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colin25 10-08-2013 09:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35608080)
:LOL: What a douche! I would have loved to have been a fly in the room to see his face when he found out he was banned. If he genuinely thought he was never wrong, he is probably still confused as to how he became banned:) Sorry mod's, that is now the last time I will mention it.
Back on topic, those who can watch BT Sports, I recommend you watch (nope, I recommend more that you get down "The Abbey" and watch it there, if you can) the mighty Cambridge United on Sunday, as they kick off another season of disappointment and dashed hopes and probably mid-table mediocrity:(:D
You have convinced me. i will watch cambridge on Sunday. At least until Hearts vs Hibs kicks off (so for 5 minutes :D)

andy_m 10-08-2013 13:25
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Obviously next Saturday is free, and Palace are playing on Sunday so I won't be able to watch any of the televised games, but after that I'm seriously considering adding Sky Sports to my package - 138 Premier League games is really good, and to be honest, I don't think the BBC are doing a good job with their f1 highlights programmes on the weekends that they don't have full race coverage. Has anyone managed a decent deal off the back of losing ESPN?

nstokes 10-08-2013 13:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35608153)
Obviously next Saturday is free, and Palace are playing on Sunday so I won't be able to watch any of the televised games, but after that I'm seriously considering adding Sky Sports to my package - 138 Premier League games is really good, and to be honest, I don't think the BBC are doing a good job with their f1 highlights programmes on the weekends that they don't have full race coverage. Has anyone managed a decent deal off the back of losing ESPN?
You sure its 138, i thought it was 116?

denphone 10-08-2013 13:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35608154)
You sure its 138, i thought it was 116?
Its 116.

Dave42 10-08-2013 13:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35608154)
You sure its 138, i thought it was 116?
yes it 116 on sky sports and 38 on bt sport

andy_m 10-08-2013 13:35
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35608154)
You sure its 138, i thought it was 116?
Correct! My bad. But even so, 116 live games coupled with the majority of top picks and the ability to choose when BT take their top picks, meaning Sky effectively have all the top picks AND all f1 races live means Sky Sports is looking increasingly attractive to me.

Jameseh 10-08-2013 13:50
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As good as it is, its still £32.75 in HD (well not the F1, Tennis, News, WWE, minor golf, some rugby, etc), and a price increase supposedly incoming.

andy_m 10-08-2013 14:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35608165)
As good as it is, its still £32.75 in HD (well not the F1, Tennis, News, WWE, minor golf, some rugby, etc), and a price increase supposedly incoming.
That's what's putting me off, to be honest, and why I was asking if anybody had bagged themselves a deal with Virgin after the loss of ESPN.

Arthurgray50@blu 10-08-2013 15:17
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Someone has said on this forum, that someone has found out that VM are testing BT Sports. How do we know that.

Gavin-D 10-08-2013 15:33
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First sky were offering BT Sport free for a year if VM customers switched now BT are offering a £100 Sainsburys gift card if you switch this offer runs until September 5th - http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...dband/packages

With this offer I honestly can't see BT Sport coming for the forseeable future now

colin25 10-08-2013 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35608196)
First sky were offering BT Sport free for a year if VM customers switched now BT are offering a £100 Sainsburys gift card if you switch this offer runs until September 5th - http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...dband/packages

With this offer I honestly can't see BT Sport coming for the forseeable future now
They offered £100 before

unfortunately, after I had taken the £50 offer :(

Arthurgray50@blu 10-08-2013 16:18
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VM will be comitting business suicide if they dont get BT Sport on by next Saturday.

I have already said that l will switch over to Sky, l am a big football fan, and l will go anywhere if l can get all the football on my service.

I cannot understand why VM are not saying anything.

johnasimmons 10-08-2013 16:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608214)
VM will be comitting business suicide if they dont get BT Sport on by next Saturday.

I have already said that l will switch over to Sky, l am a big football fan, and l will go anywhere if l can get all the football on my service.

I cannot understand why VM are not saying anything.
From numerous comments on here, DS forum & VM forum it is hinted that BT Sport will launch on VirginMedia from 17th August... but I could be wrong!

Arthurgray50@blu 10-08-2013 16:21
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Why dont we all boycott the Sports channels on VM, and then VM will start to think about the customers - which keep the cable network alive.

I see they have taken off one ESPN channel and left just two.

colin25 10-08-2013 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608217)
Why dont we all boycott the Sports channels on VM, and then VM will start to think about the customers - which keep the cable network alive.

I see they have taken off one ESPN channel and left just two.
You have my support Arthur, I will not take any channels that have sport from Virgin, never never Never! :D

nstokes 10-08-2013 16:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35608229)
You have my support Arthur, I will not take any channels that have sport from Virgin, never never Never! :D
Same here. Ill just get my channels from Sky instead, who needs that company called Virgin Media :D:D

Henkesghost 10-08-2013 16:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35608231)
Same here. Ill just get my channels from Sky instead, who needs that company called Virgin Media :D:D
To be honest mate, that was funny about 500 posts ago. We get it you've got Sky and BT Sport. Move on its getting old

Anypermitedroute 10-08-2013 16:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608217)
Why dont we all boycott the Sports channels on VM, and then VM will start to think about the customers - which keep the cable network alive.

I see they have taken off one ESPN channel and left just two.
I think VM make a loss for each sale of skysports (or at least make no money; this is what the smallworld owner stated) so you be doing them a favour

Besides which why boycotting a sky product would that send a message to VM, BT are withholding (allegedly before we start the same debate, for the purpose of this statement working with the assumption of a pro VM stance :))

denphone 10-08-2013 17:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35608231)
Same here. Ill just get my channels from Sky instead, who needs that company called Virgin Media :D:D
Oh dear its becoming ad nauseam hearing the same party line again and again and again.:nono::naughty:

nstokes 10-08-2013 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35608241)
Oh dear its becoming ad nauseam hearing the same party line again and again and again.:rolleyes:
Ill start re-read my book of jokes that Colin got me for xmas :D

colin25 10-08-2013 17:13
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1-0 celtic vs liverpool

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35608241)
Oh dear its becoming ad nauseam hearing the same party line again and again and again.:nono::naughty:
Don't worry Den, new lines coming soon :D

Dave42 10-08-2013 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608214)
VM will be comitting business suicide if they dont get BT Sport on by next Saturday.

I have already said that l will switch over to Sky, l am a big football fan, and l will go anywhere if l can get all the football on my service.

I cannot understand why VM are not saying anything.
Arthur both VM and BT are on stock market they cant say anything to a deal is done or it totally collapses so what do you expect VM to say when they cant say anything and you have all ready said you not pay £12PM for bt sport which is the price on sky or £15PM if you want HD and you got to pay directly to bt for it on sky

Arthurgray50@blu 10-08-2013 18:31
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Dave42, my whole point is that VM must know if there is going to be a deal or not, the suicide is that before 17th August, many subscribers would already have left.

All VM are doing is 'playing' the subscribers of VM and think we are stupid.

Dave42 10-08-2013 18:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608284)
Dave42, my whole point is that VM must know if there is going to be a deal or not, the suicide is that before 17th August, many subscribers would already have left.

All VM are doing is 'playing' the subscribers of VM and think we are stupid.
well Arthur they still talking so good sign there is still a good chance

OLD BOY 10-08-2013 20:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608284)
Dave42, my whole point is that VM must know if there is going to be a deal or not, the suicide is that before 17th August, many subscribers would already have left.

All VM are doing is 'playing' the subscribers of VM and think we are stupid.
Arthur, why can you not understand that this is like a game of poker? VM are out for the best deal - how do you suppose they can do that if they give away their every move, tactic, strategy. Please just understand that negotiations are secret and no matter how important you think you are as a customer, you are not going to get any accurate information until the deal is done. If you cannot be patient, maybe you should consider moving over to the dark side!

harry_hitch 10-08-2013 22:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35608235)
To be honest mate, that was funny about 500 posts ago. We get it you've got Sky and BT Sport. Move on its getting old
:clap:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35608082)
You have convinced me. i will watch cambridge on Sunday. At least until Hearts vs Hibs kicks off (so for 5 minutes :D)
Good man, 5 mins is you will probably be able to stomach. I love 'em to bits and can not afford to pay £15 every home game, let alone the extra for away games. However, when I do see them, the standard of football from both teams is less than great:(
Still, at least there is some amount of integrity in that level of football, unlike the cry baby, primadonna, millionaires of the premier league!!

muppetman11 10-08-2013 22:30
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Anyone know if this will be picked up in the UK ? It seems Fox Sports has agreed a broadcast deal.

http://www.fiaformulae.com/news/Fox-...lti-media-deal

andy_m 10-08-2013 23:00
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I should hope so - London is a host city.

colin25 11-08-2013 07:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35608337)
:clap:

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Good man, 5 mins is you will probably be able to stomach. I love 'em to bits and can not afford to pay £15 every home game, let alone the extra for away games. However, when I do see them, the standard of football from both teams is less than great:(
Still, at least there is some amount of integrity in that level of football, unlike the cry baby, primadonna, millionaires of the premier league!!
You must not watch much of scottish football, will I tell the difference? :)

harry_hitch 11-08-2013 10:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35608382)
You must not watch much of scottish football, will I tell the difference? :)
:LOL: Possibly not:)

Arthurgray50@blu 11-08-2013 12:11
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What l am saying regarding BT Sport is that, VM must know that there are customers seriously considering moving due to lack of info on the channels.

At the moment we have had nothing from VM to stop this from happening, all they say is that they are 'in talk' with BT over this.

Yes, people are saying that they are saying nothing, but what about the paying customer, THATS US.

This to me is extremely bad business from a major company. If l ran a company l would be putting out news to stop customers 'going to the other side'. You cannot run a company like that.

VM must know either way, IF they are near to signing deals or not - at the end of the day - ITS US, that will end up paying for it.

One more week to go, before l switch on Freesat for BT Sport.

Dave42 11-08-2013 12:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608484)
What l am saying regarding BT Sport is that, VM must know that there are customers seriously considering moving due to lack of info on the channels.

At the moment we have had nothing from VM to stop this from happening, all they say is that they are 'in talk' with BT over this.

Yes, people are saying that they are saying nothing, but what about the paying customer, THATS US.

This to me is extremely bad business from a major company. If l ran a company l would be putting out news to stop customers 'going to the other side'. You cannot run a company like that.

VM must know either way, IF they are near to signing deals or not - at the end of the day - ITS US, that will end up paying for it.

One more week to go, before l switch on Freesat for BT Sport.
Arthur yes I know it frustrating but since both BT and VM are on stock maket they got to obey stock market rules and not allowed to say anything to a deal is done or totally collapses they cant break the rules I think it gonna be very good outcome before premier league kicks off next Saturday just have to have some patience till then

OLD BOY 11-08-2013 12:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608484)
What l am saying regarding BT Sport is that, VM must know that there are customers seriously considering moving due to lack of info on the channels.

At the moment we have had nothing from VM to stop this from happening, all they say is that they are 'in talk' with BT over this.

Yes, people are saying that they are saying nothing, but what about the paying customer, THATS US.

This to me is extremely bad business from a major company. If l ran a company l would be putting out news to stop customers 'going to the other side'. You cannot run a company like that.

VM must know either way, IF they are near to signing deals or not - at the end of the day - ITS US, that will end up paying for it.

One more week to go, before l switch on Freesat for BT Sport.
But Virgin Media have told us the position. It has not changed.

They cannot leak details of confidential discussions, can they?

Arthurgray50@blu 11-08-2013 12:35
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Thanks for that, but its a strange way to run a business.

Hugh 11-08-2013 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608484)
What l am saying regarding BT Sport is that, VM must know that there are customers seriously considering moving due to lack of info on the channels.

At the moment we have had nothing from VM to stop this from happening, all they say is that they are 'in talk' with BT over this.

Yes, people are saying that they are saying nothing, but what about the paying customer, THATS US.

This to me is extremely bad business from a major company. If l ran a company l would be putting out news to stop customers 'going to the other side'. You cannot run a company like that.

VM must know either way, IF they are near to signing deals or not - at the end of the day - ITS US, that will end up paying for it.

One more week to go, before l switch on Freesat for BT Sport.
Do you still have your old Sky box?

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d...o-get-bt-sport
Quote:
You need to have Freesat from Sky to order BT Sport on Freesat. This means you'll need a Sky box and Sky dish if you want to watch BT Sport on the Sky Digital Satellite Platform.
That is the only way you will get it on Freesat (from Sky), and you will still have to pay £12 per month, which I am sure you stated previously you would not do, as it was too expensive....

Quote:
Originally posted by Arthurgray50@blu
Firstly let me say that, l have always said that IF BT Sport arrived on VM, l would have no objections in paying extra for it, BUT not £12.00 per month - that is too expensive for three channels.

Dave42 11-08-2013 12:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608499)
Thanks for that, but its a strange way to run a business.
they got to obey the laws of stock market Arthur all companies do they be news by next weekend just got to wait little longer

denphone 11-08-2013 12:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608499)
Thanks for that, but its a strange way to run a business.
That's how all major companies on the stock market work Arthur and even your beloved Spurs have to announce things on the stock market before they tell the whole wide world.

OLD BOY 11-08-2013 12:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608499)
Thanks for that, but its a strange way to run a business.
It's how business works, old chap. You're just looking at this from your own point of view as a customer. If you were in these negotiations on behalf of VM, you would also have no choice but to keep schtum until a deal was done.

colin25 11-08-2013 12:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35608514)
It's how business works, old chap. You're just looking at this from your own point of view as a customer. If you were in these negotiations on behalf of VM, you would also have no choice but to keep schtum until a deal was done.
Yes. Imagine it was your own wallet, and you weren't a rich son of a female dog. You would be careful too :D

Arthurgray50@blu 11-08-2013 13:00
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Good point to bring up, Members are saying that VM are testing the BT channels on the network, how do we know that.

I didn't think you could find that out on cable tv.

johnasimmons 11-08-2013 13:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608531)
Good point to bring up, Members are saying that VM are testing the BT channels on the network, how do we know that.

I didn't think you could find that out on cable tv.
I might be wrong but I believe you can if you connect your cable box to a pc :)

RobboEdin 11-08-2013 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35608536)
I might be wrong but I believe you can if you connect your cable box to a pc :)
You are wrong.

The only way to do this is against the Ts&Cs of the Virgin Media contract as it requires a non-Virgin Media-supplied box to be connected to the cable feed.

colin25 11-08-2013 17:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35608613)
You are wrong.

The only way to do this is against the Ts&Cs of the Virgin Media contract as it requires a non-Virgin Media-supplied box to be connected to the cable feed.
That does not make him wrong. It merely breaks Virgin's Ts&Cs, him saying it is not wrong.

johnasimmons 11-08-2013 17:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35608613)
You are wrong.

The only way to do this is against the Ts&Cs of the Virgin Media contract as it requires a non-Virgin Media-supplied box to be connected to the cable feed.
Thanks, I wasn't sure

tvtimes 12-08-2013 13:42
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BT Sport passes the one million mark...
http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...15f416117c8%7d
Quite impressive, they're doing quite well without Virgin.

alwaysabear 12-08-2013 13:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35608814)
BT Sport passes the one million mark...
http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...15f416117c8%7d
Quite impressive, they're doing quite well without Virgin.
Over 500,000 are existing BT customers who are getting it for free anyway.

tvtimes 12-08-2013 13:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35608817)
Over 500,000 are existing BT customers who are getting it for free anyway.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that their intention?

Chad 12-08-2013 13:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35608817)
Over 500,000 are existing BT customers who are getting it for free anyway.
To be fair BT do acknowledge that the figure includes those who get the service for free.

Must admit I'm impressed. It was just a few weeks ago they confirmed 500,000 had the channel.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/25/bt-spo...ports-3899255/

Unless I'm reading this wrongly that means BT Sports have added another 500,000 customers / subscribers in 3 weeks. As the season draws ever closer, I can see the same signing up again prior to Saturday!

alwaysabear 12-08-2013 14:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608820)
To be fair BT do acknowledge that the figure includes those who get the service for free.

Must admit I'm impressed. It was just a few weeks ago they confirmed 500,000 had the channel.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/25/bt-spo...ports-3899255/

Unless I'm reading this wrongly that means BT Sports have added another 500,000 customers / subscribers in 3 weeks.
That does seem strange. Then again some people will do anything to watch some footie.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35608819)
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that their intention?
Its a lot of money to spend to keep existing customers.

Dave42 12-08-2013 14:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35608821)
That does seem strange. Then again some people will do anything to watch some footie.

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Its a lot of money to spend to keep existing customers.
exactly and bt shareholders wont be happy spending all that money for no return

Gunslinger 12-08-2013 14:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35608814)
BT Sport passes the one million mark...
http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...15f416117c8%7d
Quite impressive, they're doing quite well without Virgin.
Doesn't say exactly how many of those are new, paying customers.

BT Broadband has around 6.5 million existing customers, it's a fair bet quite a few of those will be signing up for 'free' BT Sports.

Sky is currently running a free broadband offer for Sky Sports customers.

It will be interesting to see how all this pans out - it seems somewhat high risk from BT's point of view unless they can sign up lots of NEW, paying customers. Otherwise a very, very expensive way to retain their existing customer base.

Chad 12-08-2013 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35608823)
exactly and bt shareholders wont be happy spending all that money for no return
I think they will make a return. It has been estimated that BT have spent, or will spend in total, £1.3 billion in terms of sports rights and channel set up.

To cover their outlay BT will need to bring in £325,000,000 per year for the next 4 years, which works out at £27,083,333 per month. Big figures but when you break them down further that only equates to 1,800,000 subscribers paying £15.00 per month.

Taking into consideration advertising revenue, commercial business deals, BT Sports in Ireland, international distribution of some of their programming and the £15.00 connection fee for new customers, it’s very likely BT will see a return.

telegramsam 12-08-2013 15:08
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Something else to remember too is that BT will have to continue to invest money as and when contracts are up for renewal regarding showing rugby,footy etc. I know they may not be for a few years but you can guarantee Sky will come out fighting when contracts are up for renewal.

Chad 12-08-2013 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35608849)
Something else to remember too is that BT will have to continue to invest money as and when contracts are up for renewal regarding showing rugby,footy etc. I know they may not be for a few years but you can guarantee Sky will come out fighting when contracts are up for renewal.
The Champions League rights are up for renewal in the next couple of months. Imagine if BT wrestled them away from SKY.

Anypermitedroute 12-08-2013 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608864)
The Champions League rights are up for renewal in the next couple of months. Imagine if BT wrestled them away from SKY.
American football is my worry, BT must see that as a prime target

denphone 12-08-2013 15:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608864)
The Champions League rights are up for renewal in the next couple of months. Imagine if BT wrestled them away from SKY.
That won't happen in my humble opinion.

telegramsam 12-08-2013 15:44
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I can`t see BT getting champion league off sky but maybe off ITV?

Gunslinger 12-08-2013 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608843)
Big figures but when you break them down further that only equates to 1,800,000 subscribers paying £15.00 per month.
That is 1.8 million NEW customers (or current customers whom might otherwise have switched) - over and above the 6.5 million they already have, who get it for free.

It is not clear where those are coming from - Sky and Virgin each have around 4-5 million BB customers. Either or both are likely to respond aggressively if faced with losing between 20% and 30% of their existing BB customer base.

denphone 12-08-2013 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35608869)
I can`t see BT getting champion league off sky but maybe off ITV?
From what l know some CL football has to be free to air Tele.

telegramsam 12-08-2013 16:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35608872)
From what l know some CL football has to be free to air Tele.
Ok didn`t know that. So presumedly ITV could only compete for the right to show them against another free-to-air channel such as BBC or Channel five?

muppetman11 12-08-2013 16:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608864)
The Champions League rights are up for renewal in the next couple of months. Imagine if BT wrestled them away from SKY.
To be fair I hope they both keep bidding and paying exuberant amounts for sport it may actually make the British public stand up and realise things are getting out of control with sports sub's.

denphone 12-08-2013 17:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35608895)
To be fair I hope they both keep bidding and paying exuberant amounts for sport it may actually make the British public stand up and realise things are getting out of control with sports sub's.
l agree with your sentiment totally but a considerable part of the public seem quite content on paying for their premium sport content MM.

tvtimes 12-08-2013 17:06
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I think BT will 100% be aggressively bidding for the champions league when it comes about to bid for it. It is the second most lucrative rights second only to the Premier League.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35608867)
American football is my worry, BT must see that as a prime target
It's very niche. I can't see BT spending big bucks on it, but I am sure they will want it to go with the rest of their US rights.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35608821)
That does seem strange. Then again some people will do anything to watch some footie.

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Its a lot of money to spend to keep existing customers.
What would they rather? Spend the money and keep their customers, or not spend the money and lose that revenue entirely? They have to do something to reduce the losses.

muppetman11 12-08-2013 17:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35608910)
l agree with your sentiment totally but a considerable part of the public seem quite content on paying for their premium sport content MM.
I'm not telling people they shouldn't Den , my premiums have now gone the money wasn't the issue it was deciding whether the premium represented value for money and sadly in our house it no longer did likewise I won't be bothering with BT Sport.

Jameseh 12-08-2013 17:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35608867)
American football is my worry, BT must see that as a prime target
I bet they'll get the (Monday?) night games from BBC Sport, as they'll have £0 left in the kitty after the FA Cup.

tvtimes 12-08-2013 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35608920)
I bet they'll get the (Monday?) night games from BBC Sport, as they'll have £0 left in the kitty after the FA Cup.
That's bull, BT are not Setanta and the FA cup rights do not cost that much as Sky aren't that bothered about them.

Chad 12-08-2013 17:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35608869)
I can`t see BT getting champion league off sky but maybe off ITV?
Maybe a joint bid by ITV and BT Sports?

colin25 12-08-2013 17:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608926)
Maybe a joint bid by ITV and BT Sports?
I like that idea

muppetman11 12-08-2013 17:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608820)
To be fair BT do acknowledge that the figure includes those who get the service for free.

Must admit I'm impressed. It was just a few weeks ago they confirmed 500,000 had the channel.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/25/bt-spo...ports-3899255/

Unless I'm reading this wrongly that means BT Sports have added another 500,000 customers / subscribers in 3 weeks. As the season draws ever closer, I can see the same signing up again prior to Saturday!
This was interesting

Quote:
"These are early days but we plan to make the most of this initial surge in demand as fans get excited about the football season ahead. Huge numbers of customers are signing up every day, which is testament to how fresh, vibrant and exciting the channels are. The market needed a new entrant to shake things up and that is precisely what we are doing.
http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/s...15f416117c8%7d

tvtimes 12-08-2013 17:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608926)
Maybe a joint bid by ITV and BT Sports?
Did they do that with the BBC for the FA cup or did both just bid the most and the FA shared the rights?
I can ITV and BT Sport collectively bidding. It would make them a lot stronger that's for sure but Sky has a big stake in ITV.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35608929)
That quote suggests they have an awful lot of new customers. But are they broadband customers as well or just subscribing to the sport standalone? Either way I suppose those customers they could cross sell to as they now have their details. Sky won't be happy about that!

DaMac 12-08-2013 18:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35608921)
That's bull, BT are not Setanta and the FA cup rights do not cost that much as Sky aren't that bothered about them.
The reason they don't cost that much is because some of the matches have to be fta, just like the champions league, which means itv or bbc only have to outbid each other, and sky or ESPN then only have to match a percentage of that bid.

Arthurgray50@blu 12-08-2013 18:23
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As we are paying for the Sports package that includes ESPN. And we are not getting the channels. Can we ask for a discount for the loss of them - even though they are free.

OLD BOY 12-08-2013 18:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35608956)
As we are paying for the Sports package that includes ESPN. And we are not getting the channels. Can we ask for a discount for the loss of them - even though they are free.
You can ask, Arthur, but you won't get it. The price didn't go up when Setanta was added to the XL package, so why would there be any expectation of a refund when it's taken off?

tvtimes 12-08-2013 19:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35608962)
You can ask, Arthur, but you won't get it. The price didn't go up when Setanta was added to the XL package, so why would there be any expectation of a refund when it's taken off?
This, very true!:) I thought you would have known that Arthur to be honest matey.

alwaysabear 12-08-2013 20:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35608920)
I bet they'll get the (Monday?) night games from BBC Sport, as they'll have £0 left in the kitty after the FA Cup.
Its an interesting one MNF does not have a large TV audience in the UK because of the 1.30am ko . The choices of games on MNF are not that great this season so I could see it staying free to air.

nstokes 12-08-2013 20:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35608864)
The Champions League rights are up for renewal in the next couple of months. Imagine if BT wrestled them away from SKY.
That would be good but wont happen

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35608868)
That won't happen in my humble opinion.
I agree

Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35608869)
I can`t see BT getting champion league off sky but maybe off ITV?
Me ethier

Jameseh 12-08-2013 21:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35608921)
That's bull, BT are not Setanta and the FA cup rights do not cost that much as Sky aren't that bothered about them.
I'm talking about NFL Monday Night games, as in American Football.

BBC Sport spent basically all their budget on the upcoming FA Cup rights deal, so they won't bother defending their NFL coverage (if/when BT bid for it) which was on the Red Button anyway.

Dave42 12-08-2013 21:37
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Quote:
BT passes 1 million subscriber mark for sports channels

LONDON | Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:13pm BST

(Reuters) - More than 1 million households have signed up to take the new sports service from Britain's telecom operator BT (BT.L) in what it said was an endorsement of the strategy to use pay-TV to protect its traditional business.

The former telecoms monopoly will go head-to-head with the Rupert Murdoch-founded BSkyB (BSY.L) this weekend with the start of the new English Premier League after it shocked the industry by winning the rights to premium sports last year.

The 168-year-old BT has agreed to pay 246 million pounds per season to show 38 live football matches, putting it up against the dominant pay-TV group BSkyB which has the rights to 116 games per season.

As part of its plan to defend its key broadband business, BT will supply the new sports channels free to its existing broadband customers who renew their contracts or to those who sign up as new customers for BT broadband.

The more than 1 million households it has added since it started taking orders in May is made up of existing and new broadband customers, and those BSkyB satellite customers who are paying extra to also take BT channels. It did not break out how many new broadband customers it has attracted.

BT said in July that more than 500,000 households had signed up to the new sports service, which indicates the rate of people joining has accelerated ahead of the start of the new football season.

By comparison, BSkyB has 10.4 million TV subscribers, however that includes those on basic TV packages as well as Sky Sports.

"We always said that BT Sport would help us retain and attract broadband customers and that is proving to be the case," said John Petter, the managing director of the BT consumer division. "We are rewarding our customers for their loyalty and the strategy is working."

Separately, a person familiar with the situation said the group was close to agreeing a wholesale deal with cable operator Virgin Media (LBTYA.O). Any wholesale deal would increase the number of viewers watching the channels, and allow BT to charge more to advertisers.

(Reporting by Kate Holton; Editing by Erica Billingham)
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...97B0KG20130812

Mod Edit - post edited to make it more readable.....

paul nolan 12-08-2013 21:57
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"More than a million households are ready and equipped to enjoy the start of the Barclays Premier League on BT Sport this coming weekend."

How many people are like my mate. Who is on BT Infinity, and therefore "ready and equipped", but has less than zero interest in watching BT Sport on his TV or his computer?

andy_m 12-08-2013 22:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35609085)
"More than a million households are ready and equipped to enjoy the start of the Barclays Premier League on BT Sport this coming weekend."

How many people are like my mate. Who is on BT Infinity, and therefore "ready and equipped", but has less than zero interest in watching BT Sport on his TV or his computer?
Ah, good spot!

Jameseh 12-08-2013 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35609085)
"More than a million households are ready and equipped to enjoy the start of the Barclays Premier League on BT Sport this coming weekend."

How many people are like my mate. Who is on BT Infinity, and therefore "ready and equipped", but has less than zero interest in watching BT Sport on his TV or his computer?
None, because existing customers had to re-contract to get BT Sport so he won't have and therefore won't have access to it.

paul nolan 12-08-2013 22:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35609090)
None, because existing customers had to re-contract to get BT Sport so he won't have and therefore won't have access to it.
"Ready and Equipped": That choice of wording in a press release HEAVILY implies they have also include people who have not chosen to re-contract for the channel.

Good old marketing propaganda, worded by people who are VERY well paid manipulate thoughts with words.

Chad 12-08-2013 23:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35609017)
Its an interesting one MNF does not have a large TV audience in the UK because of the 1.30am ko . The choices of games on MNF are not that great this season so I could see it staying free to air.
This might interest you:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/...0803-1839a.mp3

This was broadcast 9 days ago on BBC Radio Scotland. Listen from 3:51 to 4:24. Whilst it's a BBC production one of the presenters, Stuart Cosgrove, also works as Channel 4's director of creative diversity. Looks like NFL could be on the BBC or Channel 4 if the last comment made at 4:24 is serious.

harry_hitch 12-08-2013 23:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunslinger (Post 35608833)
Doesn't say exactly how many of those are new, paying customers.

BT Broadband has around 6.5 million existing customers, it's a fair bet quite a few of those will be signing up for 'free' BT Sports.

Sky is currently running a free broadband offer for Sky Sports customers.

It will be interesting to see how all this pans out - it seems somewhat high risk from BT's point of view unless they can sign up lots of NEW, paying customers. Otherwise a very, very expensive way to retain their existing customer base.
Getting a guaranteed amount from VM each month will help, as will the increased advertising revenues:)
Also, now BT have details of many new customers, they will be able to try and sell phone packages to BB subscribers and phone and BB packages to paying BT Sports customers.
I believe they will make a good return from this investment.

Jameseh 12-08-2013 23:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35609095)
"Ready and Equipped": That choice of wording in a press release HEAVILY implies they have also include people who have not chosen to re-contract for the channel.

Good old marketing propaganda, worded by people who are VERY well paid manipulate thoughts with words.
So you're saying BT actively promote their entire broadband userbase as just "over a million"?

Chad 12-08-2013 23:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35609095)
"Ready and Equipped": That choice of wording in a press release HEAVILY implies they have also include people who have not chosen to re-contract for the channel.

Good old marketing propaganda, worded by people who are VERY well paid manipulate thoughts with words.
From the press release:

"The million total includes satellite TV customers – both free and paying – as well as customers who are watching via BT TV. There is a mix of existing BT broadband customers – who have re-contracted their broadband for at least twelve months – and new broadband customers who have been attracted by BT Sport."

Have BT made BT Sports automatically available to their customers who fit the criteria to get it free, or do the customers have to opt in to get access? For example on SKY SKY 3D is included in my package, but I couldn't access the channel until I confirmed with SKY that I wanted to opt in.

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Managed to answer my own question:

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d...rt/c/6401,6611

"The first step is to make sure you've ordered BT Sport. BT Sport is free for BT Broadband customers, but you don't get it automatically. You need to order BT Sport by visiting www.bt.com/sport.

If you're a BT Broadband customer and you just want to watch BT Sport online or via the app (not via TV), you need to activate it first. To activate, just log in to My BT. Scroll down, click on 'BT Sport' and follow the online instructions."

So people will only be ready and equipped to watch the channel, on the BT platform, if they have opted in.

Lostlam 12-08-2013 23:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35609117)
From the press release:

"The million total includes satellite TV customers – both free and paying – as well as customers who are watching via BT TV. There is a mix of existing BT broadband customers – who have re-contracted their broadband for at least twelve months – and new broadband customers who have been attracted by BT Sport."

Have BT made BT Sports automatically available to their customers who fit the criteria to get it free, or do the customers have to opt in to get access? For example on SKY SKY 3D is included in my package, but I couldn't access the channel until I confirmed with SKY that I wanted to opt in.

---------- Post added at 23:44 ---------- Previous post was at 23:38 ----------

Managed to answer my own question:

http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/d...rt/c/6401,6611

"The first step is to make sure you've ordered BT Sport. BT Sport is free for BT Broadband customers, but you don't get it automatically. You need to order BT Sport by visiting www.bt.com/sport.

If you're a BT Broadband customer and you just want to watch BT Sport online or via the app (not via TV), you need to activate it first. To activate, just log in to My BT. Scroll down, click on 'BT Sport' and follow the online instructions."

So people will only be ready and equipped to watch the channel, on the BT platform, if they have opted in.
Getting BT Sports activated was a PROPER hassle. It isn't as plain sailing as it seems, but nothing normally is though.

Gunslinger 12-08-2013 23:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35609095)
"Ready and Equipped": That choice of wording in a press release HEAVILY implies they have also include people who have not chosen to re-contract for the channel.

Good old marketing propaganda, worded by people who are VERY well paid manipulate thoughts with words.
BT have over 6.5 million broadband customers, so I think you are reading something into this that is not there. Take up of 1 million is still only about 15% of this total - even if it doubles between now and the weekend, it would still only be about 30% of BT's BB customer base.

What is missing from this and other reports, is what proportion of that 1 million are NEW customers, and hence bringing in additional revenue to offset BT's £1+ billion investment in this service.

andy_m 13-08-2013 07:24
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But many of their broadband customers won't be able (ie. ready and equipped) to get the channel. I don't live in an infinity area, my Bt broadband speed would be too slow.

---------- Post added at 07:24 ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 ----------

Also, consider the meaning of "hd ready". I think Paul is on to something here.

kop32 13-08-2013 08:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35609119)
Getting BT Sports activated was a PROPER hassle. It isn't as plain sailing as it seems, but nothing normally is though.
I found it very easy,BT emailed me with the offer,I filled in my Sky viewing card number and when the launch date arrived it was there,the only gripe I have is you can only have it on one box and I have multi-room,ah well....

OLD BOY 13-08-2013 12:23
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A little development you may be interested in. ESPN is shown on television magazines next week including TV and Satellite Week as being on Virgin, channel no 529 (530 HD) from Saturday. It was not listed for Virgin Media in the current magazines.

BT Sport is still not showing channel numbers for Virgin Media.

Make of that what you will!:)

johnasimmons 13-08-2013 12:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35609201)
A little development you may be interested in. ESPN is shown on television magazines next week including TV and Satellite Week as being on Virgin, channel no 529 (530 HD) from Saturday. It was not listed for Virgin Media in the current magazines.

BT Sport is still not showing channel numbers for Virgin Media.

Make of that what you will!:)
In last weeks TV & Satellite Week the Virgin numbers for ESPN HD and SD had been removed... It is rumoured that BT Sport will be on channels 547-550 :)

OLD BOY 13-08-2013 12:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35609205)
In last weeks TV & Satellite Week the Virgin numbers for ESPN HD and SD had been removed...
I know, so I think it is significant. It's also shown in Radio Times. Didn't look at the other magazines, though

denphone 13-08-2013 12:37
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BT's great broadband scam.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...broadband-scam

Gavin-D 13-08-2013 14:17
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Radio Times has BT sport 1 / HD and BT Sport 2 / HD listed under virgin media with shows on today even though it isn't broadcasting on VM

nstokes 13-08-2013 14:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35609253)
Radio Times has BT sport 1 / HD and BT Sport 2 / HD listed under virgin media with shows on today even though it isn't broadcasting on VM
That to me then show its a typo

denphone 13-08-2013 14:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35609260)
That to me then show its a typo
Well we shall know in the next few days dear chap and the force of good suggest that young Mr Stokes has a pledge to fulfil come the weekend.:Yes:

MatthewEastaugh 13-08-2013 15:41
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I think Premier Sports don't like Virgin Media that much.

1st August
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/...53893635833856
Quote:
Feel free to also throw in a request for @PremierSportsTV when asking @virginmedia where @BTSport is! It has only been 3 years for us...
8th August
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/...61772620136451
Quote:
@Rigby7000 @virginmedia they are umming and ahhing as usual. To busy dealing with @BTSport i think. We have only waited 3 years and 4 days..
Today:
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/...92796538847232
Quote:
@LittleWayneB @TheTanyaAttack BT Sport will have more customers than Virgin XL in a matter of weeks.
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/...93115935113216
Quote:
@AnguusBeeith don't think they add new sports channels now. Just remove them @virginmedia

OLD BOY 13-08-2013 15:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35609260)
That to me then show its a typo
Doesn't explain why TV & Satellite Week have now re-introduced these Virgin Media channel numbers for ESPN.

I think VM have agreed what will happen for ESPN but have not yet completed the deal in respect of BT Sport.

I'm sure the whole story will come out in the end!

denphone 13-08-2013 16:32
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Rangers match fails to score with just 24,000 viewers.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ers-tv-ratings


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