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Sky Sports News say the draw is the exact same as the practice draw :(

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A need a few me thinks. That is a bad draw for ALL English clubs

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it is. real tests :D

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Nopes.

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I like both of them..quite attached :)

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I like the draw...lot of good games. Looking forward to it

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I think Arsenal can beat Bayern

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They are big games, its what the Champions League is about. None of the British clubs fans should be disappointed with that draw.

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All depends on whether the real Arsenal turns out.

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Im sure they will be alot better by Feb. Im not hopeful of our chances thou

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OptaJoe on Twitter: "Jose Mourinho has won six and lost just two of 14 previous games against Manchester United in all competitions. Apprentice. " *Gulp*

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Yeah Munich are going out. Onwards and upwards!

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My advice is never be scared of your opponents because if they see fear then you have had it before you have started.

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United will beat Real, I fancy Arsenal to slap Bayern too, Podolski will love to score a few.

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But they cant actually see me :D

I think we really need to sort out our defence issues if we have any chance of progressing

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Maybe Celtic to beat Juve as well. 3 British teams in quater finals??

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I can see real and Bayern going through. You can poke the bear, but he won't like it

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I honestly feel we can turn over Bayern. If we build on the game we played vs Reading and make signings in January I don't see why we cannot progress.

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Usmanov Ready to Take Control of Arsenal

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100330382

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Sure he is ready, Shares aren't there though.

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Ronnie to score the winner :(

Anyway this sunday sees the only day of the year I will be anti-United :D

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I thought Lady Bracwell whatever her name is was going to sell her shares to Usmanov though? And is a money laundering drug baron really the sort of person Arsenal fans want running their club? I would stop supporting them if they ever let Usmanov get 100% control of the club.

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Lady Nina sold her shares to Stan a while back.

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Welcome to my life 364 days a year :D

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I don't like Usmanov either. Ideal scenario would be the club is owned by the fans or a collection of people as it was before.

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Nice to see that a leopard never changes his spots.:D

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Dunno how I missed that, so Usmanov has no-one willing to sell him their shares then? I can't see fans willing to part with their shares to let an outsider into the club.

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The fans don't own enough anyway. It's like 2/1% belong to the fans now.

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Europa League Draws

Last 32
BATE v Fenerbahce
Inter v Cluj
Levante v Olympiacos
Zenit v Liverpool
Dynamo Kyiv v Bordeaux
Bayern Leverkusen v Benfica
Newcastle v Metalist
Stuttgart v Genk
Atletico v Rubin Kazan
Ajax v Steaua
Basel v Dnipro
Anji v Hannover
Sparta Praha v Chelsea
Monchengladbach v Lazio
Tottenham v Lyon
Napoli v Plzen

Last 16
Napoli/Plzen v BATE/Fenerbahce
Bayern Leverkusen/Benfica v Dynamo Kyiv/Bordeaux
Anji/Hannover v Newcastle/Metalist
Stuttgart/Genk v Monchengladbach/Lazio
Tottenham/Lyon v Inter/Cluj
Levante/Olympiacos v Atletico Madrid/Rubin Kazan
Basel/Dnipro v Zenit/Liverpool
Ajax/Steaua v Sparta Praha/Chelsea

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there are a few that are selling to Usmanov having successfully negotiated a price for each share. Usmanov is offering more for each share than Stan did or has.

From a business point of view and overall fee for everything... so long as Usmanov buys that 1 share that put him dead 30% is cheaper than the rest he'll be ok. What I mean by that is whatever price Usmanov pays for that 1 share that puts him dead 30% will be the price he'll have to offer for each remaining share. Basically rules state Usmanov will have to put in a bid to take over once he reaches 30% and whatever price he paid for that share that took him to 30% will be the price he'll have to offer everyone for the takeover bid.

theres enough to take him to or just over 30%.

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EDIT: Misread what you said. He can make an offer but Stan won't have to accept.

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yes you do.

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Misread what you said. Edited post. I thought you said he had to make a compulsory purchase. Effectively getting to 30% changes little for Arsenal...

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he will crank the pressure though.

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Raheem Sterling agrees new five-year contract with Liverpool

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20792252

Excellent news.

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yup.

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Darren @DarrenArsenal1
"Officially" Alisher Usmanov needs 29 more shares as of today to reach the 30% thresholding of Arsenal football club
6:53 p.m. Thu, Dec 20
https://www.twitter.com/DarrenArsena...1595179008?p=p

400+mil profit for Stan if he takes Usmanovs money. people reckon hes going to wait a few years. value is just going up.

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If Stan wanted to do it he wouldn't have to wait until Usmanov reaches 30%, he would have sold it already.

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PSG secure new commercial agreement

Paris Saint-Germain have clinched a massive deal with the Qatar Tourism Authority that will bring the Ligue 1 leaders more than €150 million over each of the next four seasons.

m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1271135&wjb

rising to 200mil plus the clauses. it was always going to happen wasnt it.

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Surely UEFA aren't going to allow that. They haven't even tried to make it reasonable.

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Didn't Man City pull a similar stunt or am I mixed up with something.

Wondering what the point of the new regulations were now. Seems pointless when it's now being exploited via shady sponsorship deals.

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Define shady.

If other teams get sponsorship...through other than strictly commercial means, is that shady?

Could possibly other teams have gotten some sponsorship that way?

Or is it the amount?

And, how would they prove it? Presume a sponsorship should only be a certain amount? Say based on fan size, turnover? Ultimately that could punish smaller clubs. And how to count fan base, purely through the gates?

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And financial fair play is spurious...it favours teams that have already built a fan base, over many yearts using whatever means

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Mario Balotelli: Man City will give striker another chance.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20811818

He's a bigger fool then l already thought he was.

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No..it is as I expect, one idiot leading another :D

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Málaga banned for a year from Champions League and Europa League for non-payment of wages

Uefa has handed Málaga a one-year ban from European club competition after the Spanish club failed to pay players wages and tax bills on time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-of-wages.html

Go get Isco Arsene!

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Always about money

If you are racist, have bad fan behaviour (and not english), nothing much happens

But god forbid if you do anything to anger the money gods.

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On BBC Sport website, they asked what goes into making the perfect footballer

Best answer so far, in my opinion
Steve Beaven on Twitter: "Skill of Messi, Touch of Messi, Pace of Messi, Personality of Messi, engine of Messi, passing of Messi, height of Crouch."

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http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...dEUcM5LGbWLZI_

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reliable source, not the author from the above piece but another says full transfer. Arsene wants to sign Villa.

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@DarrenArsenal1 saying the same. alot about youth at Malaga too

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Who is the reliable source? We've been linked to soooo many players every window :D.

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AFCAMDEN. the guy who got shut down by Arsenal.

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Ugh Twitter. I remember him as one of the 'M'Vila done deal' people. I hope it's true, Villa would be a good signing.

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Seems excessive to buy all of villa, perhaps more sense to get a few of their players. Bendeke etc. :)

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he never said it was done. Ben-whatshisface was saying it was done.

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The smart rumour mongers always leave a little wiggle room. 'Almost done', 'last details to sort out' etc. Then they can claim it fell though. It turned out that we actually had minimum contact with Rennes this summer and certainly never made a bid or a contract offer.

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well he got shut down by Arsenal so he must know something or have a decent source within the club. he made a bit of dolla selling all those signed shirts every week.

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Or he made it up. People on Twitter are mad. I would be inclined to believe it if he had a good track record but why would he be privy to certain information? We went though this last season with all the players we were meant to have signed then which didn't happen. Where did he post this new story then since he has been 'shut down'...

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could you please list all the names he said were being looked at, were close to signing or had signed.

he got shut down for releasing team news and leaking transfer news. btw he actually showed up that 'ben...' as a fake about the M'Vila transfer. please dont label everyone the same. you only believe what you want to regardless whether it comes from Arsenal or not.

you know people on twitter meet and exchange words in person.

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No. I believe information when it's from a credible source. Someone who has a track record of getting things right and those tend to be in the days leading up to the signing being announced by the club because that's when a deal is being made.

Remember last year? M'Vila being done? Van Persie's new contract being done? Vertonghen? We had this same argument last year and you mocked it then and none of that happened. Every single window you lecture me on what 'I want to believe' because I don't believe that Twitter is a dependable source and each time the deals didn't happen.

When have these people being right? Has there been a single instance of a transfer being broken on Twitter from someone who wasn't already a professional sports reporter? Podolski was broken from the German press.
But I hope Villa happens let's see.

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Perhaps somebody could start an Arsenal AFC thread, or even a 'Damien's & thenry's opinions' thread? That way we wouldn't have to trawl through loads of AFC stuff to read the latest about any other club... ;)

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whos reliable on twitter because as far as i know all reliable accounts were RT'ing a lot. btw didnt someone within the game, French guy say M'Vila was close to moving to Arsenal but screwed it with his antics and now hes in the reserves at Rennes.

Anyway nothing i say will comvince you. Vertonghen even said he was close to signing but Wenger wanted him as a DM.

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Are we up for 3 points tomorrow Cobby?

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Because all these reliable sources on Twitter have been wrong each time. To be reliable you need to have gotten things right. Until someone has a track record of breaking reliable stories then I will be interested but deeply suspicious.

EDIT: Apart from the ones who are journalists. John Cross etc.

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John Cross :LOL: says it all.

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Actually yeah, he is close to the club but gets a lot of things wrong. I was just using him as an example of a journalist. David Ornstein would be a better example. (he does have a record of getting things right).

But at the end of the day my point is more that all these people on Twitter were wrong. Each time. So that's why I don't believe them.

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Finely balanced I think, all down to confidence. Do they think a goal against United was an achievement? We've not played for 2 weeks...

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I second this idea

It's not that I'm against talk about AFC, but other news tends to get lost in amongst a load of posts that are at best just rumours

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start posting more then.

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Just for it to be lost in rumour? ;) That may be a reason why some people have stopped posting in this thread for.

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nothing has to be lost unless you let it be. i dont reply to many things in this thread. i however reply to other things, you can do that too you know.

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No it does get lost in all the rumour.

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so you want this thread to be a news feed with no chat?

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Where did I say that? No where

No, just not the constant moaning about AFC's lack of transfer activity, slagging off Wenger and the such. That's all I ask for...

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start posting some interesting stuff that we can all talk about and ill cool it.

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People do, but it gets lost in your moans, which is what I have been trying to tell you.

I am not trying to stop you all together, just start a new thread. So people can chat about actual news and their club.

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no need.

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Yes there is

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Meh, Let's just say I got it from an agent.

Demba Ba will be moving in January, Liverpool or Arsenal

Theo Walcott will be staying till the summer.


I really do hope this is just something he pulled from his backside.

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Man Utd's Ferguson rejects Giggs, Scholes & Ferdinand exit claims

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20813922

They shall not, they shall not leave

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The best thing is not to believe things until they actually happen because as we know the trusty old media have a habit of inventing stories.

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Thats why my old Denny boy i dont believe it. I will only belive it when SAF says they will leave

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Just call me den Mr Stokes.:)

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I shall call him Den :)

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it crap having to watch the match in SD grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr@sky

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Indeed getting a second rate picture for a first rate price.

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Football time,

If any of you Arsenal lot want to know how I got the information about Demba Ba's move to you or Liverpool or Theo's contract information, feel free to drop or ask for a PM. Same goes for any eager Liverpool fan :D

Arsenal should hammer these lot.

Do you not have the HD package or am I missing something here?

Anyway your game is 50/50 today, could go either way. A win would ease the nerves you have I bet, Dependent on the Wigan result, you could end up in the Relegation zone. Good luck :)

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Its on SS3 which we don't have in HD on Virgin.

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sky is withholding it even though we paying for it grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr@sky again swears big time at sky

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you aren't missing much

i have darts playing on pc at same time, and watching that more :)

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kone should have scored

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Just clicked when turning the V+HD box on downstairs :p:

Stuck with sky upstairs until March though so I am forgiven :D

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Yes Kone does not seem to be the most natural of goalscorers.

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come on Arsenal

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Have to agree for my own clubs sake, Whilst we won't technically end up in the Relegation zone at the end of today, Wigan/Sunderland/Southampton can overtake us.

Assuming we don't win our 3pm kickoff, at least one will overtake us because of Sunderland playing Southampton.

A loss for us and a draw for Sunderland would take them above us. Southampton win would send them above us etc.

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Come on Wigan

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oi stop that :mad::mad:

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this looks like a 0-0 game

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No l am independent and just hope for a good match.:nono:

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Did you mean wiggans?..He has already won sports personality..but you are still allowed to cheer him :)

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Somehow l can definitely see a goal in this game Colin.:nono::D

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me too but need Arsenal to win for my team

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Stop what? :D

A good match can still happen with a Wigan Win

No dont mean him

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Ditto :)

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I'm failing to see the point of a 10 yard wall if the referee just

1) fails to recognize what 10 yards is
2) lets them jump forward 5 yards in full view of him

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penalty to Arsenal come on Arsenal

1-0 gettinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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One suspects the Arsenals lads on here are still going to be biting their nails though.:D

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yes bet they are as long as they win today

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Southampton: Kelvin Davis, Clyne, Yoshida, Schneiderlin, Fonte (c), Lambert, Ramirez, Cork, Shaw, Mayuka, Puncheon

Subs: Boruc, Hooiveld, Steve Davis, Rodriguez, Do Prado, Richardson, de Ridder


Sunderland: Mignolet, Gardner, Rose, O'Shea (c), Cuellar, Larsson, Colback, Johnson, McClean, Sessegnon, Fletcher

Subs: Bardsley, Campbell, Wickham, McFadden, Vaughan, Bramble, Westwoood


come on Sunderland must win today

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No its not. Its actaully 0-1 :D

Wigan 0-1 Arsenal

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you know what I meant stop be arkward lol