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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17116060

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17113685

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http://manchester.craigslist.co.uk/spo/2827152434.html :D

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17117785



It should be a very interesting board meeting this thursday and there is no doubt in my mind that some things have to change even though l believe Wenger should be kept on as manager.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17121769


The question has to be asked on why did it take so long to come to his senses and make this apology.

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Brilliant news for Arsenal fans

Arsenal are ready to open fresh contract talks with winger Theo Walcott, midfielder Tomas Rosicky and striker Robin van Persie after the trio indicated they are keen to stay at the club.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...#ixzz1n3oKHSA6

Not so brilliant news for them

Arsene Wenger faces being left with just £10m to rebuild Arsenal

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ild-arsenal.do

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there was a fake article published by goal.com saying our ceo told van persie he'd have to stay. no quotes from Ivan but the famous close source quotes.

van persie will know hes now coming to an end to his career and will try squeeze every penny possible. Arsensl wont offer huge wages unless the wage bill is drastically changed... loads of players walk which needs to happen. if Arsenal cant get things right and continue to refuse to pay huge salaries regardless if money is available then van persie will leave its simple.

I hope in light of everythign gone on the sumer will see drastic changes.. flops gone etc.

Rosicky needs to be sold.. im against him getting a renewal.

theo.. hes demanding highrr wages but on what merit casn those demands be met. people are saying sell but i dont agree. i think hes been mismanaged like the rest of the squad. both sides must take responsibilty.

I think Wenger will change, this coming summer will/should transform our gaffer. Wenger probably wont go on holiday.. neithr will Ivan and whoever else needed to get thingsx done.

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The Van Persie story comes from the Telegraph. Goal.com then did their usual sourceless speculative article. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-the-club.html

I trust The Telegraph more than Goal.com.

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Very interesting article here on if it's actually wise to offer RVP a new deal: http://goonerboy.blogspot.com/2012/0...e-get-new.html

I don't agree with it completely, I think it would be too damaging. However the parallels to 2007 are interesting. Henry leaving saw the emergence of Fabregas from promising talent to one of the best players in Europe. We have a few very promising young players ready to make the step up, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Ramsey, Gibbs...

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Yes Wilshere and Chamberlain are players l believe are good enough to make the step up but l have to say that Ramsey does not convince at all and Gibbs defensively looks all at sea and on RVP l think Arsenal must hold on to him as in my mind as letting him go would be a very bad move in my opinion and would also send out a poor message about Arsenal ambitions for the future.

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/02...6908-23760448/

money is where red&white/Usmanov is...

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It seems the Arsenal Supporters Trust forgot to exclude stadium loans from FFP. So Arsenal will still meet FFP if they drop out of CL.

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what figure did you get Damien?

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https://twitter.com/#!/SwissRamble/s...87856461615104

https://twitter.com/#!/SwissRamble/s...88290005843968

This guy is a respected commentator/blogger on football finance. He has written extensively on club's financial results and the impact of FFP being one of the few, it seems, that have actually read the rules themselves.

http://swissramble.blogspot.com/

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swiss write decent stuff. problem i have is the pieces they write are too long to read. thats good news so we're back at around 50mil.. thats taking CL failureinto account. excluded and the kitty is bigger

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We'll break even plus a little bit extra if CL is excluded. CL brings it up to £50 million but that will need to include wages. RVP resigning will take a big chunk out of that.

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And a big chunk out of their goals for total as well.

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City scores within the first 30 seconds in the 2nd leg against FC Porto

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Trust me to miss that as l was out in the kitchen doing a cup of tea.:)

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shocking misses. City should be ahead by more

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They are ahead by more..now :D

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Yes it easy now at 3-0

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4-0 you mean

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yup..

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Pizarro did great on the 3rd goal.. Hopefully we should see more of his experience in the premiership games in midfield

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Christ l had just posted about a minute earlier and did not expect another so quickly.:D

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Man United are still making a lot of money, unlike Chelsea and Man City, who are draining a lot of money!

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Sorry, too expensive and poor value for money! :D

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I have a few suggestions!

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Yes they are making considerable amounts of money but they also have huge debts that need to be serviced by these profits.

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Not enough for Carlos Tévez then! :D

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Is is even legal for a football club to own shares in another football club?

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Caused by this idiot!

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Well thats for other people to decide Alan.

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so a little birdy mentioned on blogs says Stan would give Wenger 100mill this summer. question is whether its a lame lie or actually true.

a proper clear out will see players leaving for next to nothing so money will be needd for it to go ahead.

last time out Wenger said he'd give money back if given it. this time around its a little different.

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And who is that little birdy thenry as l cannot see Wenger being given £100 million to spend this summer.:)

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Matt Scott > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...enal-team.html

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So wish that so true. Don't believe it myself. :(

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ey-Barton.html

Joey Barton tweets a picture of the new England home shirt - no more blue just red and white. Hope it doesn't run in the wash else it'll all be pink.

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Its a big con in my mind as we only had the last one for eight matches and this is worse then that one by a country mile.:(:td:

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stopped buying football shirts years ago - all one big ripoff. Quite happy with my Peru national shirt bought 5 years ago when I was out there and still valid!

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Apparently England/Umbro are going to update their shirts every eighteen months from now on

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Is is really needed that The FA keeps replacing their kit!? :td:

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What players could Arsenal spend £100 million on?

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Maybe wenger will put the £100m in the bank..and only spend the interest...what can you get for £5m a year? :D

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Perhaps thenrys left leg can be bought for £5 million.:D

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Or maybe enough for his fish :D

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my third leg is not for sale. neither are my soldiers.

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I would say Hazard, M'Vila if he has had a good season, a left back and a forward. Ship out the crud. Get a back up keeper and center back if needed. Depending how many midfielders we ship out maybe something there too but hopefully we'll keep Sony, Ramsay, Wilshere, Walcott, Gervinho and Chamberlain so with Hazard there as well and Frimpong/Coqulin in the as young back ups I think we'll have more than enough depth.

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Is not Hazard considering going to your rivals Tottenham.

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It's actually quite hard to think of replacements because you don't want to stifle players coming up. Chamberlain has to play first team football, he is too good not too. Wilshere starts. Competition between Song/M'Vila would be good but you don't want to block Frimpong or Coqulin's progress in that position, alternatively you could play 2 defensive minded players with Wilshere in front and Hazard/Chamberlain on the wings. A 4 3 3 that effetively turns the two wingers into forwards like we have now:

-------------------Szcesney ---------------------------

Sagna ------- Kos ------------ Verm -------------- Gibbs

---------Song/Coqulin----------M'Vila/Frimpong-----------

------------------Wilshire/Ramsey----------------------

Hazard/Gervino---------------------Chamberlain/Walcott

-----------------------RVP----------------------------

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Well Gibbs and Sagna don't convince me defensively and Song has never impressed me as a proper defensive midfielder and my other big worry would be if RVP leaves or is injured who is going to replace him.

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Hazard link to Tottenham isnt a biggy. he'd perfr an Arsenal move.

as for incoming...
Kalou is said to be on his way from Chelsea on a free.
Sturridge from Chelsea linked but they wont sell him
joel campbell coming in from loan at french side
id still take Gourcuff off Lyons hands.. they will have to accept a cut fee unless he works wonders now
and at the euros.. thats if he gets played/selected. hes currently taking home 100k for nothing.
mvila is a dubbed superstar.. he'll want to change clubs
hazard in? wenger would like him here but with kalou if its done, campbell coming in. oxo cube.. not entirely sure
vertonghen for cover/versatile defender
gotze is a no go i think.. his dads against the move. would cost too much and dortmund are currently working on a good project which he seems to want to be a part of
theres hoilette i think on a free too.

wenger can do good business, question is if hes up for it. this summer has to see proper change.

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Interesting comments from David O'Leary here regarding Arsenals troubles.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-clearout.html

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Gotez, Suarez and Poborski are the 3 you keep getting linked with and shipping out the crud wont be easy considering the wages some of them are on.

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Well two of them can be ruled out as Suarez is going nowhere and l think Gotze will be too expensive for Arsenal to buy.

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Talk is Suarez has already signed a pre contract...

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Got any proof of that TheDaddy.:)

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Loads

http://www.givemefootball.com/premie...te-suarez-deal-


http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...-arsenal-spies

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:LOL:

relax den

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l think at the moment its just speculation and nothing more then that.

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Very relaxed here having a nice cup of tea and watching the cricket.:)

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He means a different Suarez. To avoid confusion I suggest we call this new Suarez the 'non-racist' one. Just to be clear you understand. :p:

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Been speculation since the window opened that he'd go, surprised you never saw any of the multiple stories from any number of papers, here's another from just the other day

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tran...cle867167.html

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I would love Gotez to come, I've heard of the other two but never seen them play or heard much about them. I agree shipping them out will be hard but even letting them go for free to get them off the wage bill would be good.

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Spoil sport :)

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Oh dear.:dunce::dozey::)

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Podolski never done much at Bayern and is getting a reputation for only wanting to play for his home town club, looks good for Germany though, I think he's a gamble, great left foot to, Suarez I haven't seen much of tbh.

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podolski wants 100k.. no chance

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l would not pay him more then 50k as to me he has always been over-rated.:td:

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Karel's coming out of retirement for them? :)

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Ah the former Man Utd player who never did much.:D

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Chris Samba's going to Anzhi before the Russian deadline tomorrow for massive cash, apparently.

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Following Scholes lead perhaps...

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Thats a bit of a surprise as it was always thought that he would probably join another Premiership club at the end of the season.:shocked:

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She retired before joining them...

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Yes I'm sure the tonnes of cash he'll have delivered nightly by dumper truck will more than compensate him playing in a crap league although monkey chants and bannanas are thrown (literally) in for free.

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Well heres one player on his way as Arsenal and Zenit St Petersburg agree loan deal for Arshavin.

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Not really sure what to make of this as we stand here right now under equiped but then again what was he offering. Thats 1 off the payroll anyway and fees agreed must of suited both parties ? Future fee and loan fee?

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Strange decision by Wolves today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17153404

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Steve Morgan seems to have his heart set on Curbishley so wouldn't surprise me if he's holding out until the end of the season to have another go at bringing him in.

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Not interested in a Cardiff win but I don't want to see Liverpool win either....

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Sitting on the fence springs to mind here.:D

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Or, lose lose..springs to mind..as one will have to win, personally, I favour cardiff over liverpool...but that is me :D

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Being a Spurs fan I asked a gooner at work what he thought the result would be on Sunday.

4 - 0 he said to Spurs, as Arsenal are playing carp.

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Not really, this is Wolves we're talking about. :rolleyes:
They did the same with Colin Lee in '98 when McGhee was sacked.

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Are you sure he said "carp"..that sounds fishy to me :D

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Not really, how many No 2s have been promoted to manager?

Also, considering he can't really alter the squad it makes sense for him to steady the ship until the transfer window opens.

I seem to remember Tony Parkes acting as caretaker for Blackburn on several lengthy occasions in the past.

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But did not Steve Morgan the chairman state that this is a job for a experienced manager so by this appointment he seems to have retracted from that view but all the best to Terry Connor because he is going to need it as Mick McCarthy was very popular by all accounts and did a good job with what he had at his disposal.

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Things clubs will do to keep Steve Bruce out of work...

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more on the Arshavin move. after the league away game against Sunderland where he set up Henry for the winner he was said to be working wonders in training. he didnt feature apart from for the reserves after that. he must of asked to leave and Wengers allowed it.

it doesnt make sense because as far as i can see/read.. theres no future fee agreed for a full transfer.

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And with Connor being McCarthy's former assistant there probably won't be many changes.

As for an experienced manager, I'm struggling to see who might want it, be good enough (not one of the usual journeymen who is mentioned for every vacancy), and be available.

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I don't buy that at all. It seems like an attempt to rewrite the narrative in order to increase the sense of disorder at the club. Arshavin who has been poor for over a season and a half had suddenly turned a corner just before a loan move out and Wenger, who had been giving him a lot of chances, made that loan move just on the verge of him becoming good again? Nah.

There exists now a small body of Arsenal fans with ill-intent spinning stories to put more pressure on Wenger and increase the sense of crisis. I do not believe, for example, that the Arsenal Supporters Trust 'forgot' that stadium repayments do not count towards FFP when they had the alarmest report that missing CL football would cause us to fall foul of FFP. That caused a week of stories about Arsenal being in dire straits.

Now, Arshavin who was roundly booed coming on against Manchester United, was booed when his name was read out against Villa and has been the subject of abuse from Arsenal fans all season was suddenly 'doing wonders' and nobody understands why Wenger let him go? LOL.

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i dont know. all i do know is alot of mismanagement has gone on and thats a fact.

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It maybe but Arsenal fans were screaming for Arshavin's head. They made it quite clear they wanted him gone and they made sure he knew it whenever he stepped onto the pitch. They can't very well claim to be disappointed that he left all of a sudden.

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The question now that needs to be answered is can RVP be kept at the club as its seems more and more clubs are chasing his services and he has still not put pen to paper on a new contract.

http://www.ontheminute.com/news/news.php?news=37157

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Well the pressure is certainly on Arsenal tomorrow as Chelsea reclaim 4th spot.

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Well this afternoon is certainly a watershed moment for Arsenal's season and lose today and the pressure on the board to do something will increase considerably.

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I think it doesn't matter too much. Everyone expects Arsenal to lose. It won't help matters but it won't be the watershed moment anymore than any other of the previous games were.

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Well only time will tell us that.

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Well, yes that's always the case with anything.

Gah. Arsenal all over the place so far.

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Yes a terrible start and again the defending was absolutely woeful.

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No contact at all. What a dive.

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And things have just got a lot worse as Arsenal go two down.

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I hate cheating, and bale's dive was cheating

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It is not the first time Bale has dived and he is getting quite a reputation for doing this.:(:td:

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If you look closely the keeper didnt touch him but Gibbs did clip his foot