Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226132)

V+ records what you ask (if you are lucky!) nothing more - just like a VCR. it doesnt evn realise when a new series of something you have previously recorded has started.

Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35226261)

I`ve just learnt that the hard way. I came home from work and settled down to watch Dr Who after my tea and it finshed about 4 mins early.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226274)

No offence here Andy but looking at your posts it would appear to me that you are either working for VM or TIVO , im not sure which.

Originally Posted by hedgie (Post 35226307)

Sorry but for me this just plain wrong....

Without me doing anything my V+ started recording F1 2011 all on its own.:D

Maybe its to do with the quality of the EPG guide and what you have series links set for. My V+ is much more than a VCR, perhaps a better description would be three VCR's linked to video jukebox !! No thats just plain clunky but you know what I mean;)

Still TiVo install scheduled for May....

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226312)

You mean "late" there, didn't you? ;)


Weirdly, it started on time (18:00:38 to be exact) and yet finished around 4 mins late!! :( (Hence my comment above!)


I read the same post and did not come to that conclusion. Even if he does, is he not entitled to his own opinion? Besides which, his post was hardly a "glowing report" on the product, was it?!

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226250)

Absolutely - it takes time to discover all the benefits.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226274)

No offence here Andy but looking at your posts it would appear to me that you are either working for VM or TIVO , im not sure which.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35226286)

New series of the apprentice starts a week on tuesday,on bbc 1 its aknowledged as new but on bbc1hd its not.Really wish they would sort this epg out surely its common sense if it states new on bbc1 its also new on bbc1hd

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226321)

Oh please :rolleyes:



The box does indeed have benefits.


Woah! He's admitting there are problems with the box. Doesn't sound like a company line to me! That said, has anyone from VM officially said that there are actually no problems with their new Tivo service? Nope. Not that I am aware of. You seem to be under an illusion that I want TIVO to fail which is rubbish after all competition can only ever e a good thing.


So that's personal opinion and not "company line".


Again, personal opinion. Mine is about 12% full too and no slow-down here either.


He mentions good things and bad things, so I'd say it's a "fair and balanced" post.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35226326)

Where are you seeing it not flagged as new? It's correct for me

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35226325)

He may or may not work for VM but given that there have been many positive comments about tivo from non staff why would you make that comment just because he is a positive poster. Look at the poll results on here and there are more people very happy than unhappy. As someone who is about to get tivo fitted I welcome all information about the box. That's why I asked VirginMediaPhil his opinion of the pq yesterday, because I know that despite his user name he is very unbiased. What annoys me are the ambulance chasers who are not going to get tivo in the near future but jump on any negative comments and ignore the positive. Or they say they must work for Virgin Media.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226328)

It would be pretty hard Carl for a VM employee to deny there are problems with TIVO just hunt the forums , there everywhere. Some people are just very blinkered ;)

Originally Posted by weesteev (Post 35226336)

there are not problems with tivo, there are differences to v+ that people aren't happy with but these are not problems.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226335)

More positive comments :confused: people want simple things sorting is that to much to ask :confused:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226328)

It would be pretty hard Carl for a VM employee to deny there are problems with TIVO just hunt the forums , there everywhere.

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35226342)

Read my post again. I'm saying that we shouldn't shoot people down or say they must work for Virgin Media just because they post positive comments. Again look at the poll results and explain to me why positive comments are unwelcome. Of course there are things that need to be sorted and the more people who post and complain about them the better

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35226342)

Read my post again. Where did I say more positive comments? I'm saying that we shouldn't shoot people down or say they must work for Virgin Media just because they post positive comments. Again look at the poll results and explain to me why positive comments are unwelcome. Of course there are things that need to be sorted and the more people who post and complain about them the better

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226345)

Look what ever you feel my agenda is on here I can assure you it's not to trash TIVO all I'm stating is that some of the pro TIVO camp want you to believe the product is perfect when clearly it's not.

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226350)

This is complete cobblers; unless you can prove it with links to back it up.

Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226333)

How do u set priorities? By giving it thumbs up etc?

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35226358)

I've read enough comments on here to put me off having it at the moment, whether they are faults, operational annomallys or hardware failure, you would want much better feedback from the people that are using it day in day out before you would shell out £190 + £3 a month subscription. :td:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226352)

I actually wasn't referring to you Carl :D Paranoid :D

Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226354)

Spoke to virgin TiVo team this morning they are brainstorming issues and collecting customers thoughts. They also read the forums but welcome anyone to call up and ask to speak to TiVo technical support. I gave lots of feedback most of which is posted here but I think it would be worth people ringing in and giving feedback. They said the more that give feedback the more likely things will be changed.

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226370)

Given that I have never said that "Tivo is perfect" there's no way you could have been referring to me. However, you still have no provided any evidence for your statement. Come on. It should be easy if it's been said.

Well, some people have apparently been phoned up and asked for their feedback so I was waiting for that to happen to me. But if they don't mind people callling them with feedback, I have a long list ready ;)

Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35226379)

For what it's worth, I am having no problems with my Tivo! :)

It is far superior to V+ - especially how fast you can move through the TV guide, no waiting around for data to load, skipping though days instantly, and the guide is widescreen and HD quality - I love it.

It is pretty spooky when it starts recommending programs you like to you from other stuff you have watched.

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226223)

Ahh. No experience with those shows. More of a drama/scifi man myself. No problems with the likes of Fringe or NCIS (on FX); occasionaly hiccups with Hawaii Five-0, House and NCIA:LA but nothing major.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226381)

I'm glad to hear it pal , I'm wondering if some of these many problems affecting people are network regional problems.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226375)

Read post 3212 There are no problems with TIVO

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226400)

Pretty sure that, given the context, that was supposed to be a joke. No-one could ever actually claim that Tivo was perfect. The S1 wasn't but it was damned close :)

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226385)

Does it work on Doctor Who then?

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226401)

Carl im not having a POP at you in fact if you cast your memory back I agreed you had given a fair review on the TIVO , so I'm not insinuating your claiming it to be problem free .

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226402)

Well there is only ever one season at a time on the BBC so the setting on that SL is really irrelevant. I would think that for 'Watch' a "new only" SL won't work and would require a "new and repeats".


Good :)

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Good, but you specifically mentioned that certain "pro-Tivo users" have made such claims and I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim with links to relevant posts. :)

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35226360)

Forums by their very nature will attract the negatives, so you need to make an informed decision based on your own experience of the product.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226409)

Is it just me that doesn't have the 'TiVo' logo that appears in the screenshots? It should be under the mini-TV screen but it's not there.

Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35226408)

I definitely agree with that. I was close to cancelling my installation due to reading so much negative feedback of people having problems or not liking certain things, but having had TiVo installed yesterday I can honestly say I love it. Despite the little bugs, it's head and shoulders above the V+.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35226425)

Totally agree,and believe me as you use it more it gets better :)

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226409)

Is it just me that doesn't have the 'TiVo' logo that appears in the screenshots? It should be under the mini-TV screen but it's not there.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226405)

Come on Carl I've given you one post 3212 a VM employee. Let's just let it drop now.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226449)

Is that because youcan only find one post to support your assertion? :D

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35226445)

It's not just you. It comes and goes for no obvious reason.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226461)

I thought it had finally appeared now, but it's only on the guide and not the home menus.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226455)

Not really there have been loads on here who've found glitches and been told it's them as there's no fault , I just can't really be arsed trawling posts for them , to be honest I hope your enjoying your TIVO and the sooner the problems are ironed out for people the better.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226405)

Come on Carl I've given you one post 3212 a VM employee

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226493)

But, like I said, that was obviously said in jest. Right after someone says... "no-one ever said....." and someone says it!

Right after you admit you were wrong ;)

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35225394)

Yes I have the two times I've used iPlayer, to be honest I forget about iPlayer, with it being hidden away in apps.:confused:

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Am I the only one here disappointed with Tivo?

I've had Tivo almost 2 weeks, the installer said think of Tivo as something totally different to anything that was here before, so I have done just that, but I cant help feeling disappointed and confused with a few things.

at the moment I missing Interactive, used to read news and weather every day.

I seem to be pressing buttons all the time to do simple things, and before I know it Im 6 pages deep in the menus. I know theres shortcuts but its hard enough remembering which buttons do what in different menus already.

I've put a wishlist in for Alan Sugar/The Apprentice. Will it recored the new series by itself or do I have to set a SL? I can see The Apprentice on BBC One hd listings but theres nothing to say Tivo will record it.

Typing anything is so time consuming, but in other places in the menus I can use the number keys like you do on a mobile?

I thought when you searched all TV everything available would be listed, but music videos dont appear and theres no search facility in Music OD, as my post says above the ads are bad enough.

Thumbs up only works in certain menus/pages for me and how do I get info on programmes without going deeper into the guide/menus?

I just seem to be pressing buttons all the time:confused:

My drive has got to 47% today and Tivo seems to be getting slower the more thats on it. When I got tivo installed I said to the engineer how fast Tivo was, but he said it slows down the more thats recorded on it. It appears to be correct at the moment??

I dont understand how SL works on Tivo. Ice Road Truckers recorded tonight clashing with my other recordings even though I set IRT to record on the saturday morning repeat. How do I set a SL just for the saturday episode? The V+ had no problem with this.

I've turn off suggestions today as I was getting lots of shows I've seen already in the past, nothing new for me.

In View Network Diagnostics the Port config test says "Failed"

It takes longer to change channels and when I go into different menus I lose picture and audio for a second.

And most of the sd channels are shocking, for example, euronews was so blurred and soft when I flicked through the news channels for the wedding, wont even mention SkyLivingit.

Dont get me wrong, I realise its a brand new product with loads of potential and everyone here loves it, but at the moment for me its abit of a let down.

Or am I doing something wrong? or maybe I just looked forward to Tivo too much?

I still have my V+ and Im thinking of swapping it back as the main box, as I guess its too late to send Tivo back?

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35226490)

AFAIK it's not supposed to be on the HOME screen anyway. Just on the TV Guide.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226508)

Oh, okay. Is that because TiVo supplies the guide data or something?

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226493)

But, like I said, that was obviously said in jest. Right after someone says... "no-one ever said....." and someone says it!

Right after you admit you were wrong ;)

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226508)

Oh, okay. Is that because TiVo supplies the guide data or something?

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226493)

But, like I said, that was obviously said in jest. Right after someone says... "no-one ever said....." and someone says it!

Right after you admit you were wrong ;)

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226524)

Carl whatever :D if it makes you happy , knock yourself out Your right , I'll sure I'll get over it. :confused:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226555)

Well my comment was in jest, hence the smiley, but I won't apologise for asking you to back you a comment; which you were unable to actually do.

Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35226553)

Have i just gone back 20years to school?! :shocked:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226567)

Agreed, but muppetman made a statement he has failed to back up. On it's own, not a biggie, but given the general overall critical attitude he has towards tivo, maybe it was right to ask him for evidence on this occasion?

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226567)

Agreed, but muppetman made a statement he has failed to back up. On it's own, not a biggie, but given the general overall critical attitude he has towards tivo, maybe it was right to ask him for evidence on this occasion?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226569)

This is what it is all about and that is differing opinions.

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35226502)

My mini Tv screen goes off on its own, even though its still set to "on"

I was watching a recording and pressed stop, as I'm used to doing that from having V+, and the programme "stopped" I thought this was great and thought there must of been an update to make the stop button work, but sadly realised the screen had just gone off *roll eyes

And once again had double recordings, this time The Hotel Inspector, recorded todays ep even though I had it in My Shows from mondays broadcast and is set to "New only"

I read here that some folks dont see this multiple recordings as a problem, but as I said in my other posts, the more thats on the Tivo, the slower the box gets!

My wishlist still hasnt picked up The Apprentice/Alan Sugar. Gonna have to set up a SL while I remember.

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from my post 3039

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226572)

True, but most of the people giving opinions on here now, are people using Tivo, and they can share them from actuall experience.

All forums tend to have a bias towards people complaining about about a product; people happy don't tend to post. So, people relying on forums to form their opinions, are generally getting a skewed view

Muppetman doesn't have tivo, so I'm sorry, but in my view, his opinions aren't as relevant as those who have the tivo and are posting from experience.

I can't recall anyone saying Tivo is perfect; it isn't. So where are these posts Muppetman is refering to?

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226571)

I don't need to back anything up , just read the posts on here , they speak volumes , plus I couldn't care less what you or Carl thinks.;)

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226574)

Post 3212

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35226575)

Do you think you should recall your previous statement against Carl then? Since it can't be backed-up ;)

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226572)

True, but most of the people giving opinions on here now, are people using Tivo, and they can share them from actuall experience.

All forums tend to have a bias towards people complaining about a product; people happy don't tend to post. So, people relying on forums to form their opinions, are generally getting a skewed view

Muppetman doesn't have tivo, so I'm sorry, but in my view, his opinions aren't as relevant as those who have the tivo and are posting from experience.

I can't recall anyone saying Tivo is perfect; it isn't. So where are these posts Muppetman is refering to?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35226573)

I had the same problem with hotel inspector,recorded 2 copies of wwe superstars yesterday Hd versions on series link and sd as suggested.Wierd it as not picked up the apprentice mine did completely wrong thou as sd shows as new but hd didnt,pain but had to cancel wishlist and set up sl.Epg really as to be sorted rapid its really letting tivo down

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35226586)

Thinking about it, I've had Tivo 2 weeks, and It has'nt told me or recorded a single thing from my wishlists. I have Lady Gaga wishlisted for my son, Tivo didnt even do anything about last weekends Lady Gaga day on MTV Hits.:dunce:

.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226588)

Sorry if i'm asking the obvious here, but did you set the whishlist items to record? If you don't. it will just list them, but not record them.

I've had loads of whishlist shows record.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226588)

Sorry if i'm asking the obvious here, but did you set the whishlist items to record? If you don't. it will just list them, but not record them.

I've had loads of whishlist shows record.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226572)

True, but most of the people giving opinions on here now, are people using Tivo, and they can share them from actuall experience.

All forums tend to have a bias towards people complaining about a product; people happy don't tend to post. So, people relying on forums to form their opinions, are generally getting a skewed view

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35219262)

It's a program coming soon just wondered whether the TIVO search would pick it up as its on a channel VM carry. Just really seeing how good the search is , as its out of,the 7 day range.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226580)

Nothings perfect but l have had tivo 11 days now and l am very impressed with it but of course there are bugs and little weaknesses here or there but l am sure with updates these will be ironed out.

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35226596)

Just looked in my series links and this series has been selected to record and it will record the HD version;).

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226602)

Yes I've set it up as well it looks ok , I guess we'll see.

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35226604)

I didnt set it up, if you remember it wasnt on the epg so I setup a wishlist for chicago and code as keywords. Tivo found it and set up a recording for me. This is what TiVo does best.

Regards

John.

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226595)

Absolutely!

I only joined the debate because as someone with previous experience of the way Tivo works I thought I might be able to help those getting to grips with it.

I do champion Tivo (and have done so since I started using one in 2001) as it is one of the best consumer products I have ever used. There are some things about the new box and the quality of the EPG data which could be tweeked to further improve the experience and I hope VM implement these but I do honestly believe it is in a different league to V+.

I think people should make an informed choice about whether to get Tivo based on whether the additional features it has are worth the additional cost to them.

I can't believe it has been suggested that I work for VM just because I like Tivo and would recommend it to people.

Perhaps I am part of a VM Black ops team!! :D

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226581)

Why DF are you going to recall the lies and speculation you have come up with on here , HD spending spree , red button arriving in weeks said months ago , the list goes on. Anyway that's the end I'll let you get back to your TIVO issues ;)

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35226604)

I didnt set it up, if you remember it wasnt on the epg so I setup a wishlist for chicago and code as keywords. Tivo found it and set up a recording for me. This is what TiVo does best.

Regards

John.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226572)

True, but most of the people giving opinions on here now, are people using Tivo, and they can share them from actuall experience.

All forums tend to have a bias towards people complaining about a product; people happy don't tend to post. So, people relying on forums to form their opinions, are generally getting a skewed view

Muppetman doesn't have tivo, so I'm sorry, but in my view, his opinions aren't as relevant as those who have the tivo and are posting from experience.

I can't recall anyone saying Tivo is perfect; it isn't. So where are these posts Muppetman is refering to?

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35226608)

It is rather sad isn't it. Anyway welcome to the forums and keep posting valuable information. It remains to be seen if I like tivo as much as you but I will find out this week.

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35226609)

Good point, DF you did say all those things.

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226595)

Absolutely!

I only joined the debate because as someone with previous experience of the way Tivo works I thought I might be able to help those getting to grips with it.

I do champion Tivo (and have done so since I started using one in 2001) as it is one of the best consumer products I have ever used. There are some things about the new box and the quality of the EPG data which could be tweeked to further improve the experience and I hope VM implement these but I do honestly believe it is in a different league to V+.

I think people should make an informed choice about whether to get Tivo based on whether the additional features it has are worth the additional cost to them.

I can't believe it has been suggested that I work for VM just because I like Tivo and would recommend it to people.

Perhaps I am part of a VM Black ops team!! :D

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226639)

Hi

I dont recall any major updates but the business model was quite different ie you bought the box and added it to your current set top box (on digital in my case) and then paid £10 per month (or £200 one off) for the guide data.

The system had been available in the Uk for at least a year (i think) so I suspect any initial issues (if there were any) had been addressed by then.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226577)

Why DF are you going to recall the lies and speculation you have come up with on here , HD spending spree , red button arriving in weeks said months ago , the list goes on.

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35226616)

Here he says closer to April than August for the red button, seems pretty accurate to me.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35168872

And here the spending spree is sometime this year, plenty of this year left.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35173426

Regards

John

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35226609)

Good point, DF you did say all those things.

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35226662)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...on-page-7.html post 97

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226699)

My goodness, this has gotten out of hand hasn't it?

You've both made your opinions several times and I think it's time to put this to a rest before it degrades into personal fights, which is bad times! :)

I hope I didn't sound too much like a mod there.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226699)

My goodness, this has gotten out of hand hasn't it?

You've both made your opinions several times and I think it's time to put this to a rest before it degrades into personal fights, which is bad times! :)

I hope I didn't sound too much like a mod there.

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35226706)

If I see these personal comments continue, from either side, I will suspend the member in question. It stops now.

Originally Posted by sixfoottwo (Post 35226719)

Got my Tivo yesterday and am most unhappy. Watch Chelsea win and Utd lose. I am looking for a significant improvement.

Originally Posted by sixfoottwo (Post 35226719)

Got my Tivo yesterday and am most unhappy. Watch Chelsea win and Utd lose. I am looking for a significant improvement.