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Not seen an answer to this. Can anybody with a Tivo confirm that if you only part watch a recording, you can start where you left off or at least input a manual start time during the recording? My wife and I often do this and wouldn't want to have to fast forward from the start of a recording to guess where you last watched to.

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Thanks for the info. ;)

Are you talking about compression artefacts like blocking or are you talking about a softening of the picture?

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You can resume where you left off, but I don't think you can input a time.

However, you can skip in 15 min chunks along the time line, so can usually get to where you want quickly

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That seems a step back from V+ , also you can't set reminders I believe.

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I suppose it depends on how TiVo thought people would use the UI.

As for the reminder thing, no you can't set them. As to why, I'm sure that's already been discussed at length on here (and I know it certainly has on other forums). It's never been part of the TiVo experience, which is why it's not in the Virgin TiVo box.

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I can live without them for now but would recommend they are on the wish list for "enhancements".

The SD PQ is more of a concern as some people (not all) have stated they have a poorer PQ when the Tivo is installed which is not good. I'm hoping I see no difference with my setup.

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I don't see any noticeable difference on my setup. But now I have the hard drive space I don't think I have actually watched an SD programme in the whole 7 days I've had it. The HD picture to my eyes, on my setup, is better than the Samsung V+. I would urge those who are putting it off purely because of the SD quality should reconsider. Until you actually experience the Tivo properly, you can't really appreciate it fully.

As far as functionality goes it like upgrading your Nokia 3210 to an iPhone (I know some of you are probably thinking, "but the iPhone isn't all that" I think that too, but for the purpose of comparison I shall use it as an example)!

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I'm guessing this is down to the TV itself. I have a Sony Bravia which does an excellant job of upscalling on it's own. I don't have TIVO but I'm guessing the people not having issues have higher end tv's. I'm probably way off base with that though ;).

That would imply to me that the TIVO upscaling is inferior to the V+ upscaling at the moment.

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A little trick to get a reminder on your TiVo... Set the programme to record, and any other recording to start a little earlier (two others once you get the 3-tuner software). It will display a message a minute before it needs to use the live TV tuner to do the recording.

And even if you miss the reminder you'll still end up with the programme recorded. :)

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I have a Sony Bravia HX803 myself and currently have an excellent picture so hoping there is no difference as far as I am concerned.

There is plenty of SD content out there for latest programmes so want to make sure it still looks good.

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Maybe I'm missing something, so could someone explain to me why they need reminders when you will be able to record on all three tuners; just set a record, rather than reminder.

To me, the only reason for a reminder on the V+ was to be able to watch a third programme when the other 2 tuners were already recoding. Now, with a recordable third tuner, there's no need for that.

:confused:

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I agree. I only ever used reminders when I had my original non-recordable Sky box.

I guess it's all down to your individual needs, but I have never used reminders on a PVR and with three tuners soon to be activated I don' t see the need for it.

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Well, that's interesting. I had a Tivo installed on Saturday and my first thought was that the SD picture was significantly softer (ie worse). In my case, this is displayed on a Pioneer PDP5080LX (so, 50" and full HD) via an Onkyo TXSR806 AV amp. I'd consider this fairly good gear, and it yielded a good SD picture from an SA V+.

To cap it off, the engineer doing the install then told me that the old V+ doesn't have upscaling.... It seems to me more like the old V+ had upscaling and the Tivo doesn't!

As for general feelings on Tivo, so far I'm not very impressed. When setting a series link it cuts off the TV picture and sound. When you're setting up a link whilst watching something else (men, multitasking? It happens!) this is annoying - even the missus said so.

Some menus are displayed in a different resolution which is untidy. Also the lack of "i" functionality from the mini-guide is just downright annoying. Finally, and surprisingly, it's no faster (maybe even very slightly slower) than my old SA V+ when changing channel or indeed during general navigation. I think those daft confirm/deny noises will drive me half-mad, but at least you can turn those off ;)

Hopefully these are all things on the "to be fixed" list. Even if they are part of the standard Tivo functionality, they would still be better put back as they were on V+ !

As a side note, I miss the display on the front (displaying either channel number or position within a programme you are playing back) but most devices seem to be removing this. I guess I'm just old-school!

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We use reminders to automatically switch to the programme we want to sit down together and view while viewing some other garbage on another channel until the correct time

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known issue, will be addressed in a future code release. you can press "ok" on any programme and get info, but if it's currently showing then it will take you to that channel instead.

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I assume with Tivo the hardrive stops spinning eventually once put into standby? My Samsung box does but my SA box never did.

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.


Just a though to those moaning about TiVo rollout and software, at least they are better than Sky.

Just how long did it take them to start rollout of anytime+ ?

And now four months down the line and still some are waiting to get the software........


At least Virgin are basically only a couple of months late with a completely resigned box and new EPG......

I know who's doing the best job......

:angel:

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In regards to the people who have said that the SD picture is much softer than the older boxes, Can i just ask have you got the TIVO box connected via HDMI as this selects the best video output for you TV.
Or you could try this:


Video Output Format
Your box receives signals in any of five
possible formats – 1080i, 1080p, 720p,
576i and 576p.
If you’re using a HDMI cable to connect
your box to your TV, the box will
automatically set the best video output
format for your TV. You can also set the
output format for your TV by going to
the Video Output Formats screen and
selecting Auto Detect.
You might want to experiment with all the
different video formats that your TV and
the box support. You may find that some
formats are better suited to certain shows
than others.
The Video Output Formats screen
allows you to test and set the video
output format manually. Select Test
Formats and then follow the on screen
prompts to test which formats your
television can display. The supported
formats will be automatically selected
in the list of available video formats.

Just a thought?

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Don't think it does, I'm guessing that unlike the V+ it has to be 'ready' to record a lot more due to the Suggestions

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Can you turn them off ?

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Nice tip! :)

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Yes, the Suggestions can be turned off.

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I don't mind having them on I just don't want TIVO recording them all.

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That's what Suggestions are - it records them and then you rate them and delete them if you don't want them. It's not set up for you to choose them in advance

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Pretty daft idea then if it records junk you don't want. If it recommended before it was on you could choose whether you fancy it or not.

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that would defeat most of the point of the TiVo ;)

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It records based on your viewing habits via thumbsup/ down and learns from what you record sorecords similar in case you missed it.


Very handy in my view as I sometimes find a program partway through a series.....

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That's why you rate stuff you like and don't like. It learns what you watch, and only records things you will want to watch

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So TIVO is just for suggestions , not wishlists , remote record etc.

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Thumbs down stuff you don't like, and it won't be recorded again.

Plus, suggestions are automatically deleted or not recorded when you start running out of space or tuners so you never lose a recording you have planned because of a suggestion.

(this was all S1 stuff - assume its still valid)

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no? It's also for wishlists, remote record, best in market GUI..... :confused:

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exactly this, muppetman you're not grasping the concept of TiVo, it works on the assumption a full box is better than an empty box (and why wouldn't you?!)

As BenMcr states, the more you rate with thumbs, the better the suggestions get, and you'll end up with a changed life (seriously) as it'll have programs stored on it which it knows you'll like that you may not have previously known about

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ah, no... it's just one of the many delights of TiVo :romance:

It only starts to record suggestions once you have recorded and thumbs up/down some programmes. It gets smarter all the time.

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I understand it fully I've used the TIvo premiere when in the US just don't rate the Suggestions has highly as some people I mean really rating casualty with 3 thumbs up is likely to recommend Holby City not really groundbreaking is it.

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I've had Tivo a week and the suggestions are already recording things I like. Especially movies. It has recorded some real corkers from the Sky Movie channels.

One question on that which DF might be able to help me with - when it records of Sky Movies it is recording the SD version of the channel and not the HD one. Is there a reason for this?

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It is when no other PVR I know of in the UK does this already.

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When I get mine and have had it working for weeks I'll eat humble pie if it proves me wrong.

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a very simplistic view :)

When in fact it goes a lot deeper than that... actors, directors, producers etc...

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One of the suggestions fed back already - "get HD if available". :)

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Only time will tell , April if the other thread is right.

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are you trolling? Serious question.

This functionality (I think) is patented. you won't see it on any other PVR at least for the meantime.

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It's almost like another VoD channel... for example I love Family Guy/American Dad, but I don't want to watch every episode that's on, so TiVo Suggestions will record the odd episode - sweet... theres always something I want to watch, when I feel like :)

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?????????

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I don't think Muppetman11 is trolling :)

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DF, am I right in thinking if you dont get contacted by Virgin by 20th March regarding if you have won the Raffle or not they have forgotten about you :D

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Correct I'm just saying this isn't the massive seller for me, remote record , iPad app , 1tb HDD , wishlists , actor/cast info , HD epg etc however is.

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I'm not sure how they are handling non-winners, Matt.

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fair enough. I for one hope suggestions win you over though :)

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Before I had TiVo, I wasn't that fussed about Suggestions, but now I love them.

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I love suggestions ( whoops wrong forum ):erm:

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It's got to know me quite well now and is recording about 15 shows a day, some good movies I've always wanted to watch but never got around to :)

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a new VM TiVo Review here. sorry it's in the Daily Mail though :erm:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...e-rebound.html


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...#ixzz1FGvRAn6P

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Look people are taking this a bit far. Yes I'll stand by the fact the PQ is not as good on TiVo, but it's not that bad either, it's perfectly watchable. The SD shows look the same as they do upscaled on my TVs built in tuner, however the V+ did a better job and newer SD shows or live events almost looked as good as the HD channels.

The TiVo is auto-switching output now depending on the source. It's displaying HD content at 1080i and SD content at 720p. And yes SD does look better displayed at 720.

The above says to me that the TiVo isn't doing any upscaling, it's leaving it to the TV.

However don't let it stop you getting TiVo!! Most shows are in HD now and the TiVo is an awesome bit of kit!


A.

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Do you think if I sat here putting my thumb up and down, I'd get smarter?

I could do with some help in that area.... :)

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Ha Ha :D:D;)

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Here you go some help.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/02/1.gif

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If it's displaying 576i as 720p then it is upscaling.

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he he :D

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That's what I was just about to say!

Do we know for sure which Cisco model the TiVo is based on?

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I heard that Virgin are going to swap out their V+ for a standard VHD with the HD disabled.


And if they complain they will swap it for an analogue freeview box with no drop in subs


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/21.gif

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Ah yes you are correct... although it looks more zoomed than upscaled as my PS3, a DIVX player and the SA V+ all give a much sharper picture with a SD source.

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But they will swap out your nice shiny HD tv for a free black and white box tele! :erm:;)

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ha ha

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I had heard it is for a old analogue sky box:D

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Anybody received a feedback call from the TiVo team yet?

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No and that is why I am been stupid on the forum with sporadic post about anything and nothing:erm:

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This is exactly the type of review/comparison needed.

Does the PS3 pass the SD signal in 576i and let the TV do the scaling do you know?

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Have you not read the other thread. Gazgwinn would like to give them some feedback LOL

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Would people who have Tivo already say it was louder than the Samsung V+ or quieter?

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Maybe we should all leave VM, join Sky, quit Sky and then re-join VM? Being ex Sky seems to be a quick way to get a TIVO :D

http://www.avforums.com/forums/14151889-post778.html

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sounds about right.

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I'm guessing he's an S1 owner, quite a few are Sky deserter. :D

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in what way?

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Yep. theres a poll on TiVo community Forum and about 30% have come over from Sky for TiVo.

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He was asked that and he didn't say that he was.

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Ahhhh.. :confused:

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Yes on Saturday.

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It doesn't give out the quiet hum that the V+ does, but it's *so* quiet you can hear the head movement on the hard drive (in a quiet enough room anyway) which is harder for your brain to screen out (as it's random).

So the answer is 'it's quieter, but you might notice it more'

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The PS3 is outputting 1080p to the set. My TVs scaler is not as good.

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So the PS3's scaler is better than the Tivo?

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Well when Tivo is running and the hard drive is spinning would you say it was louder than the Samsung box?

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No it's not

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So the TiVo team are spending time ringing existing TiVo users for feedback rather than ringing outstanding interested parties for an initial install ?

(A hint of sarcasm, maybe, but I'm genuinely curious/confused)

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TBH, I think both are important. It's good for them to get feedback from normal users, not just gadget geeks like us who spend time hanging around forums such as this one (and, in my case, many others :)).

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But if the 'gossip' is to be believed, the only people to already have had TiVo installed are the 'gadget geeks' who have already had experienced the s1 TiVo

But I guess there are those people who were lucky enough to get a peanut in the post and took VM up on their offer of free TiVo.... but surely their feedback isn't going to be too scathing.... having got their TiVo for free :p:

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Thanks for the info DF :)

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I can honestly say I've never heard a sound out of mine. :)

My trusty SA V+HD, I could hear the HD spinning up and down - it didn't bother me, but some people had issues, especially if their V+ was in the bedroom.

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My Samsung V+ box is really quite I can leave it on in our bedroom now when sleeping, couldn't do that with SA V+ box. I've got it plugged in separately now to rest of equipment tv etc.

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TiVo is very quiet... I can only hear the HDD if I put my ear up to it.

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I thought this would be the case seems like the TIVO boxes are quality hardware. It looks nice enough.

Is it smaller than the Samsung V+ box and has it got a digital display on the front?

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It looks smaller to the Samsung to me, but I haven't got the diags to hand.

No digital display, just little lights that display certain functions in use. If the box is on standby, then you see no lights at all. :)

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Is there a list anywhere of these known issues, so we can see what they are and what priority is assigned to them?

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There isn't a public list, no.

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No lights when in standby thats great.

Shame I like the channel numbers on display, plus when your watching a recorded programme it's nice to see how long it's been running. But no big deal I guess probably wanted the box to look stream lined.

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Yeah, I know what you mean. You do get used to it though and the box looks good under the tv :)

It looks a bit like the PS3 :D

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Cool the PS3 slim I hope lol.

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ha ha, yeah it's not a bulky box :D

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Bit like the 50meg modems is it, is it shiny or matt?

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It's Matt, but yeah it follows the style of the 50meg modems

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In my opinion yes.

Live shows or studio shows aren't bad, dramas which have filmic effect added so they don't look studio shot are softer (as they would be normally).

Again don't let it put you off tivo, it's the best pvr out there and more. Try it for yourself for a week and if you don't like it cancel. :)

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Cheers just checked out a load of pics of it, does look nice in the pics. It's weird it looks like it made of rubber a bit in pics lol, especially the vents.

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lol I see what you mean, but no it's not rubber :D

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Cool your lucky getting it early you pay £1.50 a month for it don't you?

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Just press play and the time bar pops up. I've missed that bar, lol :)