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You have no way of knowing who will develop complications. You can risk assess, but that’s not black and white. Neither does it consider the collapse of the health service as and when the epidemic went out of control.

Every country in the world, bar Sweden, didn’t simultaneously decide to impose significant restrictions because Old Boy’s fag packet analysis reckons we can “shield the vulnerable” and be fine.

It’s an idea so bad not a single emerging economy thought to get the jump on its neighbours by staying open. No Southern European country thought to get a jump on France and Germany. And the countries who pushed too far are moving backwards.

To quote Professor Whitty we are near or at the limit of what we can do.

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Impressive, Corona virus sniffer dogs? What’s the accuracy percentage?

Do these dogs have testing kits with them too?

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I’m guessing the dogs identify general symptoms of a fever, indicating who deserves closer attention - unless of course they just happened to be doing a drugs sweep at the same time.

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Actually the government in this country are doing dog trials to detect Covid 19.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/c...trial-launches

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ns-of-covid-19

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https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...-accuracy.aspx

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All we need to do is train up a posse of these hounds and do systematic sweeps throughout town centres, pubs/clubs, schools, factories etc.

Job done.

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I’m not much of a statistician but “94% detection success” seems a bit misleading to me. Passing over a negative sample isn’t a detection as such. What you really need is a very high detection of positive samples, and the dogs failed to spot 30 of the 187 positive samples presented. That’s a positive detection of only 84%.

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Dogs probably have the same accuracy percentage as any of the tests available.

IMO :Yes:

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Great, that's more gold plated public sector pensions we'll have to shell out for. Dogs have got it made.

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That is because dogs know how to get it done Mr K.;)

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As I've mentioned before, what you need is a very high accuracy and fast negative test or simply infectivity test. If you know people who are out and about are not infective movement becomes much easier. Of course the downer comes that they remain non-infective.
If dogs can give a good and fast indicator maybe it's possible to then stream populations into further testing/isolation/treatment.

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Good article on how Turkey is successfully tackling Coronavirus with just 6,000 deaths in a country of 83 million people.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ntrol-12041863

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On now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000lkzq

Jeremy Farrar, one of the scientific advisors to the Government, says, amongst other things, that we started measures to stop the spread of the virus (he dislikes the word 'lockdown') too late, eased these measures too soon and that it was unwise to outsource the work done to monitor viruses.

He also said that the this will not be the last pandemic, so we must learn lessons from this one and that the investigation into how the Government dealt with it must be thorough and open and that we must not underestimate the seriousness of this situation.

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Get the dugs in....

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I don't think he was having a dig at the Government as they will have followed the advice of him and his colleagues, so he would be essentially critiscising himself!

Unless the Government didn't take their advice as they have claimed and that's what he was getting at. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash with the enquiry into it.