Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Agreed. It's weird framing because we've been told all along that Great Britain still has access to the EU market.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

We have the same access as America, China, India, Japan et al.

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Nope, we probably have similar access to Japan but China for one has tariffs on its car exports to the EU. Cars exported there from Japan and the UK do not attract tariffs.

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Re: Britain outside the EU
 

access != frictionless access

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It is quite significant that we now have a Tory leave government admitting that we are better off, in economic terms, as part of the EU SM.

All we have left are the ideological zealots who are content for the country to be damaged, in all meanings of that word, as long as they have their sovrinty purity. It is quite remarkable how much pain they are content to see inflicted in order that they maintain their religious high ground. Mark you, it is normally those who are not materially affected by this debacle that shout the loudest.

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I know its been said that Farage is not the brightest bulb in the box but his latest tweet:

after reading this article:

Milan Luxury Real Estate Booms as Bankers Leave London for Italy

Very, very funny ... :D

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

I mean we voted to leave all that, not for one part of the country to remain in, we were told by the reigning party that this wasn't an issue and Teresa Villiers even went as far as saying anyone bringing the border up was using scare tactics

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

The Scotland majority voted to remain in the EU but this does not seem to fit your narrative?

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It's not difficult: you said NI is in a privileged position and then reinforced this by reminding us that "The NI majority voted to remain in the EU".

I am reminding you that Scotland also voted to remain in the EU but is as unprivileged as the rest of us. Sort of Brexity cake and eat it time :D

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

The UK is a unitary state, whose citizens voted on the future relationship between that state and a supranational institution called the EU. Regardless of the UK’s internal construction or history, there was no separate vote in NI or Scotland or anywhere else.

These present separate negotiations have been necessary entirely because of the existence of a separate international treaty, the Belfast Agreement, which mandates an invisible international land border between the UK and the Republic of Ireland. It was drafted without considering the possibility that the UK and Ireland might find themselves on opposite sides of an EU external border, which complicated things somewhat.

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

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Oh, the irony…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-64808694

Re: Britain outside the EU
 

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of citing that the NI majority voted to remain in the EU. The UK as a whole left the EU so what the NI majority wanted was ignored, as was the Scottish majority.

So let's drop the "NI majority voted to remain" BS, NI has access to the EU SM because a) it underwrites the Belfast Agreement and b) it is the most advantageous economic model available, as Sunak highlighted.

TL;DR EU SM economic alignment is the best economic model - it's official :D

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It is so simple as that because we were told that's how simple it would be, repeatedly