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Since they didnt say that it explains nothing. :sleep:

Its just [another] virus would be more like it.

The problem was we didnt have [any] immunity.
Now we do, and more [and more] have been vaccinated.

It may not be the flu, but there is no obvious reason to treat it any differently [than the flu] once the vast majority have our immunity (and likely annual vaccinations).

The point the vast majority are vaccinated (twice) comes some time after May 17. OB has fundamentally downplayed the virus since the very start favouring no restrictions at any point, questioning the viability of a vaccine and sticking to the same mantra now that we have one.

It is clearly more of a threat to our health and our economy than the flu will be and every other virus. The extent that threat remains after vaccination is unclear, but it's not a binary position between restrictions and none.

On a seperate note Tony "in the know" Blair's institute for making money is talking up a delay in easing restrictions.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...id-in-uk-study

Obviously he's an insider with access so I'd expect this to be Government policy after the May elections.

pip08456

28-04-2021 09:14

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Study shows 1st dose of vaccine reduces transmission.

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A single dose of a coronavirus vaccine can reduce household transmission of the virus by up to half, a study shows.

Those given a first dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines - and who became infected three weeks later - were between 38% and 49% less likely to pass the virus on than unvaccinated people, PHE found.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56904993

Pierre

28-04-2021 16:57

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36078174)

Study shows 1st dose of vaccine reduces transmission.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56904993

Don't tell the lock down lovers, it doesn't fit their narrative.

pip08456

28-04-2021 17:04

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36078213)

Don't tell the lock down lovers, it doesn't fit their narrative.

I like being the bearer of bad news for them.;)

nomadking

28-04-2021 17:05

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36078213)

Don't tell the lock down lovers, it doesn't fit their narrative.

Well if they will insist on importing new cases and variants.:mad:
Link

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Three cases of the Indian variant of coronavirus have been found in Leicester, health officials have confirmed.
...
He said they were linked to travel from India, and further testing was being carried out at a city school.
More than 100 cases have been found in the UK and officials say its genetic changes might make it more contagious.
...
Leicester currently has the eighth highest number of infections of Covid-19 compared with other regions in England, with a rate of 55 per 100,000 cases.

Hugh	28-04-2021 17:22

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36078174)

Study shows 1st dose of vaccine reduces transmission.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56904993

Excellent news - anything that reduces the risk of transmission can only be good.

Really bad news for the virus lovers.

jfman

28-04-2021 17:45

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Indeed it is excellent news. Makes you wonder why some want to (and indeed are desperate to) take short cuts when we are dishing out half a million vaccines a day.

Mad Max

28-04-2021 19:57

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Three cases of the Indian variant of coronavirus have been found in Leicester, health officials have confirmed.
...
He said they were linked to travel from India, and further testing was being carried out at a city school.
More than 100 cases have been found in the UK and officials say its genetic changes might make it more contagious.
...
Leicester currently has the eighth highest number of infections of Covid-19 compared with other regions in England, with a rate of 55 per 100,000 cases.

Surely not....:D

pip08456

28-04-2021 20:49

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As expected there will be a vacine autumn programme.

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The Vaccines Taskforce has secured an extra 60 million doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

The extra doses will help support preparations for the COVID-19 vaccine booster programme from the autumn.

Link

jfman

29-04-2021 13:36

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/...rope-from-june

And great news if we can get it into teenagers given the inability to properly mitigate Covid in educational settings through NPIs.

They too will soon be 38% less likely to spread the virus on one shot of vaccine.

joglynne

29-04-2021 14:25

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The Pfizer results on the trial which has led up to jfman's link can be seen Here.

spiderplant

29-04-2021 14:36

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36078299)

They too will soon be 38% less likely to spread the virus on one shot of vaccine.

Wasn't it 49% for Pfizer; 38% for AZ?

jonbxx

29-04-2021 15:17

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36078299)

Excellent news! My youngest who hates injections might not be so pleased :D

She used to try and get out of vaccinations but she doesn't even try any more - we won that one!

Pierre

29-04-2021 16:19

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36078312)

Excellent news! My youngest who hates injections might not be so pleased :D

She used to try and get out of vaccinations but she doesn't even try any more - we won that one!

I don't think I will be in any rush to have my two boys vaccinated but no doubt it will be forced on upon them if we want to go on holiday.

There is no reason to have under 18's (you could probably go as far as under 30) vaccinated.

Hugh	29-04-2021 16:24

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Unless you want to reduce the chance of them spreading the virus if they are one of the one in three that is asymptomatic when they get it.

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n723

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Beate Kampmann, director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine’s Vaccine Centre, told The BMJ that while most children were not at risk of severe covid-19 illness, they may have an important role when it comes to transmission.

“To include children in the vaccination programme is essentially a question of their role in transmission of the virus. They do not usually have severe disease manifestations, with a few exceptions, usually related to comorbidities. The more adults we can protect with the vaccines the less the vaccination of children would matter. However, to achieve as much suppression of viral circulation and to get to community immunity which can then suppress transmission and evolution of new variants, it could be justified,” she said, adding that it was unlikely that children under 5 would be vaccinated.

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