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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36077775)

Israel have recorded 0 deaths in a day for the first time in over a year. We are incredibly close to success.

No idea why someone would want to risk another lockdown by not taking baby steps over the course of a couple of months. A couple of months in which second vaccinations get into the over 60s and first vaccines to almost everyone.

Bang on.....

Taking baby steps during a pandemic is good science.

Taking baby steps to combat an endemic is rediculous.

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Britain is no longer in a pandemic, experts have said, as new data showed the vaccination programme is reducing symptomatic Covid infections by up to 90 per cent.

In the first large real-world study of the impact of vaccination on the general population, researchers found that the rollout is having a major impact on cutting both symptomatic and asymptomatic cases.

Sarah Walker, Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at Oxford and Chief Investigator on the Office for National Statistics Covid-19 Infection Survey, said that Britain had ‘moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation’ where the virus is circulating at a low, largely controllable level in the community.

Source (no paywall)

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36077785)

Taking baby steps during a pandemic is good science.

Taking baby steps to combat an endemic is rediculous.

Source (no paywall)

Unless I'm very much mistaken cases are still rapidly increasing globally. Ergo, we are still in pandemic.....

Relaxing too much too quickly will see the current endemic situation we then have an outbreak and we then find ourselves in an another epidemic in this country

Folk should be allowed go to pubs/clubs/football/theater/cinema etc, the vaccination program will have done it's job in the UK.

The big problem is 'allowing' the virus back into the Country, that's where the biggest danger of a resurgence lies.

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"There is widespread dismay and outrage across the Kettering constituency that the organiser of a huge Irish traveller funeral held right in the middle of Kettering during the Covid lockdown in November, attended by 150 people in clear and flagrant breach of the pandemic regulations, has not been prosecuted."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-56846218

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36077790)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1619193882

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36077746)

Or you may think that covid is 'just flu'. ;)

You posted this in the Cummings thread.

You said:

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The highest death toll in Europe isn't 'getting it right'.

Nor are you getting it right. The following is a non-exhaustive list of European countries that have a higher death rate/million population:

Czech, Italy, Belgium, Hungary, Slovenia, Slovakia, Bulgaria

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36077787)

Unless I'm very much mistaken cases are still rapidly increasing globally. Ergo, we are still in pandemic.....

Except it was in reference to this country, not the world.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077796)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1619193882

Amusing, but apples & oranges ....... ;)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077820)

You posted this in the Cummings thread.

You said:

Nor are you getting it right. The following is a non-exhaustive list of European countries that have a higher death rate/million population:

Czech, Italy, Belgium, Hungary, Slovenia, Slovakia, Bulgaria

Belgium has an even worse way of recording covid deaths than we do, pretty much anyone who died in Belgium at one point was put down as a covid victim iirc

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36077829)

Except it was in reference to this country, not the world.

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Amusing, but apples & oranges ....... ;)

Pandemic is used to describe at the global level, epidemic at the country.

If you remember last year there were complaints about the WHO’s delay in declaring COVID-19 a pandemic.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36077841)

Pandemic is used to describe at the global level, epidemic at the country.

If you remember last year there were complaints about the WHO’s delay in declaring COVID-19 a pandemic.

Then take that up with the writer of the article. It doesn't change anything in regards to the UK.

With Covidiots like these expect another wave then

https://news.sky.com/story/oxford-st...ondon-12285712

What's happening in India is awful. There is a full-scale humanitarian crisis unfolding and it's only getting worse. 1 million people with COVID in the last few days but that's with shaky testing data, the real number is likely to be higher.

There are videos of people driving their mothers and fathers to the hospital pleading for a bed but the hospitals are at capacity, the staff are working well above capacity, and so the families are trying to persuade their relatives to keep breathing as they lay in the back of a vehicle. It's so awful.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36077879)

With Covidiots like these expect another wave then

https://news.sky.com/story/oxford-st...ondon-12285712

Unlikely.
The protests last year seemed to have little effect, no reason for these to be any different.

Leading scientists are recommending that requirements for social distancing and face masks should be scrapped in the UK due to the success of the vaccination programme.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...control-lives/

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Social distancing should be abolished in June to allow people "to take back control of their own lives", a letter signed by 22 leading scientists and academics says.

The open letter states that "a good society cannot be created by obsessive focus on a single cause of ill-health" and calls for all restrictions to be lifted on June 21 – the final date in Boris Johnson's roadmap out of lockdown.

Mass community testing is also unnecessary, say the signatories, who favour a more targeted approach along with encouraging hand-washing and surface cleaning.

They are also urging the Government to scrap vaccine passports as Covid "no longer requires exceptional measures of control in everyday life".

Ending social distancing restrictions would allow family members from different households to meet up inside and give many grandparents the opportunity to hug their grandchildren for the first time in months.

The scientists – from a broad range of specialities and all sides of the political spectrum – insist the "theoretical risk" of vaccine-immune strains or a new virus surge should not outweigh the harms caused by lockdown rules, including damage to children's education and the nation's mental health.

The scientists say face masks should not be mandatory come June 21 and that the recommendation of face coverings for schoolchildren should never have been extended after Easter. Calling for masks to be ended in classrooms by May 17, they warn that the damage to society will be too great if the current Covid control measures continue into the autumn.