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That's a good move by Valneva, because the rules of the common procurement scheme allow individual member states to deal directly with a supplier if that supplier isn't in active negotiations with the EU itself. They can probably supply as much vaccine within the EU by dealing directly than they would have by dealing with the EU.

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You may think that, but COVID is waiting behind a tree at the end of your road, and as soon as you go out it will jump on you giver a good kicking. So for your protection the the government will keep all the legislation in place that is passed without scrutiny or a vote, you know, in case it needs it, for your safety............

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Very good :D Similar to wee nippy in Scotland, treating the population like school kids, hardly any cases of covid, the majority of people in the vulnerable and over 50s vaccinated, and yet here we are, still under stupid bloody restrictions, like allowing pubs to open indoors till 8pm, but you're not allowed to have an alcoholic drink! She obviously doesn't trust her own people, hopefully it shows in the May elections and the shower of shit called the SNP get punted.

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Looks like you’ve finally clicked on the danger of new variants.

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heck I need more drink, my imagination is running riot:
Scenario:-

Covid in uniform jumps from behind a tree, clip board at the ready

*excuse me Sir, can I see your Covid vaccination record please?

Paul hands over documents.

Covid in uniform checks off details against his clip board list.

Covid in uniform looks up, grins in a nasty way.

I see you're missing Appalachian variant B26ZX08 . . and pounces :D

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Oh yes, especially the new « double mutant « Indian one.

Yes, and if that’s not enough we’ll introduce the « double secret mutant » variant. That’ll sort it.

https://youtu.be/1tfK_3XK4CI

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I heard an egghead say the other day that providing it's still covid 19 the vaccine should still offer a good level of protection against any variant, the problem is if it becomes something entirely new like covid 21 but he was also optimistic about that to saying it'd be much easier to control and deal with now we don't have a pandemic running wild.

Tremendous results from the vaccine, the same egghead said out of 34 million vaccinated only 35 have been hospitalised after catching covid

I had my first dose on Wednesday, felt awful yesterday but it's passed now

Terrible stories from India, makes me think there must be something we can do to help them

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Or you may think that covid is 'just flu'. ;)

Let's stop with the point scoring and actually debate the issues.

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Your rich history of pointless posts continues. ;)

That's enough of the point scoring.Debate the subject.

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Good news, sooner we're out of lockdown the better.

Full article on link, no paywall.

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Interesting new vaccine enters phase 3 trials in UK. A vaccine derived from plants.

I wonder what Jonbxx thinks.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1619174072

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Yeah, it's an interesting technology, getting plants like tobacco and their close relatives to make drugs. The tech has a fun name 'pharming' ;) Pharming has also been used to make drugs in milk from sheep and cows.

The huge advantage of using plants to make vaccine is the ease of handling. Vaccines are often made using cell culture which is pretty tough and time consuming whereas plant technologies need the skills of your regular gardener once you have the DNA in there.

The downsides are getting the drug out afterwards and scaling up. Plant cells are pretty tough to break down while keeping the virus like particle intact unlike animal or insect cells which just need mild detergents. With scaling, you would think just sow fields of the plants but there are issues with genetically modified crops out there in the wild.

It looks like Medicago have got it working well however and GSKs experience with adjuvants to boost the immune system looks good.

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The mentality of 'sooner we're out of lockdown' contributed towards the significant second wave.

The current mentality using the science (to a degree) release brake, observe, release a bit further etc. is the best possible solution. I mean, it only took the government a year to implement it, despite it being blindingly obvious.... but hey ho

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Israel have recorded 0 deaths in a day for the first time in over a year. We are incredibly close to success.

No idea why someone would want to risk another lockdown by not taking baby steps over the course of a couple of months. A couple of months in which second vaccinations get into the over 60s and first vaccines to almost everyone.