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. . . until something goes wrong and when they switch on for Coronation Street and the screen is blank. I would not like to trust the current state of the internet to bring TV channels 24/7

muppetman11

10-12-2018 14:34

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35974574)

. . . until something goes wrong and when they switch on for Coronation Street and the screen is blank. I would not like to trust the current state of the internet to bring TV channels 24/7

I guess that's a fair point , both BT and Talk Talk have generally received more complaints than the industry average for a while according to Ofcom and both use IP delivery.

Stuart

10-12-2018 16:02

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35974574)

. . . until something goes wrong and when they switch on for Coronation Street and the screen is blank. I would not like to trust the current state of the internet to bring TV channels 24/7

That's the problem with IPTV. Lots to go wrong.

With Terrestrial Broadcast TV, there is still a lot that can go wrong, but there is also redundancy built in to almost every part of the system apart from the consumer equipment watching it. Even without the redundancy, the path is considerably more direct, which reduces the chances of failure itself.

I'm over simplifying, but the path each broadcast takes is essentially Broadcaster>Transmission Network Control Center>Transmitter>User's device.

The path taken for IPTV is essentially Content provider>Content Delivery Network>Internet>User's ISP>Internet>User. On the fact of it, not as complicated, but the term "Internet" covers potentially dozens of points of failure, including the ISPs local network, and any transatlantic links. Now, the Content Delivery Network is a form of redundancy itself as it should bypass any faults. The user's ISP should also have redundant links, at least to the major IPTV services, but there is still the problem of the local network that still introduces a lot of potential failure points. Most consumer ISPs will have redundancy on their connections to the internet, but that redundancy probably doesn't spread to the users.

Raider999

10-12-2018 16:41

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974557)

Now, AT&T in the States has abandoned the use of satellites, saying that it will not launch any more. Only a matter of time now before Sky makes a similar announcement.

I would imagine that in 10 - 15 years, Sky will cease to broadcast any more by satellite in favour of their new IPTV system about to be launched in the UK.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/ATT-s...-streaming.php

You may be correct, however Sky are introducing the IPTV system to grow their customer base by adding those unable or unwilling to have a dish.

muppetman11

10-12-2018 23:01

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35969443)

Ok, denphone, if you don't think a third of all content is a loss, I can't really add anything further than that. Remember its Disney and Fox stuff.

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Without turning this into the linear channels thread, but its all interlinked, that AT&T deal with Sky is also up in 2020. If Sky lose that content too, that is almost certainly the end of Sky Atlantic as a viable channel.

Funny people keep mentioning about Sky losing content even though it’s parent company are predicted along with Disney to dominate global content spending.
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denphone

11-12-2018 05:13

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35974711)

Funny people keep mentioning about Sky losing content even though it’s parent company are predicted along with Disney to dominate global content spending.
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Indeed anybody can make claims but thus so far the wild predictions that several have predicted for the future have not transpired or are likely too.

OLD BOY

11-12-2018 09:16

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35974624)

You may be correct, however Sky are introducing the IPTV system to grow their customer base by adding those unable or unwilling to have a dish.

That is also true, but ultimately, the cost of delivery of programmes by satellite compared with IPTV will lead to IPTV taking over.

I share the view that relying solely on the internet for TV is of concern when you consider how often this might fail. And you won't be able to fall back on your recordings either if everything is recorded to the cloud.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35974719)

Indeed anybody can make claims but thus so far the wild predictions that several have predicted for the future have not transpired or are likely too.

Well, they won't have, will they, as the future hasn't happened yet?

denphone

11-12-2018 11:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974743)

According to you that future you predicted started years ago but l can have a word with Marty to move it forward a few decades for you.;)

OLD BOY

11-12-2018 13:38

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35974752)

According to you that future you predicted started years ago but l can have a word with Marty to move it forward a few decades for you.;)

And the predictions were made for 20 years ahead. Do you remember that also? Only 3 years have elapsed since then, so you need to hold on to your hollihocks.

denphone

11-12-2018 13:44

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974785)

And the predictions were made for 20 years ahead. Do you remember that also? Only 3 years have elapsed since then, so you need to hold on to your hollihocks.

Don't worry it is my great intention to remind you of this once or twice along the way unless l pop my clogs quickly.;)

OLD BOY

11-12-2018 13:54

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35974788)

Don't worry it is my great intention to remind you of this once or twice along the way unless l pop my clogs quickly.;)

I can't see you popping off quickly Den, as when you are focussed on something that intently, it gives you something to live for!

Here's cheers to a long life of baiting and bitching for both of us! :drunk:

denphone

11-12-2018 14:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35974793)

l would not call it baiting as l would call it a difference of opinion OB.:)

pip08456

11-12-2018 18:06

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Funny how I can watch what I want, when I want from multiple sources.

If that can be done now by pirates why not the providers being able to?

Looks like being a pirate is the better option.

Have content providers not heard of the cloud?

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