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Hugh 08-12-2020 14:43

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
There is evidence this has happened (and you can’t exclude the ‘vehement press’, because politicians and their readers react to them - they shape opinion/actions).

https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...parks-tory-row

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...le-proroguing/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-crisis.html

Dave42 09-12-2020 11:52

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Sir Jim Ratcliffe confirms new vehicle to be made in France


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55236852

another leaver making things in EU and not UK

Sephiroth 09-12-2020 12:04

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36061476)
Sir Jim Ratcliffe confirms new vehicle to be made in France


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55236852

another leaver making things in EU and not UK

It'll be interesting to see public reaction to the purchase of things French when all this is done. If there's a deal, I and others I know may exercise discretion (Port Salut cheese comes to mind).


Damien 09-12-2020 12:07

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36061478)
It'll be interesting to see public reaction to the purchase of things French when all this is done. If there's a deal, I and others I know may exercise discretion (Port Salut cheese comes to mind).


Don't see why there would be an impact because they took some car manufacturing away.

nomadking 09-12-2020 12:07

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36061476)
Sir Jim Ratcliffe confirms new vehicle to be made in France

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55236852

another leaver making things in EU and not UK

More a case of taking over an existing factory, rather than building a new factory.
Also an extra part of the deal is this.
Quote:

Under the deal, Ineos will also build Daimler's Smart EQ electric car at the Hambach site and supply parts for Mercedes Benz, as well as producing the Grenadier, inspired by the Land Rover Defender.
Common sense business decision to take over an existing factory, instead of having all the trouble and expense of building a new one.

1andrew1 09-12-2020 12:16

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36061480)
More a case of taking over an existing factory, rather than building a new factory.
Also an extra part of the deal is this.
Common sense business decision to take over an existing factory, instead of having all the trouble and expense of building a new one.

Could have taken over Honda's Swindon factory which is closing. Except of course it's not in the EU.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061479)
Don't see why there would be an impact because they took some car manufacturing away.

Agreed. Ford sales have kept up despite no UK assembly any more.

nomadking 09-12-2020 12:23

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061482)
Could have taken over Honda's Swindon factory which is closing. Except of course it's not in the EU.

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Agreed. Ford sales have kept up despite no UK assembly any more.

The Swindon plant isn't due to close until later on next year, which would be too late.
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Daimler, the German company that owns Mercedes, said Ineos would take control of the factory in the coming weeks. No sale price was disclosed. The new vehicle will start being built at Hambach late next year.

1andrew1 09-12-2020 12:35

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36061486)
The Swindon plant isn't due to close until later on next year, which would be too late.

Not an issue. Negotiation is always possible in these things. Note the word planned. Wasn't the Smart plant planned to close next year too?
What's not negotiable is whether a UK car plant is in the Customs Union and Single Market.

Hugh 09-12-2020 12:35

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
How do we build up Britain’s post-Brexit capabilities if the billionaires who advocated for Brexit won’t build stuff here.

1andrew1 09-12-2020 12:40

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36061489)
How do we build up Britain’s post-Brexit capabilities if the billionaires who advocated for Brexit won’t build stuff here.

That's a good question that many would like to see answered. The outlook for manufacturing in a post-Brexit world does not look great.

What we are seeing though is growth in film and TV studios eg Elstree, Reading, Dagenham and Liverpool.

denphone 09-12-2020 12:41

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36061489)
How do we build up Britain’s post-Brexit capabilities if the billionaires who advocated for Brexit won’t build stuff here.

This is a reasonable article giving some of the reasons why.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidda...h=4cf2e271276c

1andrew1 09-12-2020 12:49

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36061491)
This is a reasonable article giving some of the reasons why.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidda...h=4cf2e271276c

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

Maybe in a post-Brexit world we'll focus less on farming, fishing, manufacturing and the City and more on the creative arts and tourism. That would leave quite a few people stranded with redundant skills though.

nomadking 09-12-2020 12:58

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061488)
Not an issue. Negotiation is always possible in these things. Note the word planned. Wasn't the Smart plant planned to close next year too?
What's not negotiable is whether a UK car plant is in the Customs Union and Single Market.

Honda said the date of closure was "set in stone" for July 2021 in order to have "clarity".
The French plant is not only still up and running, INEOS have taken over the existing contracts to supply cars and parts produced there. It's making money right now, as opposed to sometime never in Wales.

Sephiroth 09-12-2020 13:04

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36061479)
Don't see why there would be an impact because they took some car manufacturing away.

Macron comes to mind and his attitude to the UK.

1andrew1 09-12-2020 13:04

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36061495)
Honda said the date of closure was "set in stone" for July 2021 in order to have "clarity".
The French plant is not only still up and running, INEOS have taken over the existing contracts to supply cars and parts produced there. It's making money right now, as opposed to sometime never in Wales.

Swindon is still up and running. INEOS could have taken over the existing contracts to supply Honda. I'm sure the British workers would have preferred jobs instead of "clarity" but their jobs seem of little importance to you.
Smart is not making money. That's why Mercedes-Benz sold a 50% stake in the company to Geely and wanted rid of the French factory.


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