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Digital Fanatic 21-03-2011 10:43

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35196618)
Forgive my ignorance but what is the sales brief, do you mean the phone call?

When being sold by sales/contact with customers once launched.

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35196625)
Any ideas what the BBC Red button would be available? are we talking summer time?

Anytime between now and August. No firm date announced just yet.

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Originally Posted by Tod (Post 35196623)
Red button is an essential part of UK digital broadcasting, especially BBC and Sky channels. The service is incomplete without it.

I can't say I have seen the sales blurb with it saying there is no red button support?

Phase 1 was BBCi Player, full Red Button is Phase 2.

BBCi Player launched 2 weeks ago.

BenJSmyth 21-03-2011 10:45

Re: TiVo
 
It's all down to personal requirements. For me, the red button stuff is of no interest. Tivo has many more features to outweight the lack of the red button facility - IMO.

Others will need the red button facility and therefore Tivo won't be for them just yet. All down to what you want really. I am super happy with Tivo. Last night we were watching Ross Kemp's Extreme World which we had recorded earlier in the week from Sky 1 HD. 10 o clock came and all three recording lights came on to record a further three HD channels whilst us watching our HD recording. For me, that is more important, to have that facility to effectively record one extra channel than the V+ could.

clinteastman 21-03-2011 11:02

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenJSmyth (Post 35196633)
It's all down to personal requirements. For me, the red button stuff is of no interest. Tivo has many more features to outweight the lack of the red button facility - IMO.

Others will need the red button facility and therefore Tivo won't be for them just yet. All down to what you want really. I am super happy with Tivo. Last night we were watching Ross Kemp's Extreme World which we had recorded earlier in the week from Sky 1 HD. 10 o clock came and all three recording lights came on to record a further three HD channels whilst us watching our HD recording. For me, that is more important, to have that facility to effectively record one extra channel than the V+ could.

Yep I never use the red button mainly because it's so slow. Truth be known there could be no red button on my current box and I would be none the wiser.

If the red button services were quicker (maybe it will be on TiVo) then I might end up using it.

mersey70 21-03-2011 11:23

Re: TiVo
 
It's up to the user whether it is a valuable service but 12 million people use the BBC Red Button every week so it is clearly very popular. I agree VM's current implementation of it is quite clunky but I found it very useful all the same, hopefully Tivo's version will be lightning fast. Sky's version is clunky too, I find the Freeview version the best but the features are of course limited.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcintern...ust_servi.html

fixerman 21-03-2011 11:26

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35196608)
I don't agree with that. If you want the red button, you wait for it to launch on TiVo - simples really ;)

Good old DF, singing the company song as usual!

RobboEdin 21-03-2011 11:26

Re: TiVo
 
Would I not be right in thinking that the majority of people have alternate access to red button via their digital television?

BenMcr 21-03-2011 11:30

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35196649)
Would I not be right in thinking that the majority of people have alternate access to red button via their digital television?

Not everyone has an aerial connected to their TV ;)

mersey70 21-03-2011 11:30

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35196649)
Would I not be right in thinking that the majority of people have alternate access to red button via their digital television?

You would be right but the Freeview service is very, very limited regarding video streams. Just the one is available these days.

All the text services are available on Freeview as far as I know though.

ntl.wotcha 21-03-2011 11:30

Re: TiVo
 
I'm not too bothered about Red Button. It's only really any use if your watching TV live and to be honest the wife and kids very rarely let me watch anything live.

I am looking forward to F1 in HD this year and not having to worry about HD space or random reboots.

Digital Fanatic 21-03-2011 11:32

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35196648)
Good old DF, singing the company song as usual!

Hi :waving: Fixerman

muppetman11 21-03-2011 11:40

Re: TiVo
 
It's very much a personal choice , some may not be bothered about red button services , personally I an especially Premiership football which is one of the reasons I switched to Sky. I suppose VM could argue if you want red button service , stick with V+ until full red button services launch on TIVO.

Gunslinger 21-03-2011 11:44

Re: TiVo
 
May be an issue when Wimbledon comes round, if not fixed by then.

As a workaround, why do VM not carry the red button video streams as 'visible' channels in the EPG - as virtually all Freeview boxes do, and I recall NTL did some years ago before the existing red button was fully accessible from all boxes?

passingbat 21-03-2011 12:21

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35196586)

If TiVo has never had red button, then VM should wait till it has to put it out. We may moan about delays, as I have just, but instead, a later release schedule should have been put out.

Why wait to release with the red button?

If it's delayed, all of us have to wait for tivo. If it's released now, those of us not bothered about red button can get tivo now and those who want red button can stick with V+ until tivo gets red buttoned.

Red button users are unaffected timescale wise and non red button users get tivo funcionality earlier.

Maybe you want to deny us non red button users the pleasure of tivo early?

toady 21-03-2011 14:09

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha (Post 35196654)
I'm not too bothered about Red Button. It's only really any use if your watching TV live and to be honest the wife and kids very rarely let me watch anything live.

I am looking forward to F1 in HD this year and not having to worry about HD space or random reboots.

Just that you won't be able to watch the practise on the red button service with TIVO :)

Tod 21-03-2011 14:11

Re: TiVo
 
It is a major lacking in the service if there is no red button, you should all be united in pushing Virgin to impliment it.......otherwise you have yourselves to blame when they leave it 6 months because people are saying it does not matter...when it does!

It may not matter that it is not there at the moment for the launch, but if it is still not there in a months time, that is pretty poor in my opinion.


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