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No he didn't

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ments-about-d/

and he didn't say "there were fine people on both sides" when talking about white supremacists.

And he didn't say there would be a bloodbath if he wasn't elected.

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In the US, that could be applied to either side.

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It wasn’t bleach, true…

From your link…

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He said there would be a bloodbath for the whole country if he was not elected. His aids said later that he was referring to the automotive industry. I think most people applying critical thinking to this multi-convicted politician
would be sceptical of this backtracking.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...on-2024-03-17/

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Take the red hat off, it cutting of the blood to your brain, my post specifically referenced we and they meaning the populations as a whole and the fact I actually said both sides later on in the post should really have clarified things but instead you decide to go with the old faithful both sides are at it defence

Timothy Mellon
REPUBLICAN
Railroad magnate and heir
Total large donations: $197M

Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein
REPUBLICAN
Shipping magnates
Total large donations: $139M

Miriam Adelson
REPUBLICAN
Physician and widow of businessman Sheldon Adelson
Total large donations: $136M

Elon Musk
REPUBLICAN
Billionaire technology executive
Total large donations: $132.2M

Kenneth Griffin
REPUBLICAN
Hedge fund manager
Total large donations: $103.7M

Jeff & Janine Yass
REPUBLICAN
Financier and education advocate
Total large donations: $96.2M

Paul Singer
REPUBLICAN
Hedge fund manager and activist investor
Total large donations: $63.4M

Michael Bloomberg
DEMOCRAT
Former mayor of New York City
Total large donations: $47.4M

Stephen & Christine Schwarzman
REPUBLICAN
Investor and philanthropist
Total large donations: $40M

Dustin Moskovitz
DEMOCRAT
Facebook co-founder
Total large donations: $38.9M

(Thanks Hugh)

Two Democrats sneaked in giving the magas the chance to legitimately say well the other side are doing it too whilst ignoring they're doing it much, much more but fine stop them all from donating as very few or none are doing it with honourable intentions. I said after the brexit vote I would be happy if it brought about a change in our politics where everyone's vote counted and the lobbying money was banned but instead of that it's been doubled down on at the expense of pretty much everyone else and it's worse in America, I bet they long for the days of Clinton, Obama and the Bushes, halcyon days compared to what they have now.

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Anyone doubting that Trump expects to lose need look no further than this clip of a rally in Pennsylvania yesterday. In essence “I’m clever, I’ve been warning you what the other side will do, but now I won’t get the chance to fix it because they’ve rigged the election”.

In 2020 he waited until Wednesday morning when most of the results were in before claiming the election was stolen from him. This time he didn’t even get beyond the final weekend of the campaign.

Trump is losing, bigly. And he knows it. The strategy now is to delegitimise the result and unleash his pet domestic terrorists, the Proud Boys (whose colours he started wearing a week or so ago, when he began to be seen in a black and gold MAGA hat instead of the usual red and white).

https://x.com/phillipspobrien/status...56-Kgau3lzowJw

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He was going on about them rigging it against him before he won in 2016. It's just his thing.

I would be wary of going by these vibes. I doubt they have internal polling that is dramatically different to the point that the campaigns privately know it's a done deal. If it were that certain we would have more evidence from state polls other than Iowa, there might be more evidence in the early voting or party registration....

All we have is that Iowa poll and some other signs that he is weaker amongst rural white men than in previous elections. Might be enough for him to pull a massive sulk on stage but we might be reading too much into it.

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Piers Morgan reckons Trump is heading for victory, Boris Johnson features too

https://youtu.be/xP5aX6whDwU

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If you bet on the opposite of anything Piers Morgan says, you’ll never go far wrong. ;)

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Background info

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0en401330jo

Latest

https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-...ay-2024-11-04/

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And your point is?

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No, he said it would be a bloodbath for US automotive industry if he wasn’t elected, as China was going to build a big plant in Mexico.

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I would consider staging a coup against the sitting president, who was intending to run, and instilling the vice-President without a primary, as the new presidential candidate………….as manipulative.

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That proposing injecting disinfectant into your body is not a reasoned, or reasonable, proposal…

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Well, I think we're at the point where there isn't going to be a big October surprise. It's been quite a boring run really. There was the drama when Harris replaced Biden, her surge that eventually equalled out to about 50/50 and it's stayed there.

I think we can be sure that Biden would have lost this but now it's all up in the air.

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Post removed. Move on from irrelevant nit picking about what was said years ago.

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Now we playing the waiting game as all polls are open

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I guess it’ll be lunchtime tomorrow when we get a pretty good idea of what happened.