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BenMcr 10-12-2021 14:58

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36105103)
Are there benefits switching to VIOP from the physically land line?

Not really at the moment, they basically behave in exactly the same way, just come from a different socket.

Carth 10-12-2021 15:04

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 36105074)
So what's it actually worth? When you add everything together, I think you'll find it's good value IF you're going to be using it all.

For someone that just has 30gb sim and broadband, you're obviously not going to see the value.

Well said, something is only 'worth' the value you place on it for how much it's used.

My 'smart' phone costs £9 a month (Tesco), I don't game on it, watch movies or sport on it, no email set up, no social media either. It's used as a phone, not a multimedia device.
My internet is 100Mb, plenty good enough for the use it gets . . . and it gets a lot of use (2 people working from home and a daughter with an iPad glued to her hands). An upgrade would just cost me more money . . for the same amount of use.

Sephiroth 10-12-2021 15:43

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36105103)
Are there benefits switching to VIOP from the physically land line?

Not really, Ian. But VM will be closing their copper landline network and if you want to continue taking VM phone services, you'll be forced down this route if you have a Hub 3/Hub 4.

There are downsides of IP telephony should you have a power failure at home. I can maintain my Hub 4 for a couple of hours via my UPS if I'm frugal with other stuff attached to it. But then there's always the iphone or equivalent.

Btw, I made my report here because so little is said about telephony and modem mode.

Tricky Trevor 10-12-2021 16:28

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105094)
No, you can't fix it yourself, it has to be done remotely by VM

Thank you for that Ben. I just rang them again and a lady answered who sounded like she had a bucket on her head so I don't know if she was working from home or not.

We went through rebooting the Hub 4 and unplugging the pods but still had the green and white lights blinking. She then told me that she was putting me though to someone higher up (that knows what they are talking about?) and suggested it might be better if they replaced the pods. So as I waited to be put through, an atomated message came through asking me to enter the employee number of the person I wish to speak to. Of course,I didn't have this and the message said the person isn't available then hung me up.

I will have to call tham again on Sunday as I'm working a late night tomorrow.

ianch99 10-12-2021 19:45

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36105108)
Not really, Ian. But VM will be closing their copper landline network and if you want to continue taking VM phone services, you'll be forced down this route if you have a Hub 3/Hub 4.

There are downsides of IP telephony should you have a power failure at home. I can maintain my Hub 4 for a couple of hours via my UPS if I'm frugal with other stuff attached to it. But then there's always the iphone or equivalent.

Btw, I made my report here because so little is said about telephony and modem mode.

That's really interesting, thanks for your perspective. I now have a Hub 5 so I am guessing that this also has the VOIP option.

BenMcr 10-12-2021 20:18

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Not currently which is why anyone with the Hub based line haven't been on the invite list, but it will do before the full launch

Sephiroth 10-12-2021 21:38

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36105144)
That's really interesting, thanks for your perspective. I now have a Hub 5 so I am guessing that this also has the VOIP option.

Thew rear of the Hub 5 is identical with the Hub 4. Picture at https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...nd-router.html - but then you know this. You call VM support, give them the necessary details and they'll activate the telephone port.

The Hub 5 should have been supplied with an adaptor to fit the RJ11 cable that a landline phone has. Then hook up you landline phone and bingo.

BenMcr 10-12-2021 21:42

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36105162)
Thew rear of the Hub 5 is identical with the Hub 4. Picture at https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...nd-router.html - but then you know this. You call VM support, give them the necessary details and they'll activate the telephone port.

The Hub 5 should have been supplied with an adaptor to fit the RJ11 cable that a landline phone has. Then hook up you landline phone and bingo.

Hub 5 doesn't yet work with the 21CV service. No-one on it should have been sent a Hub 5 and anyone with a Hub 5 won't be offered a swap to 21CV yet.

Sephiroth 10-12-2021 22:05

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36105163)
Hub 5 doesn't yet work with the 21CV service. No-one on it should have been sent a Hub 5 and anyone with a Hub 5 won't be offered a swap to 21CV yet.

Well, well, well. Good job Ben picked up on this. But I am surprised; seems regressive.

BenMcr 10-12-2021 22:42

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It's temporary but one of the reasons why the Hub 5 is still invite only. When it goes on general release it will work with 21cv

j0s0r 24-12-2021 18:06

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Upgraded to the 1 gig. The speeds are shit, normally I use modem mode and noticed that the speeds wasn't as fast as it should be, just put it in router mode to do the samknows speedtest.

Did another today and the download speed is terrible.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/12/9.jpg

This is my current speedtest direct from the gateway.
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/12/10.jpg

General Maximus 24-12-2021 18:34

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
that's telling you that you are physically receiving 1gbit to your property and the shub. The speed reduction and problem lies within your network and your own equipment after the shub so you need to be looking at network cables, the nics on your client and the throughput on any intermediate switches and routers.

As an example, I knew my old Asus router would max out at 740mbits so I bought a new one which gives me 940+.

adduxi 27-12-2021 13:14

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36106991)
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As an example, I knew my old Asus router would max out at 740mbits so I bought a new one which gives me 940+.

Yes, same boat here as my existing Draytek has a max WAN throughput of 300MB. The newer version caps at 2.4GB, so an upgrade is due at some point.

Sephiroth 27-12-2021 15:20

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by adduxi (Post 36107125)
Yes, same boat here as my existing Draytek has a max WAN throughput of 300MB. The newer version caps at 2.4GB, so an upgrade is due at some point.

Would you be able to game the NI Protocol by choosing best price/value as between shipped from GB or shipped from Eire?

If I had 1Gig router woes (as I did two years ago), I'd get my new router immediately. In my case, I got a good as new router from ebay - mind you, not 2.5Gig. I don't have any serious LAN traffic so, for now, I don't need that.


adduxi 29-12-2021 14:26

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36107141)
Would you be able to game the NI Protocol by choosing best price/value as between shipped from GB or shipped from Eire?


Unfortunately the newer Draytek expects the BT (in my case) to be Ethernet, i.e from the ONT. However as I'm still waiting for FTTP this newer Router is no go at the moment. They do a lower model for FTTC & VM but it caps out at 900mb.

Yes the Protocol, I don't think it would make much difference either way, as I can just drive over the border and buy in Euros. The exchange rate would have the sway on price when buying. The protocol has made no difference to me for buying anything in general.


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