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muppetman11 06-09-2016 20:11
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Sky Q uses those tuners for streaming to minis and tablets if VM enable cloud recording as speculated many times on here they clearly don't need all those tuners as multiroom boxes , tablets and smartphones would just stream your show from the cloud or am I missing something.

Sky went down this route because it's TV users have varying broadband connections , those on really slow ADSL lines would struggle with cloud recordings.

passingbat 06-09-2016 21:08
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35858022)
Sky Q uses those tuners for streaming to minis and tablets if VM enable cloud recording as speculated many times on here they clearly don't need all those tuners as multiroom boxes , tablets and smartphones would just stream your show from the cloud or am I missing something.

Sky went down this route because it's TV users have varying broadband connections , those on really slow ADSL lines would struggle with cloud recordings.

People are guessing about everything; without more details, which are not likely to be released for while, it's pretty pointless IMHO.

denphone 06-09-2016 21:17
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
But speculation makes this forum go around so why stop the speculation now PB.:)

Jong1 06-09-2016 21:50
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35858022)
Sky Q uses those tuners for streaming to minis and tablets if VM enable cloud recording as speculated many times on here they clearly don't need all those tuners as multiroom boxes , tablets and smartphones would just stream your show from the cloud or am I missing something.

Sky went down this route because it's TV users have varying broadband connections , those on really slow ADSL lines would struggle with cloud recordings.
Or (also) because it is impossible to get rights holders to agree to cloud based PVRs?

I'd like to be proved wrong but I very much doubt Virgin has the clout to get agreement to that.

passingbat 06-09-2016 22:26
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35858037)
But speculation makes this forum go around so why stop the speculation now PB.:)

Speculation is fine. But some people seem to be moaning about things they haven't yet seen or used yet. Makes no sense to me.

OLD BOY 07-09-2016 08:37
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35858052)
Speculation is fine. But some people seem to be moaning about things they haven't yet seen or used yet. Makes no sense to me.
Well, passingbat, I hope what has been said on here about the UI being the same as the existing speculation is indeed speculative.

Stephen 07-09-2016 08:48
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The new box will have the same UI. That is not speculation.

denphone 07-09-2016 09:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35858052)
Speculation is fine. But some people seem to be moaning about things they haven't yet seen or used yet. Makes no sense to me.
Remember you are on a forum where moaning is part of the DNA of some of its members.;)

passingbat 07-09-2016 10:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35858093)
Well, passingbat, I hope what has been said on here about the UI being the same as the existing speculation is indeed speculative.
As someone who only use the PVR functionality, I see wrong with the current UI. I don't need pretty pictures.

Jong1 07-09-2016 10:47
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Yeah, I'm sure some people were happy with text only UI's on older STBs and older UIs still, going all the way back. Trouble is new buyers expect something slicker, something more like the phone in their pocket and simply can't get their heads around ancient tech.

I had the same discussion 18 months ago, before Sky Q was announced (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...postcount=2467). Now, after Sky Q, Virgin is once again playing catch up.

OLD BOY 07-09-2016 18:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35858107)
As someone who only use the PVR functionality, I see wrong with the current UI. I don't need pretty pictures.
I think you meant 'nothing wrong'.

However, I just see old fashioned and I am not impressed. This will not help to placate existing customers or attract new ones, I'm afraid.

passingbat 07-09-2016 19:15
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35858177)
I think you meant 'nothing wrong'.

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You're right; by the time I noticed it, it was too late to edit. I posted in a hurry with no time to check.



Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35858177)
However, I just see old fashioned and I am not impressed. This will not help to placate existing customers or attract new ones, I'm afraid.

It concerns me that people seem to need pretty pictures these days. Given this a temporary step until the Horizon software arrives, why would they spend money re-vamping the interface, given that the functionality is still there? The interface is perfectly adequate, and if people make their provider decision on 'prettiness of the interface' over functionality, then more fool them.

Jong1 07-09-2016 20:27
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I say this as a 28 year customer of Virgin and it's predecessors and real evangelist for TiVo back in the day, but that is really complacent.

Virgin comes up short not just on looks but hugely on content. On functionality Sky have caught up and now that, even, is a wash. Having just switched to Sky Q (but stuck with Virgin 200mb/s BB) there are a lot of things I prefer. The ability to watch all content, recorded and on demand on any screen, tablet or extra TV, is great. About the only thing I miss so far from TiVo is the ability to configure series links, e.g. to only keep 2 episodes. Hardly a winning differentiator on its own!

So if people are meant to wait for Horizon, which isn't itself going to be truly 'better', I think it's dark days for Virgin TV, at least at the premium end.

passingbat 07-09-2016 20:51
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jong1 (Post 35858212)
I say this as a 28 year customer of Virgin and it's predecessors and real evangelist for TiVo back in the day, but that is really complacent.

Virgin comes up short not just on looks but hugely on content. On functionality Sky have caught up and now that, even, is a wash. Having just switched to Sky Q (but stuck with Virgin 200mb/s BB) there are a lot of things I prefer. The ability to watch all content, recorded and on demand on any screen, tablet or extra TV, is great. About the only thing I miss so far from TiVo is the ability to configure series links, e.g. to only keep 2 episodes. Hardly a winning differentiator on its own!

So if people are meant to wait for Horizon, which isn't itself going to be truly 'better', I think it's dark days for Virgin TV, at least at the premium end.

The new box is the VM update equivalent to Sky Q; only a few months behind Sky Q.


Apart from trialists, who are under NDA, no one knows the functionality of the new box. If the functionality of the new box hasn't improved and is not similar to that of Sky Q, then there is reason to complain.


But why are people, who know nothing about it's functionality, judging it before it is released?


And moaning about it's appearance and interface, is rather like 'judging a book by it's cover', which we all know, is not a wise thing to do.

1andrew1 07-09-2016 21:52
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35858215)
The new box is the VM update equivalent to Sky Q; only a few months behind Sky Q.

Apart from trialists, who are under NDA, no one knows the functionality of the new box. If the functionality of the new box hasn't improved and is not similar to that of Sky Q, then there is reason to complain.

But why are people, who know nothing about its functionality, judging it before it is released?

And moaning about its appearance and interface, is rather like 'judging a book by its cover', which we all know, is not a wise thing to do.
I too find it strange that people are getting very negative over how they imagine the box will perform. Just wait till it's released then criticise or praise it. And if you truly desire the functionality of Sky Q now - then do as others here have done - get Sky Q and enjoy it.


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