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Re: Ban the burkha ?

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35008146)

But you don't 'answer' anything..you make pointless ambiguous comments that seem to indicate that you don't like Muslims and then when finally pushed to it seem to disavow all that you have said up to that point..I'm not playing that game anymore and I suggest everyone else makes a vow not to be suckered in either.

Yes Maggy. :rolleyes:

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Nice to see you admitting what Maggy stated - good for you.

I bet you feel better getting that off your chest.....

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35008186)

Nice to see you admitting what Maggy stated - good for you.

I bet you feel better getting that off your chest.....

Would you know if this vow thing needs a man of the cloth present or not?

Re: Ban the burkha ?

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35007985)

I wear glasses to drive because I'm very short sighted.However they could be said to cut down on my peripheral vision..and I choose to wear very large frames..could it be argued that wearing the present fashionable narrow frame glasses cut down even more peripheral vision..and where does one end with the banning of things?

We will be banning flat caps next...:D

I too am short sighted Maggy and need glasses when I'm driving, the difference here is that glasses are an aid to driving not an impediment.
I like to think that on the whole I am a fairly liberal person with a live and let live attitude, and as I have said in a previous post my disdain for the burka is based on its misogynistic overtones, as I believe this garment is a choice many men make for "their" women to wear. I've no doubt that there are some women who do choose to wear this, but for the ones that don't is it right that in a liberal democracy we throw our hands in the air for fear of offending the very vocal minority.
As for the driving argument the small frame example is irrelevant, a persons peripheral vision is not restricted by these glasses so short-sighted or not you'd still have peripheral vision, something you certainly wouldn't have with a full-faced burka or any other headwear that encased your entire head leaving only a slit for vision.
Is it not madness to be arguing whether a person should be free to drive a half-ton hunk of metal down the street potentially being a danger to all, just so as "they" can observe their religion by wearing a garment that obviously hinders vision?
IMO its precisely stories like these that lose the progressives the argument, and credibility, when it comes to everyday moderate mainstream Muslim issues that so many of our hateful tabloids like to exploit.
There is a time when the overall public good comes before an individuals religious right to engage in an activity that is detrimental to the majority.

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I believe the law here is clear, in that if you are driving with your vision impared you are breaking the law.
However, you actually have to be driving with your vision impared, not just under the impression of maybe having your vision impared.
As someone who has worn shemaghs to keep out the desert sand, peripheral vision isn't affected.

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[QUOTE=Ignitionnet;35007939]You aren't from the States are you? That was one they probably tried for a while along with Al Qaeda and Saddam

Get around don't they!!!

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No - that was the problem with that proposition.

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34947483)

How many women in the UK actually wear a Bhurka or veil? According to the link posted it's 200,000. Wiki says there's around 2.4,000,000 Muslims in the UK, so that would mean 1 in 6 muslim women wear a bhurka or veil. Frankly, I find that hard to believe.

I mean, it's not as if women in Bhurkas are a common sight. Not around here anyway.

Visit the Midlands. They are commonplace here.

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It depends on your definition of the burkha too.

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Originally Posted by Marydoll (Post 35008479)

Visit the Midlands. They are commonplace here.

Or Bolton, Oldham, Rochdale to name a few more where you can see a lot in certain areas.

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I was out shopping today, and l had two females standing behind me, and my god, l had to move as the aroma, from them was appalling. I give and take in this life, but my god.

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Would banning burkhas fix that? Or would we be better off passing a law forcing people to spray on some Right Guard in the morning?

Or maybe Far Right Guard? :scratch:

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I personal don't give a crap what people wear in pulblic, I do feel that in high security areas and banks/building sociaties they should be banned.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35008532)

I personal don't give a crap what people wear in pulblic, I do feel that in high security areas and banks/building sociaties they should be banned.

Exactly the can be no excuses where security is involved.

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don't allow the wearing of the Burkha in places where all other types of head gear is not allowed.