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RichardCoulter 20-10-2017 15:01
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35920937)
It was, but it doesn't really matter. A throwaway comment made by a minister can easily be taken out of context by a forum member and used to support their view of how things should happen. A mandatory switch to DVB-T2 would require funding from the Government, he didn't reveal any plans to do that. As things stand, the Government are quite happy to avoid funding a mandatory conversion and to leave the decision to the broadcasters. The Government would probably prefer to auction off the entire UHF broadcasting spectrum to mobile operators at the earliest opportunity. The uncertain long term viability of the platform will hold back funding from the Government and from commercial operators.

Arqiva don't feel that the time is right to convert the commercial DTT multiplexes to DVB-T2 and there's little chance of it happening until they are ready. They will keep the temporary multiplexes running for as long as they are allowed. Unfortunately, when the temporary multiplexes close and these low budget channels are faced with the cost of financing carriage on a national multiplex, I fear we may well see a few departures from DTT.

The local SD channels are already there on TS ID 101 for the BBC. I can't see VM setting up 16 additional SD streams for a few minutes each day on a national transport stream. In any event, switching would be clunky and horrible, switching between screen resolutions and between streams which are out of sync with each other by several seconds.

With a lot of coding and a vast amount of wasted bandwidth if they were to follow your idea. There would still be fairly large areas switched to the wrong local channel. Where a regional network carries overlapping BBC regions there is no easy way of knowing which is the correct region for an individual viewer.

Just let the viewer select the appropriate channel. The BBC put the annoying red slate up for a reason, to prompt the viewer to change channel.
I was surprised to learn that it was Arqiva that had encouraged the Government to clear 700MHZ/switch off the temporary muxes earlier than planned. I wondered why they would, at face value, shoot themselves in the foot and lose the additional revenue earlier than planned! Turns out that Arqiva also have their fingers in the mobile phone pie too...

I'm sure you're right and the Government would love to flog the whole of the spectrum to mobile phone operators. Maybe this could be feasible with the advent of Freesat (along with commercial availabilities like VM and Sky)?

I think that Freesat has better coverage than Freeview, it has much more bandwidth available for more channels (and in HD too) than Freeview could ever offer.

A radical move like this would appeal to a Conservative Government as it would help commercial entities like VM & Sky, (whilst still offering a non profit and better alternative to Freeview). It would bring cash into the public coffers and could pay for any enforced switchover for various groups.

The Thatcher administration presumed that satellite would be the future and not DTT and more TV's seem to be having a satellite tuner included as standard.

Well, if these new services aren't for local radio or local TV inserts (I am now more inclined to think they would be for the latter), I really don't know!

I can't imagine a plethora of extra TV channels coming (and, as you say, they're in an unusual place for this), plus why the code names??

People have suggested Pop Max and Freesports, but, other than some of the low budget niche channels on Sky, I don't think that there's anything else to add apart from Sky Atlantic.

Maybe the huge amount of apps that Cindy Rose promised are about to arrive? Are apps added and 'broadcast' in the same way as linear TV channels? I'd have thought that they wouldn't be and that they just prompted the TiVo to connect to the internet and take an online feed instead, but you'll know better than me.

RichardCoulter 20-10-2017 19:17
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35920026)
LOTS of people. (Including me, as it happens)
Interesting that, despite your job with TiVo on VM, you don't have a PVR. This reminds me of a late friend who taught computing at a university.

When I first visited him at his home, I said that I was surprised that he didn't have a computer of his own. He replied "don't you think I see enough of the things at work all day, without having one at home as well" :D

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Because we are now getting the Asian channels temporarily for free, some of their programmes are appearing in my planned recordings.

As TiVo knows that I like horror films, it's tending to pick up a lot of this genre.

I'm surprised that the Asian channels are showing material like this as their religions tend to frown upon anything of a supernatural nature (I know some won't be religious, but most that I know purport to be so to various extents).

I might even watch some of them out of interest; anyone know what will happen when it's in Planned Recordings and VM encrypt the channels again?

Think I'll give the film about a man who married a tree a miss though :D. These foreign channels do show some odd things!

spiderplant 20-10-2017 20:05
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921030)
Interesting that, despite your job with TiVo on VM, you don't have a PVR.
I'm just not a big TV watcher. I could happily live without it (in fact I did for several years).

Obviously I have loads of PVRs at work.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921030)
anyone know what will happen when it's in Planned Recordings and VM encrypt the channels again?
You'll be able to watch them. The "can't watch after unsubscribing" restriction only applies to Sky-owned channels.

RichardCoulter 20-10-2017 21:00
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I meant for programmes that TiVo has placed into Planned Recordings into the future after the free period ends.

Will they simply be placed into Recording Hiccups?

spiderplant 20-10-2017 21:04
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921072)
I meant for programmes that TiVo has placed into Planned Recordings into the future after the free period ends.

Will they simply be placed into Recording Hiccups?
Oh I see. Yes, they'll fail and go into Hiccups

RichardCoulter 20-10-2017 22:13
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Cheers SP, I think I'll go in and delete the ones after the freeview ends.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35920859)
I didn't go to bed in the end as my head was hurting, so put the TV on. At exactly 6am all TV & BB went down. I tried a reboot, but it came up with a channels loading bar that stuck at 16%. Probably cos the BB was down; the V6 must need the internet to populate the EPG.

I rang VM to tell them about it, press 1, press, 2 etc and entered my password. Only at that point did it tell me they were closed until 8am grrrrrr. It was at that point that I really decided that it was time for bed :D

One thing that makes me doubt my own theory is why all the coded names? BBC local radio is hardly earth shattering :D. Maybe they are to follow Sky and use codes all the time to frustrate the likes of us!

Also, ViLoR isn't infallible:

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2017/09/eig...s-fall-silent/

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Sorry, I said the Tune-In app earlier, it's actually the Radioline app as you say.

All the national stations are also available in the app, as well as on the EPG.

Being on the EPG would enable us to record, set series links, set reminders etc.



Good thinking John and maybe this is why the services are being added piecemeal.

There are currently 15 local BBC1's (the three Nations are already HD) and BBC2 Scotland (the only difference is the last 20 minutes of Newsnight)

This makes a total of 16!

Only the other week, the Points Of View programme answered a viewers question about the time being taken to roll out the regional variations in HD. They said that budgetary constraints had led to them having to use "imaginative ways" to carry out the task.

Maybe they meant that it will be delivered over the internet??

The use of codes may be that they want to keep it secret before making a formal announcement for all platforms.
For completeness, this is what was actually said about upgrading the BBC regions to HD and the possible use of the internet as a solution:

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Viewers in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales who watch the BBC One HD channel get everything in glorious HD. But when it comes to their local news, viewers in England are confronted with a red holding screen and instruction to switch to BBC One Standard Definition.
So why are the English regions the poor cousins to the nations when it comes to high-definition?

BBC STATEMENT

"This is a really tricky issue for the BBC. We obviously want to give our audiences the best possible experience and not having Regional news content on BBC One HD is a problem, given that our 6.30pm bulletins are the most watched news programmes in the UK. We know it doesn’t bother all of our audiences, but many viewers find it inconvenient to switch to BBC One SD and that bothers us.

The problem remains one of money. There are 15 regional versions of BBC One across England and the Channel Islands. Most of those 15 BBC One’s originate from Regional studios that are not yet fully HD and upgrading Regional news output is a priority for investment. To then take 15 BBC One’s to air in both HD and SD on all platforms would cost the equivalent of a third of the annual editorial budget for regional TV bulletins. So we have to balance our plans with the best interests of the licence fee payer and try to find creative solutions. And we mustn’t forget BBC Two viewers in the Nations also experience a similar issue.

In a world where two thirds of homes have their main TV connected to the internet, we could look to the internet to provide local content in HD. Alternatively we might find a way for audiences to move more conveniently between HD and SD. We will address this problem one way or the other, but we don’t want to take money away from other BBC services if we can possibly avoid it.

In the meantime, the vast majority of the BBC’s content is available free to air to audiences in HD across all platforms and directly over the internet on BBC iPlayer, which is generally included by default within internet-connectable TVs and set-top boxes and with the added benefits of live restart and 30 days to watch programmes as standard."

BBC Spokesperson

Aguero9320 20-10-2017 22:27
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How do I go about finding hidden and scanning channels on a TiVo or a V HD box as I have both.

RichardCoulter 20-10-2017 22:37
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Apparently, Spike is to be rebranded as 5Spike.

jj20x 21-10-2017 00:32
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921078)
For completeness, this is what was actually said about upgrading the BBC regions to HD and the possible use of the internet as a solution:
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Alternatively we might find a way for audiences to move more conveniently between HD and SD. We will address this problem one way or the other, but we don’t want to take money away from other BBC services if we can possibly avoid it.
The "alternative" is the problem, how to trigger a change of channel from a regional HD channel to a local SD channel.

Being regional, the HD channel data won't be aware of the correct local SD channel. On Freeview, BBC Red Button channel 250 attempts to switch to BBC 1 SD when the red button is pressed on that channel. It does that by searching through a list of BBC 1 SD SID numbers and switches the tv to the first matching entry found in the list of channels stored on the tv. Where the tv has stored services from multiple transmitter sites, the chances are that the channel selected won't be the correct local channel for the viewer. If BBC One HD sends a signal to initiate that sort of switch when regional content is shown, it would certainly remove the need to manually change channel, at least as far as DTT is concerned. The trouble is, many viewers would find that they had been switched to the news report for an adjacent region, or even be faced with a "no signal" message if reception for the auto-selected region is poor.

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35921094)
How do I go about finding hidden and scanning channels on a TiVo or a V HD box as I have both.
Ummm... you don't.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921095)
Apparently, Spike is to be rebranded as 5Spike.
If Channel 5 promotional material is to believed. I suppose it is fair enough in terms of branding and marketing but I think "Spike" sounds better.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35920998)
Maybe the huge amount of apps that Cindy Rose promised are about to arrive? Are apps added and 'broadcast' in the same way as linear TV channels? I'd have thought that they wouldn't be and that they just prompted the TiVo to connect to the internet and take an online feed instead, but you'll know better than me.
Apps don't have to be added to the DVB SI tables at all. There could be well be a huge amount of apps coming soon, without any link to the EPG. Don't hold your breath though. :p:

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921030)
Think I'll give the film about a man who married a tree a miss though :D. These foreign channels do show some odd things!
Reminds me of a Belgian guy I once knew who named himself after a tree and wanted to have several wives. Although I don't think he actually wanted his many wives to be trees. :shocked:

RichardCoulter 21-10-2017 01:00
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:D :D :D

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions; and yes, I think that Spike does sound better too!

cheekyangus 21-10-2017 09:59
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I think the Spike rebrand will just be transitional so that viewers realise it is part of the Channel 5 family.

I suspect it was partly instigated by the Spike channel in the US being rebranded. It's going to be be called The Paramount Network apparently. As some will remember Comedy Central UK used to be called Paramount Comedy Channel.

RichardCoulter 21-10-2017 13:44
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Well, it's been speculated that Viacom will rebrand one of their existing channels in order to bring Paramount to the UK.

I guess this development probably rules out Spike being used for this purpose. You'd think that one of the +1's would be used, but it was Viacom that reintroduced 5* +1 after Dirty Desmond dropped it to launch 5+ 24 (now My5)??

@ jj20x, been told that TS 44 is not present in the Manchester area, don't know if that info is of any use to you!

Also, despite being in HD, BBC Wales still get their local news in SD!! Someone working in the industry has said that this is due to be remedied in the first quarter of 2019; a further setback to my calculations/theory :D

Work to make the BBC1 NI newsroom HD is now complete, so it looks like BBC1 NI will be going fully HD in the near future.

How do VM treat the BBC1 HD Nations on the EPG? Have they swapped them with the SD variants to make them more accessible to viewers?

jj20x 21-10-2017 15:19
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921177)
@ jj20x, been told that TS 44 is not present in the Manchester area, don't know if that info is of any use to you!
No use at all as it isn't correct. TS ID 44 is a national transport stream, available on all of VMs regional networks. Assuming that you were actually told that the test services aren't present on TS ID 44 in the Manchester areas, that would be correct. As I said previously, NIT analysis shows that only one of the test services has currently been added to the NIT and only on 4 internal VM networks.

I received updated scan data this morning but it raises even more questions and no answers, so I'll borrow a DNP order from MB until I get the next scan update. :D

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Also, despite being in HD, BBC Wales still get their local news in SD!! Someone working in the industry has said that this is due to be remedied in the first quarter of 2019; a further setback to my calculations/theory :D
Upscaled SD, yes. It wouldn't really be prudent to upgrade the old news studio when they are about to relocate to new premises.

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How do VM treat the BBC1 HD Nations on the EPG? Have they swapped them with the SD variants to make them more accessible to viewers?
Same as the English version, with no EPG swap.

RichardCoulter 21-10-2017 17:57
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Cheers.

RichardCoulter 21-10-2017 20:19
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Heart TV temporarily rebrands to Heart Xmas from 1/11/17.

On the same date QVC Extra is said to be temporarily rebranding to QVC Christmas, however, Ofcom have received an application to change the name from QVC Extra to QVC Style.

Suggests to me that it will be QVC Extra--->QVC Christmas--->QVC Style.

Euronews is to be renamed Euronews NBC following its purchase by NBC.

Mad Max 21-10-2017 20:47
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921253)
Heart TV temporarily rebrands to Heart Xmas from 1/11/17.

On the same date QVC Extra is said to be temporarily rebranding to QVC Christmas, however, Ofcom have received an application to change the name from QVC Extra to QVC Style.

Suggests to me that it will be QVC Extra--->QVC Christmas--->QVC Style.

Euronews is to be renamed Euronews NBC following its purchase by NBC.
Richard, seriously, no disrespect mate, but do you really think anyone gives a **** about those channels?

RichardCoulter 21-10-2017 22:03
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35921259)
Richard, seriously, no disrespect mate, but do you really think anyone gives a **** about those channels?
Well, I don't watch any of them myself, but thought i'd give the heads up for anyone that does.

I think that the only channels that people are really bothered about are UHD, Sky Atlantic, Freesports and possibly MTV Classics (that was removed in 2010) and maybe GOLD HD.

We have virtually everything now Max.

theone2k10 21-10-2017 22:58
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Insight tv to launch on vm as a UHD channel in 2018, no exact date given at this time.

OLD BOY 22-10-2017 00:23
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921275)
Insight tv to launch on vm as a UHD channel in 2018, no exact date given at this time.
About time! Let's hope it doesn't stop there.

Raider999 22-10-2017 10:22
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921275)
Insight tv to launch on vm as a UHD channel in 2018, no exact date given at this time.
That's the clincher, I will start saving for the UHD tv replacement, not!

Nice to hear VM is finally catching up with the rest of the world, just need them to get football, rugby etc in UHD.

RichardCoulter 22-10-2017 13:26
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I bet that Sky would withold this from VM, though the changing market could mean UHD sport becoming available from other suppliers...

andrewbrown 22-10-2017 14:33
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35921259)
Richard, seriously, no disrespect mate, but do you really think anyone gives a **** about those channels?
That's harsh. Do you only want to read rumours about channels you are interested in? Perhaps we should rename the thread "restricted coming soon". And then to say "no disrespect" but then to givea totally disrespectful reply was uncalled for. :confused:

Mad Max 22-10-2017 17:40
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Originally Posted by andrewbrown (Post 35921366)
That's harsh. Do you only want to read rumours about channels you are interested in? Perhaps we should rename the thread "restricted coming soon". And then to say "no disrespect" but then to givea totally disrespectful reply was uncalled for. :confused:
Read it again, I did not disrespect him, and for your info, I'd be surprised anyone is interested in that dross, and the continuing dross that seems to be coming.

jj20x 22-10-2017 20:10
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921219)
Cheers.
You're welcome, my reply was a bit brief but I only had a few minutes to reply before going out.

Basically, the NIT analysis shows details of all networks except ex-NTL Langley regions. I was told a while ago that ex-NTL Langley details can also be made available. The NIT analysis is quite memory intensive with the number of calculations used for the 68 network data already available, so adding the extra networks would slow the whole process down at the moment.

Manchester data is already included in the analysis and, in any event, the digitalbitrate.com data for VM is for Manchester 3, even though it is listed as "Liverpool". Their scan data for TS ID 44 is available here: http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C059

I was reluctant to post any details revealed by the previous SDT analysis as it related to pack data and the details added were incomplete. A later scan shows that most of the "test" services now have pack flags for all packs except "Player". One of the tests still didn't have any pack flags added.

No further tests had been added to the NIT, so 15 of them remain SDT only. They still carried the entertainment flags and service mode 1 (which is "digital television service"). Bear in mind that VM also uses service mode 1 for EPG linked apps so that doesn't really give any clues.

So the test services remain a mystery.

In other news, an SDT linkage section has been added for SID 4406 VTV Kids. This allows the VTV Kids slot to promote individual kids channels. Currently showing "Tiny Pop". Check the EPG to see what else will be shown and when. (Mad Max probably won't bother doing this. :D )

Media Boy UK 23-10-2017 12:48
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35921462)
In other news, an SDT linkage section has been added for SID 4406 VTV Kids. This allows the VTV Kids slot to promote individual kids channels. Currently showing "Tiny Pop". Check the EPG to see what else will be shown and when. (Mad Max probably won't bother doing this. :D )
Up until Sunday VTV Kids are broadcasting an channel for 24 hours from 6am to 6am:

Today - Boomerang
Tuesday - Cartoonito
Wednesday - POP
Thursday - Cartoon Network
Friday - Nick
Saturday - Tiny Pop
Sunday - Cartoon Network

RichardCoulter 23-10-2017 15:19
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Pl
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35921462)
You're welcome, my reply was a bit brief but I only had a few minutes to reply before going out.

Basically, the NIT analysis shows details of all networks except ex-NTL Langley regions. I was told a while ago that ex-NTL Langley details can also be made available. The NIT analysis is quite memory intensive with the number of calculations used for the 68 network data already available, so adding the extra networks would slow the whole process down at the moment.

Manchester data is already included in the analysis and, in any event, the digitalbitrate.com data for VM is for Manchester 3, even though it is listed as "Liverpool". Their scan data for TS ID 44 is available here: http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C059

I was reluctant to post any details revealed by the previous SDT analysis as it related to pack data and the details added were incomplete. A later scan shows that most of the "test" services now have pack flags for all packs except "Player". One of the tests still didn't have any pack flags added.

No further tests had been added to the NIT, so 15 of them remain SDT only. They still carried the entertainment flags and service mode 1 (which is "digital television service"). Bear in mind that VM also uses service mode 1 for EPG linked apps so that doesn't really give any clues.

So the test services remain a mystery.

In other news, an SDT linkage section has been added for SID 4406 VTV Kids. This allows the VTV Kids slot to promote individual kids channels. Currently showing "Tiny Pop". Check the EPG to see what else will be shown and when. (Mad Max probably won't bother doing this. :D )
That's ok, the time and trouble that you go to to provide this information is extremely helpful and appreciated as it is.

This further information is actually very helpful, because I think it blows my theory out of the water. If these were for BBC local radio or local news inserts, they'd be available on the free M/Player pack because all radio and PSB channels are. I think that everyone also gets apps, so it probably isn't for those either.

Maybe they are adding more Asian channels to compete with the new Sky arrangement for these?? Doubt that there are 14 though, so maybe Freesports is coming after all. As for SA, i'd have thought that would be in XL/Full House due to the cost, but in theory it's just another non premium Sky channel and should be in M+/Mix TV.

RichardCoulter 23-10-2017 18:40
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921273)
Well, I don't watch any of them myself, but thought i'd give the heads up for anyone that does.

I think that the only channels that people are really bothered about are UHD, Sky Atlantic, Freesports and possibly MTV Classics (that was removed in 2010) and maybe GOLD HD.

We have virtually everything now Max.
Forgot about History HD and CI HD.

Raider999 23-10-2017 19:44
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921553)
Forgot about History HD and CI HD.
Premier Sports in HD (like sky) would be nice.

ITV Encore

Aguero9320 23-10-2017 20:41
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I'd like to see Sky Atlantic, AMC, FreeSports, Pop Max, MTV Classic, Chart Show TV, Chart Show Hits and Scuzz.

It'll probably be JML, CNC World and Holiday & Cruise knowing VM, followed by a £5 price rise.

Barriescott 23-10-2017 21:29
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And that is when I return to sky they don’t listen to the paying customer at all especially with the prospect of the loss of bt sports

RichardCoulter 23-10-2017 21:43
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35921558)
Premier Sports in HD (like sky) would be nice.

ITV Encore
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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35921562)
I'd like to see Sky Atlantic, AMC, FreeSports, Pop Max, MTV Classic, Chart Show TV, Chart Show Hits and Scuzz.

It'll probably be JML, CNC World and Holiday & Cruise knowing VM, followed by a £5 price rise.
Hmmm, when you take into account all the various channels that could still be added, this could quite easily add up to 16.

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Originally Posted by Barriescott (Post 35921569)
And that is when I return to sky they don’t listen to the paying customer at all especially with the prospect of the loss of bt sports
Tbf that's not a certainly, at least not yet.

1andrew1 23-10-2017 21:48
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Originally Posted by Barriescott (Post 35921569)
And that is when I return to sky they don’t listen to the paying customer at all especially with the prospect of the loss of bt sports
Every channel could potentially be lost apart from the PSBs. I wouldn't pay any particular attention to this rumour as such key deals are known only once the deals are done or not done, not months in advance!

jj20x 24-10-2017 02:00
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921528)
...they'd be available on the free M/Player pack...
It might be worth noting that M and Player aren't the same. Flags were present for the largely obsolete M Pack but not for the Player Pack, which seems a little odd.

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As for SA, i'd have thought that would be in XL/Full House due to the cost, but in theory it's just another non premium Sky channel and should be in M+/Mix TV.
Sky channels have their own unique combination of flags in the SDT and the test channels did not have any of those flags on the last scan data.

OLD BOY 24-10-2017 08:29
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35921558)
Premier Sports in HD (like sky) would be nice.

ITV Encore
Agreed, although it's fair to say that a lot of material on ITV Encore is also on ITV Collections in the on demand section. Not the new stuff, though, but there is very little of anything but repeats on that channel.

Media Boy UK 24-10-2017 12:56
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Radio Times has confirm that 'Spike' will become known as '5 Spike' on October 31st.

theone2k10 24-10-2017 14:00
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VM want to make their online tv player available to none vm customers with a seperate subscription.
More info as i get it although i suspect this is a wind up.

OLD BOY 24-10-2017 14:13
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921682)
VM want to make their online tv player available to none vm customers with a seperate subscription.
More info as i get it although i suspect this is a wind up.
Maybe a wind up, but if VM is going to concentrate on more Virgin exclusives (which don't come cheap) it would make sense for them to recoup this money as best they can.

I am currently watching 'Good Behavior', which is entertaining. My wife loves it. These exclusives are in danger of being missed by many, tucked away as they are in the on demand section, so it was a good move on their part to add this to 'My Shows'! What I'd call an elegant solution.

denphone 24-10-2017 14:19
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921688)
Maybe a wind up, but if VM is going to concentrate on more Virgin exclusives (which don't come cheap) it would make sense for them to recoup this money as best they can.

I am currently watching 'Good Behavior', which is entertaining. My wife loves it. These exclusives are in danger of being missed by many, tucked away as they are in the on demand section, so it was a good move on their part to add this to 'My Shows'! What I'd call an elegant solution.
l can safely tell you my OH did not miss it OB.:)

RichardCoulter 24-10-2017 14:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35921606)
It might be worth noting that M and Player aren't the same. Flags were present for the largely obsolete M Pack but not for the Player Pack, which seems a little odd.

Sky channels have their own unique combination of flags in the SDT and the test channels did not have any of those flags on the last scan data.
It is odd that the old M pack is flagged, but not the newer Player pack.

Ahhh, so it looks like these tests aren't for any missing Sky channels. I think that there's only Sky Atlantic, Pick +1 and Sky One +1 missing now. Have I missed any wholly owned Sky channels? Wasn't there a travel and a poker channel too?

---------- Post added at 13:24 ---------- Previous post was at 13:20 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35921688)
Maybe a wind up, but if VM is going to concentrate on more Virgin exclusives (which don't come cheap) it would make sense for them to recoup this money as best they can.

I am currently watching 'Good Behavior', which is entertaining. My wife loves it. These exclusives are in danger of being missed by many, tucked away as they are in the on demand section, so it was a good move on their part to add this to 'My Shows'! What I'd call an elegant solution.
They wouldn't want to cannibalise their existing cable subscriber base, but as you say, could recoup some expenditure from offering it to non VM customers, especially in areas not served by cable.

RobboEdin 24-10-2017 15:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921682)
VM want to make their online tv player available to none vm customers with a seperate subscription.
More info as i get it although i suspect this is a wind up.
Perhaps part of what will be delivered with Virgin TV Go next year, as announced in the price increase notifications.

BenMcr 24-10-2017 15:11
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921682)
VM want to make their online tv player available to none vm customers with a seperate subscription.
More info as i get it although i suspect this is a wind up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921690)
They wouldn't want to cannibalise their existing cable subscriber base, but as you say, could recoup some expenditure from offering it to non VM customers, especially in areas not served by cable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35921695)
Perhaps part of what will be delivered with Virgin TV Go next year, as announced in the price increase notifications.
It's possible they're confusing it with the Virgin Media Store - that's TV related but anyone can use the web player and mobile apps.

theone2k10 24-10-2017 16:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35921697)
It's possible they're confusing it with the Virgin Media Store - that's TV related but anyone can use the web player and mobile apps.
Could be Ben, sounds more like it tbh i looked at the store and had options to buy from there and i'm not a vm customer so what you just said probably is what my source was refering too.

RichardCoulter 24-10-2017 22:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921275)
Insight tv to launch on vm as a UHD channel in 2018, no exact date given at this time.
Also possibly Funbox (taken from the UHD thread):

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35921705)
i messaged Funbox last week on face book and got this replie back

" We are looking forward to launching our channels with more platforms in the UK. So far we broadcast two Polish language channels on Virgin Media but not The International Ones "

defo not a NO then
Take it they mean Worldbox??

nodrogd 24-10-2017 23:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35917447)
There is an American cable channel with this name, but it has nothing to do with bikes.

https://www.ridetv.com/
Looks like I was right about this channel. The OFCOM data has now been updated:
http://static.ofcom.org.uk/static/ra...4ba1ridetv.htm

RichardCoulter 25-10-2017 23:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35921697)
It's possible they're confusing it with the Virgin Media Store - that's TV related but anyone can use the web player and mobile apps.
Talking of the VM Store, channel 100 has been renamed Sky One Night.

It has a Red Button for the VM Store, so presumably its main purpose is to promote this.

johnathome 26-10-2017 09:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35921682)
VM want to make their online tv player available to none vm customers with a seperate subscription.
More info as i get it although i suspect this is a wind up.
I'm not so sure though.

When Sky start their online only subscription next year VM will have to do something or risk losing more customers.

It would be cheaper to deliver their services that way instead of laying cables.

RichardCoulter 26-10-2017 14:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35921877)
I'm not so sure though.

When Sky start their online only subscription next year VM will have to do something or risk losing more customers.

It would be cheaper to deliver their services that way instead of laying cables.
I once suggested to a VM employee that VM could offer their service in the same way as the OTT companies in non cabled areas, but was told that VM wish to offer a different alternative to other providers.

OLD BOY 26-10-2017 15:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921926)
I once suggested to a VM employee that VM could offer their service in the same way as the OTT companies in non cabled areas, but was told that VM wish to offer a different alternative to other providers.
That would be good if they could, but they are not covering all of the country by any means. Therefore your suggestion made perfect sense.

Media Boy UK 26-10-2017 17:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35921740)
Also possibly Funbox (taken from the UHD thread):



Take it they mean Worldbox??
Can you post link for that story so MB HQ can work on story for MB Blog. Thanks

RichardCoulter 26-10-2017 18:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35921959)
Can you post link for that story so MB HQ can work on story for MB Blog. Thanks
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...3704518&page=5

Am I correct in thinking that Curzon Cinema was taken off VM (or was it Picturebox?)

If so, they don't seem to be doing so well as they're being taken off Freesat from 27/11/17.

BenMcr 26-10-2017 18:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Twas Picturebox. Curzon is still available

Richc1977 26-10-2017 22:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Liberty Global and TiVo renew agreements

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...ew-agreements/

RichardCoulter 26-10-2017 22:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35922001)
Liberty Global and TiVo renew agreements

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...ew-agreements/
Seems odd to do this if we are still supposed to eventually be going onto the Horizon software.

Inactive Digital 26-10-2017 22:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35922002)
Seems odd to do this if we are still supposed to eventually be going onto the Horizon software.
The deal seems to relate to Tivo's patents, rather then software. I suspect their patented IP is used in Horizon software features.

TiVo was recently bought by Rovi who, a few years back, took Virgin to court (and lost) on several occasions for alleged patent infringement : http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...-patent-battle

RichardCoulter 28-10-2017 18:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35921462)
You're welcome, my reply was a bit brief but I only had a few minutes to reply before going out.

Basically, the NIT analysis shows details of all networks except ex-NTL Langley regions. I was told a while ago that ex-NTL Langley details can also be made available. The NIT analysis is quite memory intensive with the number of calculations used for the 68 network data already available, so adding the extra networks would slow the whole process down at the moment.

Manchester data is already included in the analysis and, in any event, the digitalbitrate.com data for VM is for Manchester 3, even though it is listed as "Liverpool". Their scan data for TS ID 44 is available here: http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=en&mux=C059

I was reluctant to post any details revealed by the previous SDT analysis as it related to pack data and the details added were incomplete. A later scan shows that most of the "test" services now have pack flags for all packs except "Player". One of the tests still didn't have any pack flags added.

No further tests had been added to the NIT, so 15 of them remain SDT only. They still carried the entertainment flags and service mode 1 (which is "digital television service"). Bear in mind that VM also uses service mode 1 for EPG linked apps so that doesn't really give any clues.

So the test services remain a mystery.

In other news, an SDT linkage section has been added for SID 4406 VTV Kids. This allows the VTV Kids slot to promote individual kids channels. Currently showing "Tiny Pop". Check the EPG to see what else will be shown and when. (Mad Max probably won't bother doing this. :D )
Another idea as to what these services could be.

VM are to shortly give us targeted advertising from the Sky owned AdSmart. I wonder if these services are tests to check that this service is working properly??

https://www.skyadsmart.co.uk/about-skyadsmart/

My thinking is that the system might treat each advert as a (very short) pop up channel and this could be why there are no channel names associated with them.

Apparently, AdSmart could also be used as a method to insert local news etc.

Still doesn't explain why they wouldn't be available to M/Player customers though.

nodrogd 29-10-2017 10:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35922275)
Another idea as to what these services could be.

VM are to shortly give us targeted advertising from the Sky owned AdSmart. I wonder if these services are tests to check that this service is working properly??

https://www.skyadsmart.co.uk/about-skyadsmart/

My thinking is that the system might treat each advert as a (very short) pop up channel and this could be why there are no channel names associated with them.

Apparently, AdSmart could also be used as a method to insert local news etc.

Still doesn't explain why they wouldn't be available to M/Player customers though.
Sky boxes have no "upstream" connection except for the internet, so this may likely be the preferred method of delivery on Sky ( I cant see them leaving the NOW TV service out of this) & maybe VM. I also have a sneaky feeling that a small disc partition may appear on the boxes to store these for playout at the relevant times.

As far as M/Player customers, these channels are FTA & hence not strictly part of the Sky platform. Sky cannot interfere with output that is not theirs.

Raider999 29-10-2017 10:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35922364)
Sky boxes have no "upstream" connection except for the internet, so this may likely be the preferred method of delivery on Sky ( I cant see them leaving the NOW TV service out of this) & maybe VM. I also have a sneaky feeling that a small disc partition may appear on the boxes to store these for playout at the relevant times.

As far as M/Player customers, these channels are FTA & hence not strictly part of the Sky platform. Sky cannot interfere with output that is not theirs.
Disk space is too small as it is now, certainly cannot afford to lose any for adverts which I always FFF through.

OLD BOY 29-10-2017 11:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35922365)
Disk space is too small as it is now, certainly cannot afford to lose any for adverts which I always FFF through.
I think we will be accessing bookmarked programmes through the cloud before much longer. This may explain why Virgin hasn't brought out any 2Mb V6 boxes.

jj20x 29-10-2017 19:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35922275)
Another idea as to what these services could be.

VM are to shortly give us targeted advertising from the Sky owned AdSmart. I wonder if these services are tests to check that this service is working properly??

https://www.skyadsmart.co.uk/about-skyadsmart/

My thinking is that the system might treat each advert as a (very short) pop up channel and this could be why there are no channel names associated with them.
Adsmart is supposed to be seamless, switching between streams would have synchronisation problems and GOP problems, so hardly seamless. I don't think that advertisers would be very happy with viewers having to wait for the picture to "rebuild" every time an advert changed.

Quote:
Apparently, AdSmart could also be used as a method to insert local news etc.
That really depends on how Adsmart is configured. Hopefully, VM subscribers will be able to opt-out of targeted advertising.

Quote:
Still doesn't explain why they wouldn't be available to M/Player customers though.
Or why they would be available to M Pack customers but not to Player Pack customers.

One of the guys maintaining the scanning db's raised a question. He wondered why 16 new services have been added to the SDT with only 1 of them making it to the NIT in specific regions. Maybe this is 16 different configurations of the same service, each configuration to be individually tested over time. I guess time will tell. Of course, VM could add the other 15 services to the NIT next week and blow that theory out of the water.

vincerooney 30-10-2017 16:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Got a new V6 on thursday- what is the difference between it and the old one? Any comments warmly wanted

BenMcr 30-10-2017 16:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Main ones are:

6 tuners
4K HDR compatible
More powerful hardware = faster
RF remote
WiFi connection / Ethernet to home network
Quick View (1.2x playback)

OLD BOY 30-10-2017 16:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35922516)
Got a new V6 on thursday- what is the difference between it and the old one? Any comments warmly wanted
Superfast. Supercool. Superconnectivity.

You really won't regret it, Vince. You'll actually get the BBC i-Player to work without stuttering, pausing and throwing you out! Netflix loads within seconds.

theone2k10 30-10-2017 17:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35922516)
Got a new V6 on thursday- what is the difference between it and the old one? Any comments warmly wanted
It works.

denphone 30-10-2017 17:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35922518)
Superfast. Supercool. Superconnectivity.

You really won't regret it, Vince. You'll actually get the BBC i-Player to work without stuttering, pausing and throwing you out! Netflix loads within seconds.
Nice to see OB giving positivity a spin for once on Virgin.:D

Mad Max 30-10-2017 17:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35922520)
It works.
It does, but the hub 3 supplied with it has crap WiFi................:(

Media Boy UK 30-10-2017 17:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Confirmed: Freeviews coming up on Virgin UK Channel 100.

November:
1st - Liverpool VS Maribor (Shown in HD from 7:45pm)
2nd - Sky One Showcase - 9pm to 11pm
4th - Good Behavior Showcase - 10pm - 11:40pm

denphone 30-10-2017 17:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922523)
It does, but the hub 3 supplied with it has crap WiFi................:(
Perhaps you have a signal problem MM as ours works fine.

Mad Max 30-10-2017 17:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922525)
Perhaps you have a signal problem MM as ours works fine.

Never had a problem with the SHUB 2, Den, only since I had the Hub 3 fitted that the WiFi is poorer, it's been reported in the internet section and on other sites about the poor WiFi from the hub 3.

denphone 30-10-2017 17:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922526)
Never had a problem with the SHUB 2, Den, only since I had the Hub 3 fitted that the WiFi is poorer, it's been reported in the internet section and on other sites about the poor WiFi from the hub 3.
We must be lucky then as l hope that something is done soon so that you can get a better WiFi signal MM.

oliver1948uk 30-10-2017 17:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
My house has 3 floors with young people streaming constantly on the top 2 floors. The Superhub 3 is downstairs and nobody has complained of any problem with WiFi.
I think you have a fault Mad Max or perhaps using a similar channel to a neighbour thus causing interference

OLD BOY 30-10-2017 18:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 35922529)
My house has 3 floors with young people streaming constantly on the top 2 floors. The Superhub 3 is downstairs and nobody has complained of any problem with WiFi.
I think you have a fault Mad Max or perhaps using a similar channel to a neighbour thus causing interference
Yes, mine works very well, too. It's worth reporting, Max.

Media Boy UK 30-10-2017 19:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35922416)
16 new services have been added to the SDT with only 1 of them making it to the NIT in specific regions. Maybe this is 16 different configurations of the same service, each configuration to be individually tested over time. I guess time will tell. Of course, VM could add the other 15 services to the NIT next week and blow that theory out of the water.
What are the 16 new services added to the SDT called?

If you do not want to post here - PM us.

Mad Max 30-10-2017 19:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35922531)
Yes, mine works very well, too. It's worth reporting, Max.
Yes, i'll give it a go.

Media Boy UK 30-10-2017 19:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Media Boy HQ will be asking you to vote on the following in November.

-Best new Channel of 2017.
-Best poster with information of 2017.
-Best Virgin Media Worker on Cable Forum.

All lines are close right now - We will let you know when they are open so DO NOT VOTE as they will not count.

Then "The Best of... 2017" is coming in early December.

With "Coming Soon to Virgin Media (2018)" coming in the final week of 2017.

1andrew1 30-10-2017 20:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35922520)
It works.
lol. :D

theone2k10 30-10-2017 21:13
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922523)
It does, but the hub 3 supplied with it has crap WiFi................:(
When i had the sh1 way back when i was with vm the sh1 was truly awful i bought my own router and piggybacked it of the sh1 it worked a treat.
Might be worth you logging into the SH3 on your pc in your browser type 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.10 to check your wireless channels.
Taken from vms help page https://help.virginmedia.com/system/...rgin-Media-Hub

Mad Max 30-10-2017 23:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35922563)
When i had the sh1 way back when i was with vm the sh1 was truly awful i bought my own router and piggybacked it of the sh1 it worked a treat.
Might be worth you logging into the SH3 on your pc in your browser type 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.10 to check your wireless channels.
Taken from vms help page https://help.virginmedia.com/system/...rgin-Media-Hub
Cheers mate, will have a look............:)

jj20x 30-10-2017 23:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35922550)
What are the 16 new services added to the SDT called?

If you do not want to post here - PM us.
His theory was about the "Test" services and a possible reason why they didn't all appear on the NIT at the same time.

It doesn't really help but the SID numbers and service names are:

4403 Test V1
4404 Test W1
4409 Test W4
4410 Test W5
4411 Test W6
4412 Test X1
4413 Test X2
4414 Test Y1
4416 Test Y2
4418 Test Y3
4419 Test Y4
4420 Test Y5
4421 Test Z1
4422 Test Z2
4423 Test W2
4424 Test W3

Media Boy UK 31-10-2017 00:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35922594)
His theory was about the "Test" services and a possible reason why they didn't all appear on the NIT at the same time.

It doesn't really help but the SID numbers and service names are:

4403 Test V1
4404 Test W1
4409 Test W4
4410 Test W5
4411 Test W6
4412 Test X1
4413 Test X2
4414 Test Y1
4416 Test Y2
4418 Test Y3
4419 Test Y4
4420 Test Y5
4421 Test Z1
4422 Test Z2
4423 Test W2
4424 Test W3
Thanks for info.

Media Boy UK 31-10-2017 12:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Sky Christmas to launch on November 8th on Channels 410 and 440.

denphone 31-10-2017 12:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35922660)
Sky Christmas to launch on November 8th on Channels 410 and 440.
The members will be singing hallelujah , hallelujah in their pews after hearing that stunning news MB.:D

OLD BOY 31-10-2017 15:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35922660)
Sky Christmas to launch on November 8th on Channels 410 and 440.
These are the only types of 'Coming Soons' we seem to get these days. Let's hope that 2018 is a bumper year for VM.

HEALTH WARNING: Don't hold your breath. :(

Mad Max 31-10-2017 16:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Let's hope that 2018 is a bumper year for VM.



:LOL:

1andrew1 31-10-2017 16:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35922682)
These are the only types of 'Coming Soons' we seem to get these days. Let's hope that 2018 is a bumper year for VM.

HEALTH WARNING: Don't hold your breath. :(
We sometimes get a coming soon that is quite uplifting.
To our monthly direct debits. ;)

OLD BOY 31-10-2017 16:07
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922687)
:LOL:
Sky Easter, Easter 24, True Easter....

denphone 31-10-2017 16:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35922689)
We sometimes get a coming soon that is quite uplifting.
To our monthly direct debits. ;)
Never underestimate the power of believing as one day it might possibly be true.;):D

Gavin-D 01-11-2017 11:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Christmas comes early to Yesterday

Christmas comedy specials every night from 10pm on Yesterday from November 13th

OLD BOY 01-11-2017 12:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922693)
Never underestimate the power of believing as one day it might possibly be true.;):D
Crikey, it's not quite what we're used to, getting a flash of positivity from you, Den.

Hold on while I open a window, I feel quite faint... :D

denphone 01-11-2017 12:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35922779)
Crikey, it's not quite what we're used to, getting a flash of positivity from you, Den.

Hold on while I open a window, I feel quite faint... :D
You have obviously not learned the art of real positivity yet or come to think of you can add actual reality to that as well OB.:D

OLD BOY 01-11-2017 12:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922780)
You have obviously not learned the art of real positivity yet or come to think of you can add actual reality to that as well OB.:D
Ah, but the future isn't real until it happens, Den! Until then, it is only imagined.;)

denphone 01-11-2017 12:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35922783)
Ah, but the future isn't real until it happens, Den! Until then, it is only imagined.;)
Correct and nice to see you are coming over to that sentiment gradually.;)

Mad Max 01-11-2017 13:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Just watched the first episode of the new series of Strike Back last night, oh dear, a total change of characters has done nothing for this show, to me it was so predictable and really poor, I think it's had it's time.

1701-e 01-11-2017 13:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922693)
Never underestimate the power of believing as one day it might possibly be true.;):D
You could say--- Believe in better..... ;)

denphone 01-11-2017 13:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35922786)
Just watched the first episode of the new series of Strike Back last night, oh dear, a total change of characters has done nothing for this show, to me it was so predictable and really poor, I think it's had it's time.
Yes l have to concur with your sentiments MM.

---------- Post added at 13:22 ---------- Previous post was at 13:21 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 35922788)
You could say--- Believe in better..... ;)
Now where have l heard that old chestnut from.:)

nicknewark 01-11-2017 14:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
I think the only thing I've watched on Sky One is American Road Trip with Freddie Flintoff and Co. I can't say other than that I bother even looking at it.

---------- Post added at 14:38 ---------- Previous post was at 14:36 ----------

Can we go back to the good old days of X Files and 90210, yes I know, I was younger then.

OLD BOY 01-11-2017 14:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35922798)
I think the only thing I've watched on Sky One is American Road Trip with Freddie Flintoff and Co. I can't say other than that I bother even looking at it.

---------- Post added at 14:38 ---------- Previous post was at 14:36 ----------

Can we go back to the good old days of X Files and 90210, yes I know, I was younger then.
I certainly agree with you that Sky One has gone downhill, but I'll pass on the two programmes you have highlighted!

Unless things change significantly this winter, the day I abandon my subscription to Sky channels on cable will be all the closer.

vincerooney 01-11-2017 14:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Sounds good- expect live thoughts as i deal with the v6 tomorrow first hand

denphone 01-11-2017 14:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35922800)
I certainly agree with you that Sky One has gone downhill, but I'll pass on the two programmes you have highlighted!

Unless things change significantly this winter, the day I abandon my subscription to Sky channels on cable will be all the closer.
Well you have been threatening that for a long while now OB.;)

muppetman11 01-11-2017 15:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35922802)
Well you have been threatening that for a long while now OB.;)
Ad nauseum :D

denphone 01-11-2017 15:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35922805)
Ad nauseum :D
At least the pillar of sagacious wisdom is reliable in his posts.:D


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