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Yes overall its all installed now, seems very slow when compared to skyhd. The UI needs sorting so all screens are HD and at the moment I cant go back in time and look at things I have missed.
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Takes about a week to "catch up"
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I do wish there was room for the full channel info on the My recordings scren though; often it cuts off and you don't know if it's CH4 or CH4HD, without pressing 'info'. If making them HD would fix that, then I agree with you. |
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Okay, I'm not going to bore people with the details that basically are only relevant to me, but everything is fine now and everything will be set up as planned.
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However, I can understand their confusion in that why isn't the past 7 days-worth of programmes available seeing as they are already there :) |
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Just saw this on DS is there any truth in it?
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This is the point. I always thought it only downloads data forward of the day of your install; i.e. the latter. Others seem to assume the former. And, with all due respect, it seems that I am right :)
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Has any thought about actually reading the post on Digitalspy that has todays date on it.
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Was hoping for it free - i aint paying for an inferior quality of picture. |
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(That is the correct answer. Think about it :D) |
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I had TiVo installed a few hours ago. Thought I'd throw my twopenneth worth in regarding my initial findings.
First up, installation took about 1 hour 20 minutes. Engineer superb, never left until everything working, didn't appear to be rushing and seemed knowledgable. First impressions of TiVo is that it is an excellent bit of kit and much much better than V+ box. Having read so many posts on forums about people having problems I was seriously questioning whether to let the install go ahead or if I should cancel it until bugs have been ironed out. So far, I have to say I am delighted I went ahead with it. Really excited about what the future holds with updates, additional apps etc. PQ was a big worry. But I have to say that those worries were pretty much unfounded. The SD picture is definitely a little softer, but I mean a little. It does not make the picture unwatchable and after a couple of days viewing, I'm sure I'll forget there is a difference to my old SA V+ PQ. Admittedly, I haven't watched many programmes from SD channels that I would during the course of the week yet, but have flicked through various SD channels and not encountered any picture that caused me any distress. Was watching a lot of Soccer Saturday on SSN and it was very watchable indeed. The text was not quite as sharp as the old SA V+, but only a marginal difference. Haven't watched HD too much yet, but what I did look at the picture quality looked a little better than the SA V+, at worse it was exactly the same. The only gripe I have is that on my TV I have a settings option of "HDMI Black Enhancement", which worked with the SA V+ connected, but doesn't work with TiVo connected. But it's no major issue as I have a separate "Black level" options, which does a similar thing. The menus look great. Love the background colour too. Much easier to read the menu's than the jet black background of V+. Menu's in general are much more responsive than the V+ too. The pause between switching channels that existed on the V+ is present on TiVo and at times I felt this was slightly worse, but it could be due to my box downloading stuff having only been installed so recently. Even if it isn't it's not a major thing. Suggestions, wishlists etc seem like great functions. Can't make too much of a comment on them until a couple of weeks of using them, seeing what is being recorded etc. Any gripes I have at the moment are very minor things that may be just me being too picky or they simply don't spoil the enjoyment of what is a far superior STB than V+HD. And will probably be fixed anyway. One such gripe is the way you have to enter text in seach menu's etc (navigating a grid of letters with the arrow keys). The installer said that they would be releasing a new remote with a flip up keyboard attached, but didn't know when this would be - so that would be useful if true. Overall, I'm very, very impressed with my TiVo based on the first few hours use and can already see why so many people are saying they could never go back to V+ after this. I couldn't even go back to using Sky+HD (even with all their extra HD channels) despite the fact I felt their box was better than V+. As long as VM can continually improve the box and increase the apps then they are on to a real winner IMHO. Sorry if this post is too long and boring. Time for something to eat, then more TiVo play time...:D |
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She did say that nearly 5 months ago though! |
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So long as she follows such bold claims up i'm sure you Tivo customers will be happy. |
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My only real 'wish' is that they develop the same technology that V+ had in order to drop the padding between two programmes. As it stands I cannot record 2 programmes at 9pm and also at 10pm without one of them clashing. I can of course look for a later recording or use a +1 channel, but then lost the HD option. It's not a huge issue, but it is on my wishlist. I've heard mention that it is going to be looked at, but is this for sure, or is it just on others' wishlists as well? And when originally setting up all the series links we had it was really frustrating to have to go in and put the same settings in individually for every single one. It would be nice to have a 'global' setting and then if we wanted something different to then change that individually. Oh, and it would also be nice to have the background 'record to DVD' like the V+ had. Yes, with a 1TB drive we don't 'need' it, but we do like to keep some things, and it would just be nice to be able to do so. I don't see these as deal breakers or even real issues, just things that would make things easier. Ref the 'reminder' I didn't use it on a regular basis, but sometimes it was nice if I spotted something I wanted to watch in a few minutes to just set a reminder so the TV would switch itself over if I got caught up with something else. So I can see why people want it even if most don't use it. I don't miss it for the most part, but on occasion it would be nice. Overall I'm thrilled with the package and service. And one of my original boxes was faulty and I got a 'next day' app't to replace it and has been fine ever since. Just my thoughts. I've actually been away for a week and just got back and am thrilled to see that all my programmes have recorded with no issues - unlike at times with the V+ where there have been reboots or hiccups and have lost all or part of some programmes in the past. Well done Virgin and TiVo - keep up the good work and here's hoping a few of the 'issues' raised will be looked into in order to make a great product even better :) |
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So not in the way of a smart-phone as i have not got any apps in the way shape or form on both my smart-phones. |
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Well mine was installed this morning, I would like to know how u can watch something from catch up tv that was on channel 4 in the middle of the week. Three I'm a bed seems I can't search for shows without trawling through pages of listings. Also they need to make sure every page u can search with the letter keys on the remote and not by that stupid pre historic selecting a letter on screen.
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Cant eveen see three in a bed listed and the search facility is none existant for catch up... so far not impressed at all. Can someone tell me how I can delete a whole folder of recordings in one click or do I have to delete every single show within that folder separatly. |
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I dont follow why cant you search for the programme?
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I suspect 'Three in a bed' is one of the shows only available from the online 4OD. |
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I thought the whole point of this though is that there would be lots of content etc.
IT isnt obvious either how to use it... you say press clear but no where on screen does it show you that option or what to press so unless I asked I wouldnt know. I do have to say it is dissapointing so far... to say I have paid £149 and then you have £3 a month for a few extra features such as extra tuner and wishlists etc the rest is kind of shoddy. |
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Right. First impressions.
Series link is so messy. You have to manually set the padding for each series link. Also, I have to set it to record new and reruns because the guide data doesn't work on just 'new' for about 99.99% of all shows. So now I have to delete a load of re-runs. So much for progress, eh? This is my biggest concern. This needs to be fixed. Get that guide data sorted (or return to the old V+ way of doing it) and bring back bulk padding. Also, why can I do the series link options as an overlay on search, but on the guide I have to go into the old SDUI? I'd rather it be an overlay on everything. It's almost as if it's unfinished. I had completely forgotten about the automatic rewind/fast-forward skip back/forward and assumed it was a glitch or something. I thought it would be a good thing for me but I actually started to think it was bad. Anyway, I solve it by pressing the pause button twice instead of pressing the play button. Right onto the good points! It's nice and fast. It doesn't take 2 seconds to pause anymore. I press pause, and it instantly pauses. I press play, and it instantly plays. The fast forward is really smooth, something I wouldn't expect on HD digital recordings. The rewind isn't as smooth, but it's still pretty smooth. The fact I have 1TB on my hands hasn't hit me. It's like, even though I didn't have to worry about my box storage, as it rarely went over half full, I know don't ever have to worry about filling up my box with HD recordings. The box is bigger than I thought it would when I saw the pictures. It's the same width as the V+, I thought it would be smaller. But I don't mind about that, I have plenty of space. Installation took around 4 hours. Yes, you read that right, 4 hours. There was a huge kerfuffle over moving the V+ into the other room which I won't bother going into, and the engineer trying to setup the remote by not turning the remote away from the box as instructed on screen, thereby turning the box off numerous times. In the end though, it's all okay now. Apart from the series links, padding and skip-back quirks I don't like. But yeah, it's all fine. |
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it seem quite obvious 'clear' will delete things and the guide book also explains it. V+ had similar shortcuts that were not prompted on screen. I think you will really start to see the benefits the more you play with the Tivo but if not and you are happier with the VCR like approach of V+ then you should certainly cancel your contract. |
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When I moved from Tivo S1 to V+ (for HD) I really could not believe the huge retrograde step in terms of user interface and functionality. V+ records what you ask (if you are lucky!) nothing more - just like a VCR. it doesnt evn realise when a new series of something you have previously recorded has started. Tivo is proactive - you tell it what you definately want to record and what programmes you like and it gets to work pulling in content for you proactively. In these respects, at least, V+ is much closer to a VCR than to Tivo. |
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I suppose it's what you want really if I want to record Waterloo Road , I series link it and it records every week unlike one of the posters here who had recordings of it from every BBC channel , each to their own.
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[QUOTE=ahardie;35226108]There isn't a product on the market that suits everybody Richard. I would send it back and get your money back. That's what i will do if I don't like it.[COLOR=Silver]
QUOTE] I am very technical minded and wanted the next generation tv but even technical minded people need some instruction... on the screen the clear button should be shown what it does like for example one of the screens the last channel button shows up as being the search shortcut button. I just feel that for a premium product that they are charging £150 for and £3 a month that there should be hardly any issues and as soon as they are reported a software fix should be put in place asap. |
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OK I've only been out for the day, got back to find far too many post's on here today to catch up with.
PLEASE STOP POSTING UNTIL I CATCH UP :mad: And yes I still love my Tivo. |
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I am sure I will get to grips with it more once I get in touch but having come from sky where the on screen menus are really easy to use and you dont have to go across and select individual letters when you search for something the user interface seems a step down so far. The only reason I wanted to watch three in a bed was because I had recorded it on sky and that was all disconnected this morning so I was hoping for this to be on the on demand. Love the bbc iplayer and once this is integrated into the guide will be fab... Think the same should go for itv player and also 4od needs to have an app like iplayer. |
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I prefer how the tv catchup menus work on the V+ though and the fact you can search for things specifically in tv catchup. Yes I know you can search for it in the general tv listings and go through to it that way but it doesnt seem to work and I have to trawl through episodes to get to the one I want and then it only gives me the option to go to on demand anyway screen anyway to search for it manually... again another thing that hasnt impressed me or flat mates. IN the advertising video that I showed them everyone was like wow but its so long winded. WHen I was showing it to my flat mates tonight all these little things that should be working that are not have not impressed them and they think I am daft to have spent this ammount of money on something that has a longer way round of doing things than the V+. |
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And unlike V+ it will now (shudder the thought) record every series of WR without me having to a) realise a new series is starting b) set up a new series pass It will also proactively record and suggest lots of other content like Waterloo Road which I may not otherwise have discovered! Yikes off to cancel a season pass! ;) ---------- Post added at 22:46 ---------- Previous post was at 22:27 ---------- Quote:
You also have to wait for the programmes which will appear in catchup to be added (as you do with V+). i think its usually 24 hours. So in a couple of days you will certainly be able to play anything marked with a c in todays EPG straight from the EPG. Hope that helps. |
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I have set number of series links and had the programmes finish early.
I know I have to train myself to always add padding, but why? In the olden days, before TV recorders, the channels were meticulous with their timing. Now, in the age of PVRs, they are sloppy. Only in exceptional circumstances did programmes overrun, now it is the norm. |
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If you want to see what episodes of BGT are available - past, present and future you simply go to 'Search and Browse'. When you type B it appears and under Episode Guide every episode for the last 4 years is listed and last week show is available to view on demand. |
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Although if you use the A-Z there is no more than about 20 for any letter so it is just as quick. Dont forget the 'ch' down acts as 'page down' - which also speeds things up. |
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Despite what others are posting, the playback using the "c" hardly ever works. I have mine for over a week and during that time I was only able to use it once. If I try to use it I am directed straight to the VOD menu and have to start all over again.:mad: The V+ was much better and simpler to use.:) |
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The V+ is better and simpler in the same way an abacus is better and simpler than a PC ;) In terms of functionality v+ cannot compete with Tivo. People just need to get used to Tivo - obviously they will not initially find it as simple as a system they are experienced in using. |
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I just find it odd how some people seem fixated with a small number of very minor temporary 'teething problems' when there are so many positives! |
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Well I am new to TiVo so im sure you can understand that I havent discovered everything yet but I do find that the box is slower than sky and the V+ (will this improve in the coming days?)
The other problems should not be there if it had been tested properly and as it is a premium product virgin media should have these rectified immediately. |
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I agree about the problems - should be sorted by now. These seem more related to the ongoing service (EPG data, catch-up links) than the hardware. I find the box much faster and responsive than v+ but I didnt use it much during the first 24 hours. The initial data download may be slowing things down for you. Some people have also reported a slowing down as the hard drive gets full but as I have not been above 12% full I couldnt comment on that. |
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The EPG data is really starting to **** me off everyone going on about tivo is so clever but only if the data is there.
Click records like 6 times a week due to there being no episode data at all Ace of Cakes new season set to new only nothing had to set it to new and reruns recorded 32 episodes in a week :( Mythbusters new season new only recorded the wrong epsiodes had to set it to new and reruns Bear Grylls set to new only recorded 6 random epsiodes a week ago which wasnt new then nothing which is good as there isnt. Working ones Fatal Attractions Deadliest Catch Megastructures 10 O'Clock Live The Hotel Monster Inside Me MasterChef Dual survival Suggestions started off well with things I missed to set up Series Links for now its just recording 1 out of 5 that I might be worth a look at. How many SL's do you have I have 29 so far but I keep forgetting stuff as I never see the adverts for them lol thats the annoying part of a PVR you need to be reading a TV guide to see whats new |
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Anyone know if it actually did start early or finish early or maybe the tivo clock is a few minutes out. |
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One thing you need to look out for. If you set up a series link for a programme, any new series link automatically goes to the bottom of the list of the series links and so lowest priority.
I set up a series links for Doctor Who Confidential both last weekend and yesterday and they didn’t work. Found out that there were 2 other series links programmes running at the time and one with padding on the end so Doctor Who Confidential didn’t record at the time as it was lowest priority. Now I know Tivo will go off and find a repeat viewing of the programme and record that instead (assuming 1 is available), but you don’t know that at the time! For me I just moved the series link up the priority list and it recorded the programme. |
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New series of the apprentice starts a week on tuesday,on bbc 1 its aknowledged as new but on bbc1hd its not.Really wish they would sort this epg out surely its common sense if it states new on bbc1 its also new on bbc1hd
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I discovered Tivo in about 2001 and was immediately blown away by the experience delivered by the Series 1 box. I reluctantly switched to V+ when it was launched for its HD and multiple tuner abilities and have been hugely disappointed with its limited functionality, lack of reliability and slow performance. I am just glad to finally have a box which combines the hardware (HD and multiple tuner) benefits of V+ with the Tivo interface and functionality + lots of great new features like remote record scheduling. In my experience most people who live with Tivo for any length of time become real fans of the experience - and, for my sins, I am one of just one of them! :) |
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Installed yesterday PM was installers 5th install and he pretty much had it down to a fine art, plug in tivo and adjust levels, relocate V+ box to bedroom, check which card Virgin wanted to be put in V+ now and remove V box. Back to tivo to finish install and and give me a comprehensive demo and then down the road to tag our cable in the local headend.
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