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VirginMediaPhil 30-04-2011 14:48

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35225738)
The transfer must be arranged in advance!:erm:

I know, it's not really that annoying though as I don't use the second TV often and it's only for Freeview anyway.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 14:53

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Yes overall its all installed now, seems very slow when compared to skyhd. The UI needs sorting so all screens are HD and at the moment I cant go back in time and look at things I have missed.

ASsuming this will update once the box loads etc over the next 24hours?

Hugh 30-04-2011 14:54

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Takes about a week to "catch up"

fixerman 30-04-2011 15:12

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35225770)
Takes about a week to "catch up"

I can confirm that! It took mine a full week before I could go back seven days on the EPG. :)

carlwaring 30-04-2011 15:12

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35225724)
I'll probably get abuse for saying this as I know I don't have TIVO however who knows in the future , I'm just adding support to what fixerman has said make sure everybody reports bugs and broken features on here , VM community forum or via 150 no matter how trivial , this way they get ironed out quicker.

Absolutely :)

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35225791)
I can confirm that! It took mine a full week before I could go back seven days on the EPG. :)

I wonder if there's some sort of correlation there? :rolleyes: :p: :D

Doz007 30-04-2011 15:17

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35225768)
Yes overall its all installed now, seems very slow when compared to skyhd. The UI needs sorting so all screens are HD and at the moment I cant go back in time and look at things I have missed.

ASsuming this will update once the box loads etc over the next 24hours?

Couldn't agree more about all the menu screens being HD. It makes the whole UI look unfinished when you're reverting to SD menus all the time. :(

fixerman 30-04-2011 15:18

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35225792)
Absolutely :)


I wonder if there's some sort of correlation there? :rolleyes: :p: :D

Are you being smart Carl?:erm:

passingbat 30-04-2011 15:29

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35225802)
Couldn't agree more about all the menu screens being HD. It makes the whole UI look unfinished when you're reverting to SD menus all the time. :(

Although it would be better if they were all in HD, the SD ones don't bother me. They're information screens after all and are perfectly legible to me, so don't see it as a massive issue.

I do wish there was room for the full channel info on the My recordings scren though; often it cuts off and you don't know if it's CH4 or CH4HD, without pressing 'info'. If making them HD would fix that, then I agree with you.

Digital Fanatic 30-04-2011 15:31

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35225768)
Yes overall its all installed now, seems very slow when compared to skyhd. The UI needs sorting so all screens are HD and at the moment I cant go back in time and look at things I have missed.

ASsuming this will update once the box loads etc over the next 24hours?

We have an outage on the EPG Catch-up links at the moment. Should be restored after the Bank Holiday.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35225819)
Although it would be better if they were all in HD, the SD ones don't bother me. They're information screens after all and are perfectly legible to me, so don't see it as a massive issue.

Same here. Will certainly be better looking once TiVo update those screens, but as you say they are perfectly functional.

VirginMediaPhil 30-04-2011 15:32

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Okay, I'm not going to bore people with the details that basically are only relevant to me, but everything is fine now and everything will be set up as planned.

Digital Fanatic 30-04-2011 15:34

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Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35225824)
Okay, I'm not going to bore people with the details that basically are only relevant to me, but everything is fine now and everything will be set up as planned.

Glad you are all sorted now. If the tech doesn't get back in touch over the relocation of the V+, then call Customer Care and they should be able to re-arrange it for you. :)

VirginMediaPhil 30-04-2011 15:36

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35225829)
Glad you are all sorted now. If the tech doesn't get back in touch over the relocation of the V+, then call Customer Care and they should be able to re-arrange it for you. :)

No they're doing it here as originally planned, it's all okay now. :)

Digital Fanatic 30-04-2011 15:38

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Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35225831)
No they're doing it here as originally planned, it's all okay now. :)

Ah cool :)

carlwaring 30-04-2011 15:38

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35225803)
Are you being smart Carl?:erm:

Yes. Sorry :o: My point was that people are complainig that they can't go back 7 days when they don't have more than 7 days-worth of data.

However, I can understand their confusion in that why isn't the past 7 days-worth of programmes available seeing as they are already there :)

Gavin-D 30-04-2011 15:41

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Just saw this on DS is there any truth in it?

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I phoned yesterday to order the 1tb Tivo, it was suggested that I call back tomorrow (Sunday) as there is a better offer to be had. Anyone?

Digital Fanatic 30-04-2011 15:43

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35225837)
Just saw this on DS is there any truth in it?

Not AFAIK... The free install offer finishes today.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 15:43

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35225834)
Yes. Sorry :o: My point was that people are complainig that they can't go back 7 days when they don't have more than 7 days-worth of data.

However, I can understand their confusion in that why isn't the past 7 days-worth of programmes available seeing as they are already there :)

Doesnt the box download the epg data for last 7 days or does eachh day have to pass before you can go back to it?

carlwaring 30-04-2011 15:54

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This is the point. I always thought it only downloads data forward of the day of your install; i.e. the latter. Others seem to assume the former. And, with all due respect, it seems that I am right :)

Jameseh 30-04-2011 15:55

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35225840)
Not AFAIK... The free install offer finishes today.

Only for pre-registrations or anyone calling up?

RobboEdin 30-04-2011 16:02

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35225840)
Not AFAIK... The free install offer finishes today.

If there is a BETTER offer available than the free install offer given to all the pre-registered people who were promised a treat for their patience then I for one will be annoyed.

muppetman11 30-04-2011 16:07

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35225837)
Just saw this on DS is there any truth in it?

Some one with an agenda probably , trying to wind people up.

fixerman 30-04-2011 16:09

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35225841)
Doesnt the box download the epg data for last 7 days or does eachh day have to pass before you can go back to it?

That was precisely what happened in my case. The TiVo never downloaded anything to the epg before the day that it was installed. Hence the full week before I had seven days backward EPG. :confused:

muppetman11 30-04-2011 16:11

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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35225848)
This is the point. I always thought it only downloads data forward of the day of your install; i.e. the latter. Others seem to assume the former. And, with all due respect, it seems that I am right :)

Carl are you ever wrong ;)

pk1 30-04-2011 16:20

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35225864)
Some one with an agenda probably , trying to wind people up.

I might ring up tomorrow then and see what the offer is,as i am very interested in getting Tivo and bye bye to sky.

passingbat 30-04-2011 16:28

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Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35225876)
I might ring up tomorrow then and see what the offer is,as i am very interested in getting Tivo and bye bye to sky.

But if you ring up today you should get free install. Tomorrow, the install will be £40.

pk1 30-04-2011 16:29

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35225882)
But if you ring up today you should get free install. Tomorrow, the install will be £40.

Good point :)

RobboEdin 30-04-2011 16:32

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35225882)
But if you ring up today you should get free install. Tomorrow, the install will be £40.

Yes but there is someone who is claiming that they have been advised by Virgin Media when trying to order today with free install that there is a better offer coming tomorrow!

muppetman11 30-04-2011 16:36

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35225888)
Yes but there is someone who is claiming that they have been advised by Virgin Media when trying to order today with free install that there is a better offer coming tomorrow!

Can you honestly see that though ? There would be a lot of pipped off pre reg customers.

Digital Fanatic 30-04-2011 16:38

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35225849)
Only for pre-registrations or anyone calling up?

All existing customers

RobboEdin 30-04-2011 16:38

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35225893)
Can you honestly see that though ? There would be a lot of pipped off pre reg customers.

Exactly my sentiment from my earlier post #3120. I would be very annoyed, having pre-registered and waited patiently with a promise of a treat.

muppetman11 30-04-2011 16:40

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35225897)
Exactly my sentiment from my earlier post #3120. I would be very annoyed, having pre-registered and waited patiently with a promise of a treat.

You would have every right to be , I wouldn't worry it's probably some idiot posting nonsense.

Digital Fanatic 30-04-2011 16:41

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35225897)
Exactly my sentiment from my earlier post #3120. I would be very annoyed, having pre-registered and waited patiently with a promise of a treat.

Sunday would also be a strange day for something like that too.

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 16:54

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35225888)
Yes but there is someone who is claiming that they have been advised by Virgin Media when trying to order today with free install that there is a better offer coming tomorrow!

Could it be sales trying to get more on their commission:confused:

DaMac 30-04-2011 16:58

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35225911)
Could it be sales trying to get more on their commission:confused:

Sales people don't pull stunts like that :erm:

Peter_ 30-04-2011 17:01

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Has any thought about actually reading the post on Digitalspy that has todays date on it.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1468862
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New Tivo offer tomorrow?
I phoned yesterday to order the 1tb Tivo, it was suggested that I call back tomorrow as there is a better offer to be had. Anyone?
That means that they called yesterday Friday 29th April and they were advised to call back today Saturday 30th April.

By the way I was in work earlier and saw no mention of a special Saturday offer for TiVo, I may be wrong though.

DaMac 30-04-2011 17:02

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35225916)
Has any thought about actually reading the post on Digitalspy that has todays date on it.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1468862


That means that they called yesterday Friday 29th April and they were advised to call back today Saturday 30th April.

So what is the better offer today then?

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 17:04

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35225917)
So what is the better offer today then?

Its the final day of the sale:D Then it reverts back to the proper price:D:D:D

RobboEdin 30-04-2011 17:05

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35225920)
Its the final day of the sale:D Then it reverts back to the proper price:D:D:D

Hopefully.

DaMac 30-04-2011 17:17

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35225920)
Its the final day of the sale:D Then it reverts back to the proper price:D:D:D

That does sound like a better offer. :rolleyes:
Was hoping for it free - i aint paying for an inferior quality of picture.

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 17:21

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35225930)
That does sound like a better offer. :rolleyes:
Was hoping for it free - i aint paying for an inferior quality of picture.

:LOL:

carlwaring 30-04-2011 17:49

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35225869)
Carl are you ever wrong ;)

No.

(That is the correct answer. Think about it :D)

OLDGOLD 30-04-2011 19:08

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I had TiVo installed a few hours ago. Thought I'd throw my twopenneth worth in regarding my initial findings.

First up, installation took about 1 hour 20 minutes. Engineer superb, never left until everything working, didn't appear to be rushing and seemed knowledgable.

First impressions of TiVo is that it is an excellent bit of kit and much much better than V+ box. Having read so many posts on forums about people having problems I was seriously questioning whether to let the install go ahead or if I should cancel it until bugs have been ironed out. So far, I have to say I am delighted I went ahead with it. Really excited about what the future holds with updates, additional apps etc.

PQ was a big worry. But I have to say that those worries were pretty much unfounded. The SD picture is definitely a little softer, but I mean a little. It does not make the picture unwatchable and after a couple of days viewing, I'm sure I'll forget there is a difference to my old SA V+ PQ. Admittedly, I haven't watched many programmes from SD channels that I would during the course of the week yet, but have flicked through various SD channels and not encountered any picture that caused me any distress. Was watching a lot of Soccer Saturday on SSN and it was very watchable indeed. The text was not quite as sharp as the old SA V+, but only a marginal difference.
Haven't watched HD too much yet, but what I did look at the picture quality looked a little better than the SA V+, at worse it was exactly the same. The only gripe I have is that on my TV I have a settings option of "HDMI Black Enhancement", which worked with the SA V+ connected, but doesn't work with TiVo connected. But it's no major issue as I have a separate "Black level" options, which does a similar thing.

The menus look great. Love the background colour too. Much easier to read the menu's than the jet black background of V+. Menu's in general are much more responsive than the V+ too. The pause between switching channels that existed on the V+ is present on TiVo and at times I felt this was slightly worse, but it could be due to my box downloading stuff having only been installed so recently. Even if it isn't it's not a major thing.

Suggestions, wishlists etc seem like great functions. Can't make too much of a comment on them until a couple of weeks of using them, seeing what is being recorded etc.

Any gripes I have at the moment are very minor things that may be just me being too picky or they simply don't spoil the enjoyment of what is a far superior STB than V+HD. And will probably be fixed anyway. One such gripe is the way you have to enter text in seach menu's etc (navigating a grid of letters with the arrow keys). The installer said that they would be releasing a new remote with a flip up keyboard attached, but didn't know when this would be - so that would be useful if true.

Overall, I'm very, very impressed with my TiVo based on the first few hours use and can already see why so many people are saying they could never go back to V+ after this. I couldn't even go back to using Sky+HD (even with all their extra HD channels) despite the fact I felt their box was better than V+. As long as VM can continually improve the box and increase the apps then they are on to a real winner IMHO.

Sorry if this post is too long and boring.

Time for something to eat, then more TiVo play time...:D

denphone 30-04-2011 20:08

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 35225978)
I had TiVo installed a few hours ago. Thought I'd throw my twopenneth worth in regarding my initial findings.

First up, installation took about 1 hour 20 minutes. Engineer superb, never left until everything working, didn't appear to be rushing and seemed knowledgable.

First impressions of TiVo is that it is an excellent bit of kit and much much better than V+ box. Having read so many posts on forums about people having problems I was seriously questioning whether to let the install go ahead or if I should cancel it until bugs have been ironed out. So far, I have to say I am delighted I went ahead with it. Really excited about what the future holds with updates, additional apps etc.

PQ was a big worry. But I have to say that those worries were pretty much unfounded. The SD picture is definitely a little softer, but I mean a little. It does not make the picture unwatchable and after a couple of days viewing, I'm sure I'll forget there is a difference to my old SA V+ PQ. Admittedly, I haven't watched many programmes from SD channels that I would during the course of the week yet, but have flicked through various SD channels and not encountered any picture that caused me any distress. Was watching a lot of Soccer Saturday on SSN and it was very watchable indeed. The text was not quite as sharp as the old SA V+, but only a marginal difference.
Haven't watched HD too much yet, but what I did look at the picture quality looked a little better than the SA V+, at worse it was exactly the same. The only gripe I have is that on my TV I have a settings option of "HDMI Black Enhancement", which worked with the SA V+ connected, but doesn't work with TiVo connected. But it's no major issue as I have a separate "Black level" options, which does a similar thing.

The menus look great. Love the background colour too. Much easier to read the menu's than the jet black background of V+. Menu's in general are much more responsive than the V+ too. The pause between switching channels that existed on the V+ is present on TiVo and at times I felt this was slightly worse, but it could be due to my box downloading stuff having only been installed so recently. Even if it isn't it's not a major thing.

Suggestions, wishlists etc seem like great functions. Can't make too much of a comment on them until a couple of weeks of using them, seeing what is being recorded etc.

Any gripes I have at the moment are very minor things that may be just me being too picky or they simply don't spoil the enjoyment of what is a far superior STB than V+HD. And will probably be fixed anyway. One such gripe is the way you have to enter text in seach menu's etc (navigating a grid of letters with the arrow keys). The installer said that they would be releasing a new remote with a flip up keyboard attached, but didn't know when this would be - so that would be useful if true.

Overall, I'm very, very impressed with my TiVo based on the first few hours use and can already see why so many people are saying they could never go back to V+ after this. I couldn't even go back to using Sky+HD (even with all their extra HD channels) despite the fact I felt their box was better than V+. As long as VM can continually improve the box and increase the apps then they are on to a real winner IMHO.

Sorry if this post is too long and boring.

Time for something to eat, then more TiVo play time...:D

l agree with you on that it is a superb set top box and lets hope the rest of the year brings much more added apps and interactivety.

mersey70 30-04-2011 20:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226003)
l agree with you on that it is a superb set top box and lets hope the rest of the year brings much more added apps and interactivety.

Well ald' Cindy R said there would be 'hundreds' of apps within 12 months.

She did say that nearly 5 months ago though!

denphone 30-04-2011 20:13

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35226005)
Well ald' Cindy R said there would be 'hundreds' of apps within 12 months.

She did say that nearly 5 months ago though!

it would be great if they develop a app system like thes smartphones.

passingbat 30-04-2011 20:33

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35226005)
Well ald' Cindy R said there would be 'hundreds' of apps within 12 months.

She did say that nearly 5 months ago though!

"This is the voice of doom speaking!" :D

denphone 30-04-2011 20:42

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226018)
"This is the voice of doom speaking!" :D

l think Doom was a computer game and a film according to my information.

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 20:48

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226007)
it would be great if they develop a app system like thes smartphones.

I do not hope so.

denphone 30-04-2011 20:49

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35226027)
I do not hope so.

Well what would you like to see.

mersey70 30-04-2011 20:51

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35226018)
"This is the voice of doom speaking!" :D

She said it not me

So long as she follows such bold claims up i'm sure you Tivo customers will be happy.

savvychels 30-04-2011 20:58

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35225667)
While I'm on a rant, and without being gender specific, it seems that the non techie person in the households are struggling to come to terms with the complexity of the TiVo. How many posts have we seen comments that the significant other just wants the V+ back?

Well speaking as one of that 'non specified gender' I am thoroughly happy with the TiVo, have had no issues coming to grips with it and while hubby hasn't had a chance to play with it properly yet, I keep astounding him showing him new things that it can do.

My only real 'wish' is that they develop the same technology that V+ had in order to drop the padding between two programmes. As it stands I cannot record 2 programmes at 9pm and also at 10pm without one of them clashing. I can of course look for a later recording or use a +1 channel, but then lost the HD option. It's not a huge issue, but it is on my wishlist. I've heard mention that it is going to be looked at, but is this for sure, or is it just on others' wishlists as well?

And when originally setting up all the series links we had it was really frustrating to have to go in and put the same settings in individually for every single one. It would be nice to have a 'global' setting and then if we wanted something different to then change that individually.

Oh, and it would also be nice to have the background 'record to DVD' like the V+ had. Yes, with a 1TB drive we don't 'need' it, but we do like to keep some things, and it would just be nice to be able to do so.

I don't see these as deal breakers or even real issues, just things that would make things easier.

Ref the 'reminder' I didn't use it on a regular basis, but sometimes it was nice if I spotted something I wanted to watch in a few minutes to just set a reminder so the TV would switch itself over if I got caught up with something else. So I can see why people want it even if most don't use it. I don't miss it for the most part, but on occasion it would be nice.

Overall I'm thrilled with the package and service. And one of my original boxes was faulty and I got a 'next day' app't to replace it and has been fine ever since.

Just my thoughts. I've actually been away for a week and just got back and am thrilled to see that all my programmes have recorded with no issues - unlike at times with the V+ where there have been reboots or hiccups and have lost all or part of some programmes in the past.

Well done Virgin and TiVo - keep up the good work and here's hoping a few of the 'issues' raised will be looked into in order to make a great product even better :)

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 20:58

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226028)
Well what would you like to see.

What i would like to see is say on the apps website that you are able to download the apps that you want to the box. Not search from the box as that would be a pain in the ass.
So not in the way of a smart-phone as i have not got any apps in the way shape or form on both my smart-phones.

denphone 30-04-2011 21:01

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35226032)
What i would like to see is say on the apps website that you are able to download the apps that you want to the box. Not search from the box as that would be a pain in the ass.
So not in the way of a smart-phone as i have not got any apps in the way shape or form on both my smart-phones.

Yes l quite like that idea.

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 21:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226038)
Yes l quite like that idea.

It would be a better idea than having all of them on the box and then having to search the ones that you use?

denphone 30-04-2011 21:03

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35226039)
It would be a better idea than having all of them on the box and then having to search the ones that you use?

l suppose it depends on how many apps they intend to have on tivo.

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 21:26

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226042)
l suppose it depends on how many apps they intend to have on tivo.

Who knows? These could be the only ones or as Cindy Rose has stated there could be hundreds, Your guess is as good as mine?

denphone 30-04-2011 21:30

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35226065)
Who knows? These could be the only ones or as Cindy Rose has stated there could be hundreds, Your guess is as good as mine?

Yes l am afraid you just don,t know with Virgin as their press releases bring more questions than answers

richardc1983 30-04-2011 21:34

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Well mine was installed this morning, I would like to know how u can watch something from catch up tv that was on channel 4 in the middle of the week. Three I'm a bed seems I can't search for shows without trawling through pages of listings. Also they need to make sure every page u can search with the letter keys on the remote and not by that stupid pre historic selecting a letter on screen.

devilincarnate 30-04-2011 21:34

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35226072)
Yes l am afraid you just don,t know with Virgin as their press releases bring more questions than answers

I never know as i have need to be told about 3 times so i understand what is happening:D:D:D:D

fixerman 30-04-2011 21:43

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226074)
Well mine was installed this morning, I would like to know how u can watch something from catch up tv that was on channel 4 in the middle of the week. Three I'm a bed seems I can't search for shows without trawling through pages of listings. Also they need to make sure every page u can search with the letter keys on the remote and not by that stupid pre historic selecting a letter on screen.

Playback directly from the backward EPG seems to down again. It seems to be an on going problem. Incredible when it was promoted as one of the big "must have" features.:confused:

richardc1983 30-04-2011 21:52

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35226083)
Playback directly from the backward EPG seems to down again. It seems to be an on going problem. Incredible when it was promoted as one of the big "must have" features.:confused:

I wil give the box 24 hours or I will be ringing CS and having something amended on my bill as not being sold a premium product only to have to go on the internet to watch it.

Cant eveen see three in a bed listed and the search facility is none existant for catch up... so far not impressed at all.

Can someone tell me how I can delete a whole folder of recordings in one click or do I have to delete every single show within that folder separatly.

Andy1 30-04-2011 22:12

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I dont follow why cant you search for the programme?

To delete the folder just press 'clear'

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226091)
I wil give the box 24 hours or I will be ringing CS and having something amended on my bill as not being sold a premium product only to have to go on the internet to watch it.

Cant eveen see three in a bed listed and the search facility is none existant for catch up... so far not impressed at all.

Can someone tell me how I can delete a whole folder of recordings in one click or do I have to delete every single show within that folder separatly.

You use 'search and browse' to find any programmes including 'on demand'. As your EPG builds its history day by day you will also be able to use that to search backwards.

I suspect 'Three in a bed' is one of the shows only available from the online 4OD.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 22:21

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I thought the whole point of this though is that there would be lots of content etc.

IT isnt obvious either how to use it... you say press clear but no where on screen does it show you that option or what to press so unless I asked I wouldnt know.

I do have to say it is dissapointing so far... to say I have paid £149 and then you have £3 a month for a few extra features such as extra tuner and wishlists etc the rest is kind of shoddy.

VirginMediaPhil 30-04-2011 22:27

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Right. First impressions.

Series link is so messy. You have to manually set the padding for each series link. Also, I have to set it to record new and reruns because the guide data doesn't work on just 'new' for about 99.99% of all shows. So now I have to delete a load of re-runs. So much for progress, eh? This is my biggest concern. This needs to be fixed. Get that guide data sorted (or return to the old V+ way of doing it) and bring back bulk padding. Also, why can I do the series link options as an overlay on search, but on the guide I have to go into the old SDUI? I'd rather it be an overlay on everything. It's almost as if it's unfinished.

I had completely forgotten about the automatic rewind/fast-forward skip back/forward and assumed it was a glitch or something. I thought it would be a good thing for me but I actually started to think it was bad. Anyway, I solve it by pressing the pause button twice instead of pressing the play button.

Right onto the good points! It's nice and fast. It doesn't take 2 seconds to pause anymore. I press pause, and it instantly pauses. I press play, and it instantly plays. The fast forward is really smooth, something I wouldn't expect on HD digital recordings. The rewind isn't as smooth, but it's still pretty smooth.

The fact I have 1TB on my hands hasn't hit me. It's like, even though I didn't have to worry about my box storage, as it rarely went over half full, I know don't ever have to worry about filling up my box with HD recordings. The box is bigger than I thought it would when I saw the pictures. It's the same width as the V+, I thought it would be smaller. But I don't mind about that, I have plenty of space.

Installation took around 4 hours. Yes, you read that right, 4 hours. There was a huge kerfuffle over moving the V+ into the other room which I won't bother going into, and the engineer trying to setup the remote by not turning the remote away from the box as instructed on screen, thereby turning the box off numerous times.

In the end though, it's all okay now. Apart from the series links, padding and skip-back quirks I don't like. But yeah, it's all fine.

ahardie 30-04-2011 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226106)
I thought the whole point of this though is that there would be lots of content etc.

IT isnt obvious either how to use it... you say press clear but no where on screen does it show you that option or what to press so unless I asked I wouldnt know.

I do have to say it is dissapointing so far... to say I have paid £149 and then you have £3 a month for a few extra features such as extra tuner and wishlists etc the rest is kind of shoddy.

There isn't a product on the market that suits everybody Richard. I would send it back and get your money back. That's what i will do if I don't like it.

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Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226107)
Right. First impressions.

Series link is so messy. You have to manually set the padding for each series link. Also, I have to set it to record new and reruns because the guide data doesn't work on just 'new' for about 99.99% of all shows. So now I have to delete a load of re-runs. So much for progress, eh? This is my biggest concern. This needs to be fixed. Get that guide data sorted (or return to the old V+ way of doing it) and bring back bulk padding. Also, why can I do the series link options as an overlay on search, but on the guide I have to go into the old SDUI? I'd rather it be an overlay on everything. It's almost as if it's unfinished.

I had completely forgotten about the automatic rewind/fast-forward skip back/forward and assumed it was a glitch or something. I thought it would be a good thing for me but I actually started to think it was bad. Anyway, I solve it by pressing the pause button twice instead of pressing the play button.

Right onto the good points! It's nice and fast. It doesn't take 2 seconds to pause anymore. I press pause, and it instantly pauses. I press play, and it instantly plays. The fast forward is really smooth, something I wouldn't expect on HD digital recordings. The rewind isn't as smooth, but it's still pretty smooth.

The fact I have 1TB on my hands hasn't hit me. It's like, even though I didn't have to worry about my box storage, as it rarely went over half full, I know don't ever have to worry about filling up my box with HD recordings. The box is bigger than I thought it would when I saw the pictures. It's the same width as the V+, I thought it would be smaller. But I don't mind about that, I have plenty of space.

Installation took around 4 hours. Yes, you read that right, 4 hours. There was a huge kerfuffle over moving the V+ into the other room which I won't bother going into, and the engineer trying to setup the remote by not turning the remote away from the box as instructed on screen, thereby turning the box off numerous times.

In the end though, it's all okay now. Apart from the series links, padding and skip-back quirks I don't like. But yeah, it's all fine.

Hows the picture quality for you VMP?

Andy1 30-04-2011 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226106)
I thought the whole point of this though is that there would be lots of content etc.

IT isnt obvious either how to use it... you say press clear but no where on screen does it show you that option or what to press so unless I asked I wouldnt know.

I do have to say it is dissapointing so far... to say I have paid £149 and then you have £3 a month for a few extra features such as extra tuner and wishlists etc the rest is kind of shoddy.

The on demand content is no more or less than with V+ and no one ever suggested Otherwise. Just set your season pass for 'three in a bed' and you will never need 4OD in future!

it seem quite obvious 'clear' will delete things and the guide book also explains it. V+ had similar shortcuts that were not prompted on screen.

I think you will really start to see the benefits the more you play with the Tivo but if not and you are happier with the VCR like approach of V+ then you should certainly cancel your contract.

VirginMediaPhil 30-04-2011 22:39

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Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35226108)
Hows the picture quality for you VMP?

When I first saw it, I thought it looked very soft. However I then realised I was watching Friends on Channel 4, a channel not known for showing Friends in a high broadcast quality. I changed the settings to put pillarboxes on 4:3 content, and it looked better. I watched BBC News, and that looked just like before. HD is the same, it's still very good.

muppetman11 30-04-2011 22:41

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35225897)
Exactly my sentiment from my earlier post #3120. I would be very annoyed, having pre-registered and waited patiently with a promise of a treat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226116)
The on demand content is no more or less than with V+ and no one ever suggested Otherwise. Just set your season pass for 'three in a bed' and you will never need 4OD in future!

it seem quite obvious 'clear' will delete things and the guide book also explains it. V+ had similar shortcuts that were not prompted on screen.

I think you will really start to see the benefits the more you play with the Tivo but if not and you are happier with the VCR like approach of V+ then you should certainly cancel your contract.

Seems a bit unfair to compare the V+ with a VCR :confused:

ahardie 30-04-2011 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226117)
When I first saw it, I thought it looked very soft. However I then realised I was watching Friends on Channel 4, a channel not known for showing Friends in a high broadcast quality. I changed the settings to put pillarboxes on 4:3 content, and it looked better. I watched BBC News, and that looked just like before. HD is the same, it's still very good.

That's good. Thanks.

Andy1 30-04-2011 22:56

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226120)
Seems a bit unfair to compare the V+ with a VCR :confused:

Perhaps unfair in terms of the data storage but not in terms of intelligence.

When I moved from Tivo S1 to V+ (for HD) I really could not believe the huge retrograde step in terms of user interface and functionality.

V+ records what you ask (if you are lucky!) nothing more - just like a VCR. it doesnt evn realise when a new series of something you have previously recorded has started.

Tivo is proactive - you tell it what you definately want to record and what programmes you like and it gets to work pulling in content for you proactively.

In these respects, at least, V+ is much closer to a VCR than to Tivo.

muppetman11 30-04-2011 23:01

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I suppose it's what you want really if I want to record Waterloo Road , I series link it and it records every week unlike one of the posters here who had recordings of it from every BBC channel , each to their own.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 23:09

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[QUOTE=ahardie;35226108]There isn't a product on the market that suits everybody Richard. I would send it back and get your money back. That's what i will do if I don't like it.[COLOR=Silver]
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I am very technical minded and wanted the next generation tv but even technical minded people need some instruction... on the screen the clear button should be shown what it does like for example one of the screens the last channel button shows up as being the search shortcut button.

I just feel that for a premium product that they are charging £150 for and £3 a month that there should be hardly any issues and as soon as they are reported a software fix should be put in place asap.

carlwaring 30-04-2011 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226107)
Series link is so messy. You have to manually set the padding for each series link. Also, I have to set it to record new and reruns because the guide data doesn't work on just 'new' for about 99.99% of all shows.

Weird. 99% of my SLs work fine with NO padding and record exactly the right episodes. But then again, I'm recording the popular shows on the popular channels. The data might get worse for the lesser shows on lesser channels.
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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226106)
I thought the whole point of this though is that there would be lots of content etc.

Erm... why did you think there would be any more content? You can only get the same channels and the same OD :confused:

cupcakes aka dd 30-04-2011 23:14

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OK I've only been out for the day, got back to find far too many post's on here today to catch up with.

PLEASE STOP POSTING UNTIL I CATCH UP :mad:

And yes I still love my Tivo.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226116)
The on demand content is no more or less than with V+ and no one ever suggested Otherwise. Just set your season pass for 'three in a bed' and you will never need 4OD in future!

it seem quite obvious 'clear' will delete things and the guide book also explains it. V+ had similar shortcuts that were not prompted on screen.

I think you will really start to see the benefits the more you play with the Tivo but if not and you are happier with the VCR like approach of V+ then you should certainly cancel your contract.

Clear to me means clear something on the screen like a guide or some text or something, delete would be a more appropriate word to use.

I am sure I will get to grips with it more once I get in touch but having come from sky where the on screen menus are really easy to use and you dont have to go across and select individual letters when you search for something the user interface seems a step down so far.

The only reason I wanted to watch three in a bed was because I had recorded it on sky and that was all disconnected this morning so I was hoping for this to be on the on demand.

Love the bbc iplayer and once this is integrated into the guide will be fab... Think the same should go for itv player and also 4od needs to have an app like iplayer.

VirginMediaPhil 30-04-2011 23:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226147)
Weird. 99% of my SLs work fine with NO padding and record exactly the right episodes. But then again, I'm recording the popular shows on the popular channels. The data might get worse for the lesser shows on lesser channels.

I set The Simpsons on Sky1 HD (the new episodes on Comedy Fridays) to record on 'New' only and it didn't appear on the guide as Series Link right afterwards, like on other series links when I chose 'New & Reruns', such as Modern Family which is right after The Simpsons on Comedy Fridays.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 23:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35226147)
Erm... why did you think there would be any more content? You can only get the same channels and the same OD :confused:

I dont know, i guess I just presumed (which is wrong to do) I jsut thought there would be more content.

I prefer how the tv catchup menus work on the V+ though and the fact you can search for things specifically in tv catchup.

Yes I know you can search for it in the general tv listings and go through to it that way but it doesnt seem to work and I have to trawl through episodes to get to the one I want and then it only gives me the option to go to on demand anyway screen anyway to search for it manually... again another thing that hasnt impressed me or flat mates. IN the advertising video that I showed them everyone was like wow but its so long winded.

WHen I was showing it to my flat mates tonight all these little things that should be working that are not have not impressed them and they think I am daft to have spent this ammount of money on something that has a longer way round of doing things than the V+.

Andy1 30-04-2011 23:46

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226136)
I suppose it's what you want really if I want to record Waterloo Road , I series link it and it records every week unlike one of the posters here who had recordings of it from every BBC channel , each to their own.

I have just tried this out and it just scheduled one recording for WR on BBC1 HD - so it looks like the fault is sorted or was specific to that box if not user error.

And unlike V+ it will now (shudder the thought) record every series of WR without me having to

a) realise a new series is starting
b) set up a new series pass

It will also proactively record and suggest lots of other content like Waterloo Road which I may not otherwise have discovered!

Yikes off to cancel a season pass! ;)

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226162)
I dont know, i guess I just presumed (which is wrong to do) I jsut thought there would be more content.

I prefer how the tv catchup menus work on the V+ though and the fact you can search for things specifically in tv catchup.

Yes I know you can search for it in the general tv listings and go through to it that way but it doesnt seem to work and I have to trawl through episodes to get to the one I want and then it only gives me the option to go to on demand anyway screen anyway to search for it manually... again another thing that hasnt impressed me or flat mates. IN the advertising video that I showed them everyone was like wow but its so long winded.

WHen I was showing it to my flat mates tonight all these little things that should be working that are not have not impressed them and they think I am daft to have spent this ammount of money on something that has a longer way round of doing things than the V+.

On the point about the EPG when you first get it the data is stored day by day ie in 3 days time you will have 3 days backwards EPG. It will never be an issue after the initial install.

You also have to wait for the programmes which will appear in catchup to be added (as you do with V+). i think its usually 24 hours. So in a couple of days you will certainly be able to play anything marked with a c in todays EPG straight from the EPG.

Hope that helps.

WDLaserjetGLOVER 30-04-2011 23:51

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I have set number of series links and had the programmes finish early.
I know I have to train myself to always add padding, but why?
In the olden days, before TV recorders, the channels were meticulous with their timing.
Now, in the age of PVRs, they are sloppy.
Only in exceptional circumstances did programmes overrun, now it is the norm.

richardc1983 30-04-2011 23:56

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Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226165)
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You also have to wait for the programmes which will appear in catchup to be added (as you do with V+). i think its usually 24 hours. So in a couple of days you will certainly be able to play anything marked with a c in todays EPG straight from the EPG.

Hope that helps.

I am seeing the C in todays listings but when I go into it just shows "go to catchup tv" for example britains got talent, this was on last week so I would expect it to let me access last weeks catchup program from tonights listing but it just tells me to go to catchup tv which takes me to the main screen. It doesnt seem integrated whereas it should automatically show me all episodes available when I click "go to catchup tv" from the epg even if I have just had the box installed today as this isnt something that is stored on my box.

Andy1 01-05-2011 00:19

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226190)
I am seeing the C in todays listings but when I go into it just shows "go to catchup tv" for example britains got talent, this was on last week so I would expect it to let me access last weeks catchup program from tonights listing but it just tells me to go to catchup tv which takes me to the main screen. It doesnt seem integrated whereas it should automatically show me all episodes available when I click "go to catchup tv" from the epg even if I have just had the box installed today as this isnt something that is stored on my box.

If you are searching through the EPG Tivo reasonably assumes you are looking to view the episode listed on the EPG. As soon as that is added to catch up it will play from there rather than send you to the search menu. As explained the boxes EPG data is populated day by day so a modicum of patience is required when the box is first installed!

If you want to see what episodes of BGT are available - past, present and future you simply go to 'Search and Browse'. When you type B it appears and under Episode Guide every episode for the last 4 years is listed and last week show is available to view on demand.

richardc1983 01-05-2011 00:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226203)
If you are searching through the EPG Tivo reasonably assumes you are looking to view the episode listed on the EPG. As soon as that is added to catch up it will play from there rather than send you to the search menu. As explained the boxes EPG data is populated day by day so a modicum of patience is required when the box is first installed!

If you want to see what episodes of BGT are available - past, present and future you simply go to 'Search and Browse'. When you type B it appears and under Episode Guide every episode for the last 4 years is listed and last week show is available to view on demand.

Thanks Andy, it would be handy to have a search feature within the on demdand screen as dont want to have to trawl through lots of other episodes to get to the one I want if that makes sense.

carlwaring 01-05-2011 00:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35226161)
I set The Simpsons on Sky1 HD (the new episodes on Comedy Fridays) to record on 'New' only and it didn't appear on the guide as Series Link right afterwards, like on other series links when I chose 'New & Reruns', such as Modern Family which is right after The Simpsons on Comedy Fridays.

Ahh. No experience with those shows. More of a drama/scifi man myself. No problems with the likes of Fringe or NCIS (on FX); occasionaly hiccups with Hawaii Five-0, House and NCIA:LA but nothing major.
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226136)
I suppose it's what you want really if I want to record Waterloo Road , I series link it and it records every week unlike one of the posters here who had recordings of it from every BBC channel , each to their own.

Sounds like that was a Wishlist rather than a Series Link.

Andy1 01-05-2011 00:45

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226215)
Thanks Andy, it would be handy to have a search feature within the on demdand screen as dont want to have to trawl through lots of other episodes to get to the one I want if that makes sense.

Yeah - Good point! - it could be worth adding that as a further option for that section.

Although if you use the A-Z there is no more than about 20 for any letter so it is just as quick. Dont forget the 'ch' down acts as 'page down' - which also speeds things up.

fixerman 01-05-2011 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226190)
I am seeing the C in todays listings but when I go into it just shows "go to catchup tv" for example britains got talent, this was on last week so I would expect it to let me access last weeks catchup program from tonights listing but it just tells me to go to catchup tv which takes me to the main screen. It doesnt seem integrated whereas it should automatically show me all episodes available when I click "go to catchup tv" from the epg even if I have just had the box installed today as this isnt something that is stored on my box.

Richard,

Despite what others are posting, the playback using the "c" hardly ever works. I have mine for over a week and during that time I was only able to use it once. If I try to use it I am directed straight to the VOD menu and have to start all over again.:mad:

The V+ was much better and simpler to use.:)

Andy1 01-05-2011 01:09

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35226227)
Richard,

Despite what others are posting, the playback using the "c" hardly ever works. I have mine for over a week and during that time I was only able to use it once. If I try to use it I am directed straight to the VOD menu and have to start all over again.:mad:

The V+ was much better and simpler to use.:)

It has worked on the couple of occasions I have used it but I do understand it is down at the moment. Not ideal - but teething problems (which should really have been sorted before launch) hardly undermine the long term value of the feature.

The V+ is better and simpler in the same way an abacus is better and simpler than a PC ;)

In terms of functionality v+ cannot compete with Tivo. People just need to get used to Tivo - obviously they will not initially find it as simple as a system they are experienced in using.

richardc1983 01-05-2011 01:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226234)
It has worked on the couple of occasions I have used it but I do understand it is down at the moment. Not ideal - but teething problems (which should really have been sorted before launch) hardly undermine the long term value of the feature.

The V+ is better and simpler in the same way an abacus is better and simpler than a PC ;)

In terms of functionality v+ cannot compete with Tivo. People just need to get used to Tivo - obviously they will not initially find it as simple as a system they are experienced in using.

Its all very well saying people will have to get used to it, I can do that very quickly but if features that are there but not working are you saying we have to get used to these issues?

Andy1 01-05-2011 01:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35226227)
Richard,

Despite what others are posting, the playback using the "c" hardly ever works. I have mine for over a week and during that time I was only able to use it once. If I try to use it I am directed straight to the VOD menu and have to start all over again.:mad:

The V+ was much better and simpler to use.:)

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226242)
Its all very well saying people will have to get used to it, I can do that very quickly but if features that are there but not working are you saying we have to get used to these issues?

Of course not. I think that is quite clear from my posts!

I just find it odd how some people seem fixated with a small number of very minor temporary 'teething problems' when there are so many positives!

richardc1983 01-05-2011 01:55

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Well I am new to TiVo so im sure you can understand that I havent discovered everything yet but I do find that the box is slower than sky and the V+ (will this improve in the coming days?)

The other problems should not be there if it had been tested properly and as it is a premium product virgin media should have these rectified immediately.

Andy1 01-05-2011 02:10

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Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226248)
Well I am new to TiVo so im sure you can understand that I havent discovered everything yet but I do find that the box is slower than sky and the V+ (will this improve in the coming days?)

The other problems should not be there if it had been tested properly and as it is a premium product virgin media should have these rectified immediately.

Absolutely - it takes time to discover all the benefits.

I agree about the problems - should be sorted by now. These seem more related to the ongoing service (EPG data, catch-up links) than the hardware.

I find the box much faster and responsive than v+ but I didnt use it much during the first 24 hours. The initial data download may be slowing things down for you.

Some people have also reported a slowing down as the hard drive gets full but as I have not been above 12% full I couldnt comment on that.

TMLeafs 01-05-2011 02:49

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The EPG data is really starting to **** me off everyone going on about tivo is so clever but only if the data is there.

Click records like 6 times a week due to there being no episode data at all

Ace of Cakes new season set to new only nothing had to set it to new and reruns recorded 32 episodes in a week :(

Mythbusters new season new only recorded the wrong epsiodes had to set it to new and reruns

Bear Grylls set to new only recorded 6 random epsiodes a week ago which wasnt new then nothing which is good as there isnt.

Working ones
Fatal Attractions
Deadliest Catch
Megastructures
10 O'Clock Live
The Hotel
Monster Inside Me
MasterChef
Dual survival

Suggestions started off well with things I missed to set up Series Links for now its just recording 1 out of 5 that I might be worth a look at.

How many SL's do you have I have 29 so far but I keep forgetting stuff as I never see the adverts for them lol thats the annoying part of a PVR you need to be reading a TV guide to see whats new

blackthorn 01-05-2011 06:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WDLaserjetGLOVER (Post 35226188)
I have set number of series links and had the programmes finish early.
I know I have to train myself to always add padding, but why?
In the olden days, before TV recorders, the channels were meticulous with their timing.
Now, in the age of PVRs, they are sloppy.
Only in exceptional circumstances did programmes overrun, now it is the norm.

I`ve just learnt that the hard way. I came home from work and settled down to watch Dr Who after my tea and it finshed about 4 mins early.
Anyone know if it actually did start early or finish early or maybe the tivo clock is a few minutes out.

Mr Fell 01-05-2011 08:19

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Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35226261)
I`ve just learnt that the hard way. I came home from work and settled down to watch Dr Who after my tea and it finshed about 4 mins early.
Anyone know if it actually did start early or finish early or maybe the tivo clock is a few minutes out.

That happened with us on catch up and when I rewound it back to the point just before it stopped - lo and behold it played on to the end past the point where it stopped.:)

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We had our install on Thursday and thus far I am impressed. Does anybody have any idea what games and apps may be added?

muppetman11 01-05-2011 09:42

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Originally Posted by Andy1 (Post 35226250)
Absolutely - it takes time to discover all the benefits.

I agree about the problems - should be sorted by now. These seem more related to the ongoing service (EPG data, catch-up links) than the hardware.

I find the box much faster and responsive than v+ but I didnt use it much during the first 24 hours. The initial data download may be slowing things down for you.

Some people have also reported a slowing down as the hard drive gets full but as I have not been above 12% full I couldnt comment on that.

No offence here Andy but looking at your posts it would appear to me that you are either working for VM or TIVO , im not sure which.

Perfect Choice 01-05-2011 09:43

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One thing you need to look out for. If you set up a series link for a programme, any new series link automatically goes to the bottom of the list of the series links and so lowest priority.

I set up a series links for Doctor Who Confidential both last weekend and yesterday and they didn’t work. Found out that there were 2 other series links programmes running at the time and one with padding on the end so Doctor Who Confidential didn’t record at the time as it was lowest priority.

Now I know Tivo will go off and find a repeat viewing of the programme and record that instead (assuming 1 is available), but you don’t know that at the time!

For me I just moved the series link up the priority list and it recorded the programme.

Digital Fanatic 01-05-2011 09:43

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richardc1983 (Post 35226190)
I am seeing the C in todays listings but when I go into it just shows "go to catchup tv" for example britains got talent, this was on last week so I would expect it to let me access last weeks catchup program from tonights listing but it just tells me to go to catchup tv which takes me to the main screen. It doesnt seem integrated whereas it should automatically show me all episodes available when I click "go to catchup tv" from the epg even if I have just had the box installed today as this isnt something that is stored on my box.

The TiVo Team are aware of the Catch Up EPG fault and should have it fixed after the Bank Holiday.

denphone 01-05-2011 09:50

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Fell (Post 35226265)
That happened with us on catch up and when I rewound it back to the point just before it stopped - lo and behold it played on to the end past the point where it stopped.:)

---------- Post added at 07:19 ---------- Previous post was at 07:18 ----------

We had our install on Thursday and thus far I am impressed. Does anybody have any idea what games and apps may be added?

No not at the moment.

howardmicks 01-05-2011 10:18

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
New series of the apprentice starts a week on tuesday,on bbc 1 its aknowledged as new but on bbc1hd its not.Really wish they would sort this epg out surely its common sense if it states new on bbc1 its also new on bbc1hd

Andy1 01-05-2011 10:40

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35226274)
No offence here Andy but looking at your posts it would appear to me that you are either working for VM or TIVO , im not sure which.

No offence taken but I can assure you I have connection to either other than as a customer.

I discovered Tivo in about 2001 and was immediately blown away by the experience delivered by the Series 1 box.

I reluctantly switched to V+ when it was launched for its HD and multiple tuner abilities and have been hugely disappointed with its limited functionality, lack of reliability and slow performance.

I am just glad to finally have a box which combines the hardware (HD and multiple tuner) benefits of V+ with the Tivo interface and functionality + lots of great new features like remote record scheduling.

In my experience most people who live with Tivo for any length of time become real fans of the experience - and, for my sins, I am one of just one of them! :)

chrisidaho 01-05-2011 10:42

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Installed yesterday PM was installers 5th install and he pretty much had it down to a fine art, plug in tivo and adjust levels, relocate V+ box to bedroom, check which card Virgin wanted to be put in V+ now and remove V box. Back to tivo to finish install and and give me a comprehensive demo and then down the road to tag our cable in the local headend.

So far i am pretty impressed with the box and the wife seems happy too ;) there are obviously still some teething issues, which is normal with any new product in my experience but it is actually fun searching for stuff and adding recordings, wish lists etc. Box seems nippier than the V+ but i have barely scratched the surface of the hard disk so far. PQ is marginally softer than V+ on SD, looks identical in HD to my eyes, but iplayer is definetly poorer and i hope this gets sorted :erm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Fell (Post 35226265)
That happened with us on catch up and when I rewound it back to the point just before it stopped - lo and behold it played on to the end past the point where it stopped.:)

---------- Post added at 07:19 ---------- Previous post was at 07:18 ----------

We had our install on Thursday and thus far I am impressed. Does anybody have any idea what games and apps may be added?

I am sure i read some where that picasa would be added, which would be a great way to view your photos online imo


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