Cable Forum - Coronavirus

Hide behind best judgement, difficult decisions to be made quickly, etc. Limitations of the scope of the study. Wave a Union Flag and slag off Brussels. Go to the House of Lords, pass go and collect £163 a day.

Plenty of opportunities as long as you stay on the right side of the fence where you look borderline incompetent at worst. Just look at Jenny Harries.

If I've understood you correctly, I don't think that's fair.

The whole vaccine thing, as you know, has been rushed in order to minimise long term national damage. You've said as much in the first sentence of the first paragraph. The rest of the first paragraph is gratuitous rubbish.

Maggy

14-04-2021 09:59

Re: Coronavirus

I feel like this thread has ceased to be a discussion about the world's present predicament and has become nothing more than point scoring.

Carth

14-04-2021 10:04

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36076872)

I feel like this thread has ceased to be a discussion about the world's present predicament and has become nothing more than point scoring.

It's taken you this long? ;) :D

Sephiroth

14-04-2021 10:17

Re: Coronavirus

The world's present predicament is Iran/Israel. There's no vaccine for that.

Anyway, to Cornavirus. Boris has warned that what's going on in Europe might well happen here and the South London SA variety episode shows just how fragile things are. I think that the Guvmin's roadmap is very sensible and allows an assessment to be made during each advancement stage, based on the numbers.

Hugh	14-04-2021 10:34

Re: Coronavirus

^^^^
.THIS.

Maggy

14-04-2021 11:06

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36076873)

It's taken you this long? ;) :D

No! I'm just trying to get up the energy to put my moderator hat on.

pip08456

15-04-2021 18:11

Re: Coronavirus

An interesting article Re-Lockdowns.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...t-the-evidence

Hugh	15-04-2021 18:37

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He’s anti-lockdown* and called for "herd immunity" last year, didn’t he?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...herd-immunity/

* The Great Barrington declaration signatory

jonbxx

15-04-2021 19:01

Re: Coronavirus

Found this preprint paper today on who funded the chimpanzee adenovirus vaccine technology and COVID vaccine development at Oxford University - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...103v1.full.pdf

Lots of money invested there but also shows the lack of transparency in academic funding.

pip08456

15-04-2021 19:55

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077017)

He’s anti-lockdown* and called for "herd immunity" last year, didn’t he?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...herd-immunity/

* The Great Barrington declaration signatory

Does this make the article less interesting? I made no statement of agreement nor denial of the content.

You have a habit of apparently knowing what I am thinking. Good luck with that!

jfman

15-04-2021 20:03

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36077026)

Does this make the article less interesting? I made no statement of agreement nor denial of the content.

You have a habit of apparently knowing what I am thinking. Good luck with that!

Yes it makes it less interesting because the author has been consistently wrong throughout the pandemic.

Some creative data analysis, shifting some assumptions and removing other key parts of decision making (NHS capacity) make for a thought experiment in fiction but no genuinely interesting analysis.

As I’ve said before throw some coin in the direction of academics and they’ll produce anything you like. Answers on demand. Like legal advice they’ll stretch the bounds of reality as long as it stretches their trouser pocket.

Suspect he woke up in the morning wondering how to get paid by the Spectator.

pip08456

15-04-2021 20:06

Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36077030)

Are you saying the Imperial modelling (et al) has been consistantly correct?

jfman

15-04-2021 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36077031)

Are you saying the Imperial modelling (et al) has been consistantly correct?

No, or else I’d have used those words instead of the ones I opted to.

Hugh	15-04-2021 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36077026)

Does this make the article less interesting? I made no statement of agreement nor denial of the content.

You have a habit of apparently knowing what I am thinking. Good luck with that!

I didn’t comment on what you were, or weren’t, thinking - I commented on the author’s/Spectator’s inclination to be anti-lockdown/pro-herd immunity (cf. Tony Young et al).

You have a habit of apparently projecting your behaviours/inclinations on to others - good luck with that!

jfman

15-04-2021 21:28

Re: Coronavirus

Here’s an ”interesting read” re pandemics.

https://www.pandata.org/wp-content/u...VID-Policy.pdf

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