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Pardon me if I find that all a little hollow, coming from one whose team isn't even in Germany this month.

Guff? I could say 'same to you with knobs on' ... but that would be childish.

:shrug:

;)

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Soo bitter...

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Has anyone got a slice of humble pie i could eat? :)

Well having said Sweden will beat them, Im still not convinced England will progress beyond the next round. Although didnt owen Hargreaves do well.and as for Joe Cole's goal, mmmmmmmmm

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Indeed. If he'd just even acknowledged that in the first half England were indeed NOT guff, I'd have the tiniest bit of respect for TBRs opinions. BUt he's just proven, it's bitter bitter bitter all the way for him. :rolleyes:

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Hargreaves did do well in the first half (much to my surpise, as I think he's generally crap), but went back to true form in the second half. Englands defending was POOR, especially for Swedens second goal. Very poor indeed. BUt they CAN do better, and I beleive they will. :tu:

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I think it was a bit much to call England 'guff' but with the exception of Rooney and Joe Cole it was another unimpressive performance. Now don't be silly and say that Brazil etc haven't had good games either because this isn't about Brazil! Despite the thread title, I think we can see which team has had the most discussion ;)

Of course you do! And I believe they won't :)

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This is coming from someone who's team weren't even good enough to qualify for the competition in the first place ;)

I am no great fan of Crouch, but at least he has some experience of playing in high level games, unlike Walcott. :erm: I really do think that taking Walcott was a massive mistake. He may be a great future talent, but that is what it is, the future not now.

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Crouch did nothing yesterday and seeing as he was on a yellow already, another booking would have rendered him out for the next game anyway. And also, we could afford to lose the game, so why not bring on Walcott? He's played at under 21 national games - how is he supposed to get experience if the swede won't even play him? Waste of a plane ticket if you ask me. The swede should also have taken Defoe with him. Sometimes, I think the swede wants England to lose...

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The Swede should definately have bought on Walcott either for Owen or Rooney. What is the point of taking him to the world cup? Wasnt Gerrard also on a yellow card? The swede hasnt got anything to lose now, he wont be england manager after the world cup, and as a result I dont think he really cares anymore.

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Fair enough, I won't mention Brazil then. But all those 'anyone but england' fan boys are saying England won't win because they've been unimpressive. But if most of the other teams have been unimpressive too (which they have IMO with a couple of exceptions), why do they think England don't stand a chance? You can't have it both ways. :shrug:


You hope they won't you mean. :rolleyes:

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Because England simply aren't good enough - easy. Other teams have misfired but are impressive sides and play well togather. IMO the same cannot be said about England.

No, as I've said throughout this thread I hope England win. But I know they won't! :)

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After all, it doesn't matter how bad you are, as long as you are better than the other teams.

One thing I really don't understand is being shown in this thread. Barring any previous racial problems (which we have been told are irrelevant to the discussion) between the English and Scots (and to a certain extent, the Welsh), why can certain members note be happy that at least one team in our Kingdom is doing OK. Why have the attitude that "My team have failed, everyone else should too"?

I personally want England to win the world cup. They probably won't, but they seem to be having a go at it. But, I would be perfectly happy to see Scotland, Wales or Ireland do well, or even Win.

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That's the difference bewteen them and us. If England weren't in it and ROI were, I'd be after ROI (mothers team), or Spain (dads home). And I certainly wouldn't be supporting 'anyone but Scotland or Wales'. It's incredibly childish and bitter.

I think England stand as good a chance as any. We do need to click more (and I think that started yesterday), but as players go, ours ARE amongst the best in the world.

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Wales = Scotland Lite, still bitter, but at least have the wit to try and cover it up :D

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Having lived in both Wales and Scotland, I am sad to say that nationalism in both countries does have an unfortunate, negative, bitter streak to it. This is not to say that 'the Welsh' or 'the Scots' are negative, bitter people. Far from it. But there is a group within the nationalist-sympathising people of those nations who seem able to express their national pride only in terms of hatred towards England and an utterly bizarre denial of the connection between the home nations in these islands.

Scotland may, just, become an independent nation one day, or at the very least an autonomous one within the UK. At the moment, however, its just not mature enough. Unionists have nothing to fear until Scotland grows up enough to choose something other than a song about a 700-year-old military victory over England as its 'national anthem'.

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Been explained loads of times in this thread, it's not our problem if you haven't read it yet!

Me too.

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In some parts of Wales possibly - but that's like saying when I lived in Oxford for 6 months in 2001 I found out that anti-Welsh and nationalist feelings exist in England.

You get it anywhere mate!