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mrmistoffelees 23-03-2019 16:29
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35988302)
Absolutely right, and those fighting against that decision of the electorate are not democrats.

Your understanding of democracy is somewhat skewed. So long as they’re not doing anything illegal they have every right to continue

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35988305)
Nor should subverting the Referendum result - but that's what those MPs are doing. That is bad for democracy.

People expressing their democratic right to protest does not constitute the subverting of democracy

Parliament voting in what they believe to be the country’s best interests does not constitute the subverting of democracy

MP’s are the representatives of the people not the delegates I do wish you would understand that

Carth 23-03-2019 16:32
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35988307)
Your understanding of democracy is somewhat skewed. So long as they’re not doing anything illegal they have every right to continue
Even when caught doing something illegal they often carry on :D

Angua 23-03-2019 16:32
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35988283)
Some genuine facts here.

Sephiroth 23-03-2019 16:36
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35988307)
Your understanding of democracy is somewhat skewed. So long as they’re not doing anything illegal they have every right to continue

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People expressing their democratic right to protest does not constitute the subverting of democracy

Parliament voting in what they believe to be the country’s best interests does not constitute the subverting of democracy

MP’s are the representatives of the people not the delegates I do wish you would understand that
Please do not patronise me.

There is no real meaning to what you say. So, they are "representatives" - big deal. Their duty is to respect the Referendum result and, in so doing, represent the 52% more than the 48%. Indeed, many Remain sympathetic MPs do respect the result, but rather a large number of perfidious MPs are trying to subvert Brexit.

Furthermore, the Labour leadership, so called representatives, are politicking; positioning themselves so as to get into power and hang the Referendum result.

mrmistoffelees 23-03-2019 16:43
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35988311)
Please do not patronise me.

There is no real meaning to what you say. So, they are "representatives" - big deal. Their duty is to respect the Referendum result and, in so doing, represent the 52% more than the 48%. Indeed, many Remain sympathetic MPs do respect the result, but rather a large number of perfidious MPs are trying to subvert Brexit.

Furthermore, the Labour leadership, so called representatives, are politicking; positioning themselves so as to get into power and hang the Referendum result.

I’m apologise you feel that you’re being patronised but that’s quite simply not the case.

Their duty is to act in the best interests of the nation as a whole as they see fit It’s that simple no ifs no buts

1andrew1 23-03-2019 18:09
Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35988297)
No such thing as a hardliner. I voted to leave and expect to leave, nothing hard or extreme about it.
To clarify, I'm talking about the hardline MPs she's pandered to not the folk here on Cable Forum.

papa smurf 23-03-2019 18:29
Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35988317)
To clarify, I'm talking about the hardline MPs she's pandered to not the folk here on Cable Forum.
You mean those who insist on honouring the election manifesto and the result of the referendum.

Pierre 23-03-2019 18:50
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https://briefingsforbrexit.com/the-u...-a-wto-brexit/

We could all survive the nuclear option quite happily, that’s why we shouldn’t do anymore can kicking and either sign up to the deal or just leave.

Hugh 23-03-2019 18:54
Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35988311)
Please do not patronise me.

There is no real meaning to what you say. So, they are "representatives" - big deal. Their duty is to respect the Referendum result and, in so doing, represent the 52% more than the 48%. Indeed, many Remain sympathetic MPs do respect the result, but rather a large number of perfidious MPs are trying to subvert Brexit.

Furthermore, the Labour leadership, so called representatives, are politicking; positioning themselves so as to get into power and hang the Referendum result.
I didn’t realise that Gove, Johnson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Raab, Jarvis, Hunt, et al were in the Labour Leadership team... ;)

Sephiroth 23-03-2019 19:31
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35988321)
I didn’t realise that Gove, Johnson, Leadsom, Rees-Mogg, Raab, Jarvis, Hunt, et al were in the Labour Leadership team... ;)
My remark was directed entirely at Labour.

That said, of course your sarcasm does also highlight fault line in the Conservative party - but not for the same reason as what Labour is doing.

1andrew1 23-03-2019 20:30
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35988319)
You mean those who insist on honouring the election manifesto and the result of the referendum.
No, it's just a standard term used to describe some politicians.

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This might be something which many of us agree on! :)

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Calls grow for public inquiry into Brexit
Investigation could look at ballot wording, May’s red lines and negotiation strategy
Calls for a public inquiry into Brexit are mounting among diplomats, business figures, peers and MPs, amid claims that the civil service is already planning for a future investigation into how it has been handled.
The decision to call the referendum, the red lines drawn up by Theresa May and Britain’s negotiating strategy are all issues that senior figures would like to be examined.
Bob Kerslake, the former head of the civil service, said an inquiry was needed into “the biggest humiliation since Suez, certainly since the IMF crisis [in 1976]”. The cross-party peer said he believed the civil service “is both expecting and preparing for this”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ry-into-brexit

jfman 23-03-2019 21:44
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Cabinet coup “in progress”.

Mr K 23-03-2019 22:02
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35988330)
Cabinet coup “in progress”.
I recommend garlic , a stake, some sunlight and a mirror ;)

1andrew1 23-03-2019 22:12
Re: Brexit (New).
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35988330)
Cabinet coup “in progress”.
Indeed, all over the Sunday press. Looks like Gove, one of the more able ministers is being tipped as her replacement. https://news.sky.com/story/sundays-n...pages-11673807

Mr K 23-03-2019 22:28
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35988333)
Indeed, all over the Sunday press. Looks like Gove, one of the more able ministers is being tipped as her replacement. https://news.sky.com/story/sundays-n...pages-11673807
Oily snake Gove, well there's a surprise (not).


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