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Chad 05-08-2015 23:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35792156)
Another example of the crazy world of media, where the needs of customers are of secondary consideration.

BT are proving to be cut from the same cloth as SKY. Exclusive HD channels, an exclusive Ultra HD channel and of course AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month. BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk! If anything, BT are withholding more channels and content from their competition than any other broadcaster in the UK.

1andrew1 05-08-2015 23:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month.

BT Sport subscribers on the Sky platform will get AMC as well.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk!

Good point, I guess TalkTalk doesn't have the same negotiating muscle as VM does.

muppetman11 05-08-2015 23:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
BT are proving to be cut from the same cloth as SKY. Exclusive HD channels, an exclusive Ultra HD channel and of course AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month. BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk! If anything, BT are withholding more channels and content from their competition than any other broadcaster in the UK.

Just look at their BT Sport pricing on the Sky platform if you don't take BT Broadband , the other tv provider who uses the Openreach network for it's broadband (Talk Talk) also haven't been able to negotiate a wholesale deal.

Funny that isn't it.

theone2k10 05-08-2015 23:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
BT are proving to be cut from the same cloth as SKY. Exclusive HD channels, an exclusive Ultra HD channel and of course AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month. BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk! If anything, BT are withholding more channels and content from their competition than any other broadcaster in the UK.

VM,SKY,BT and talktalk all need their heads banging together i add talktalk in because of their awful customer service lol.

On another note all btsport channels launchrd today on Plusnet tv.

1andrew1 06-08-2015 00:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35792173)
VM,SKY,BT and talktalk all need their heads banging together i add talktalk in because of their awful customer service lol.

If you don't like the above companies, a reminder that Vodafone TV should launch in November this year.

Chad 06-08-2015 00:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
There is so many TV providers, with so many TV options. The only real problem is not 1 really hits the nail firmly on the head for me in terms of value and over the top services.

The ideal set up for me would be a hybrid between Youview and over the top on demand. So you'd have all freeview channels plus catch up for iPlayer, ITV Player, All 4, Demand 5, UKTV on demand plus Quest on demand free as standard. From there the ideal service would include Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV with the option of adding additional streaming apps for the likes of BT Sport, Boxnation and WWE Network. All these apps exist but they're spread our over a series of streaming devices.

That would be a winner for me. Neat and tidy all available via one PVR. If one of the newer TV providers could somehow pull this off, I think they'd be onto a real winner. Especially if they offered all services in 1 monthly payment. For 17mb broadband, line rental, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV I'd be happy to pay between £35 and £40 per month.

theone2k10 06-08-2015 01:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35792178)
If you don't like the above companies, a reminder that Vodafone TV should launch in November this year.

Will be keeping a eye on that one.

harry_hitch 06-08-2015 02:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792181)
There is so many TV providers, with so many TV options. The only real problem is not 1 really hits the nail firmly on the head for me in terms of value and over the top services.

The ideal set up for me would be a hybrid between Youview and over the top on demand. So you'd have all freeview channels plus catch up for iPlayer, ITV Player, All 4, Demand 5, UKTV on demand plus Quest on demand free as standard. From there the ideal service would include Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV with the option of adding additional streaming apps for the likes of BT Sport, Boxnation and WWE Network. All these apps exist but they're spread our over a series of streaming devices.

That would be a winner for me. Neat and tidy all available via one PVR. If one of the newer TV providers could somehow pull this off, I think they'd be onto a real winner. Especially if they offered all services in 1 monthly payment. For 17mb broadband, line rental, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV I'd be happy to pay between £35 and £40 per month.

OB has been saying this for a while Chad. Can't ever see it happening.

denphone 06-08-2015 05:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
BT are proving to be cut from the same cloth as SKY. Exclusive HD channels, an exclusive Ultra HD channel and of course AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month. BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk! If anything, BT are withholding more channels and content from their competition than any other broadcaster in the UK.

And yet Ofcom do diddly squat about it.

Richc1977 06-08-2015 10:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
BT are proving to be cut from the same cloth as SKY. Exclusive HD channels, an exclusive Ultra HD channel and of course AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month. BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk! If anything, BT are withholding more channels and content from their competition than any other broadcaster in the UK.

True, but I'd say to compete with SKY I imagine you have to play them at their own game.

SKY took on BT at BB and also withheld key content (still do) such as SS3, SS4, F1 and HD versions plus other content. So no wonder BT decided to try and take control back and buy content for themselves and then withhold it from SKY. At least they have bargaining chips now. It took bargaining chips for Virgin to get first the SKY basic channels back and then all the sport in HD, i.e sale of UK TV stake and deal over cable network.

As to your statement, you can't really count Ultra HD when no other competitor currently has a means to distribute it yet. SKY are launching a new box in the coming months, but VM I imagine will be last to the party.

heavyside 06-08-2015 11:20

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[QUOTE=1andrew1;35792165]BT Sport subscribers on the Sky platform will get AMC as well.[COLOR="Silver"/][QUOTE]

If that's the case then surely Virgin Media subscribers who also get BT Sport as part of their package will get AMC too? Or am I being naive?

Ultimate.Conj 06-08-2015 11:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Could there be a chance that VM have also agreed a deal for the AMC channel but are holding back on the advertising of it?

If Sky customers can get it with the BT Sports pack, wouldn't VM have tried to include this in the deal for their customers too?

Just a thought, that's all...

muppetman11 06-08-2015 11:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35792210)

True, but I'd say to compete with SKY I imagine you have to play them at their own game.

SKY took on BT at BB and also withheld key content (still do) such as SS3, SS4, F1 and HD versions plus other content. So no wonder BT decided to try and take control back and buy content for themselves and then withhold it from SKY. At least they have bargaining chips now. It took bargaining chips for Virgin to get first the SKY basic channels back and then all the sport in HD, i.e sale of UK TV stake and deal over cable network.

As to your statement, you can't really count Ultra HD when no other competitor currently has a means to distribute it yet. SKY are launching a new box in the coming months, but VM I imagine will be last to the party.

But they don't wholesale to Talk Talk either another of their competitors who use the Openreach network for their Broadband service , they aren't involved in the content war.

Dave42 06-08-2015 11:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792164)
BT are proving to be cut from the same cloth as SKY. Exclusive HD channels, an exclusive Ultra HD channel and of course AMC launching exclusively on BT later this month. BT Sports still hasn't even launched on Talk Talk! If anything, BT are withholding more channels and content from their competition than any other broadcaster in the UK.

they complain about sky and do exactly the same bleeding hypocrites they both bad as each other

denphone 06-08-2015 11:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35792228)
they complain about sky and do exactly the same bleeding hypocrites they both bad as each other

Yep both as bad as each other sadly.:(


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