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1andrew1 14-11-2014 15:06
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35741030)
It does seem crazy that, in order to get these channels, we have to additional services which duplicate much of the content already available from VM.
It would be crazier if Sky's Now TV service just charged you £1.50pm for Sky Atlantic on its own as the whole point of keeping Sky Atlantic exclusive is to make Sky TV's package more attractive than its competitors' packages.

jj20x 14-11-2014 17:44
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35741032)
It would be crazier if Sky's Now TV service just charged you £1.50pm for Sky Atlantic on its own as the whole point of keeping Sky Atlantic exclusive is to make Sky TV's package more attractive than its competitors' packages.
Obviously, for Sky, it's a bonus. They get paid for providing duplicate services. For the consumer, it's not so good. The consumer has to pay extra, to duplicate services they already receive from their existing provider, and has to deal with the clutter of additional boxes.

I certainly wouldn't pay Sky to access services they are basically withholding from other providers. That just encourages them to withhold more.

jodash 14-11-2014 20:20
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35740921)
MB Views: Is Virgin Media still in talks with LFC TV?

Is Virgin Media still in talks with Liverpool FC over its new HD Channel?

The "Channel no longer broadcasting" screen has been on air over the past two weeks now and still to be removed from Virgin Channel 544.

The last time Virgin did this was when ESPN was axe for two weeks just for it to reappear as part of the BT Sport deal.

Note: LFCTV was still on Virgin Channel 544 at time of posting.
I did tweet VM and got the reply they were "In talks! same said for MUTV HD

RichardCoulter 14-11-2014 22:32
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35741028)
Possibly, but it's not rocket science. They already carried the channels and should have had a reasonably good idea of what would make it onto the on-demand service.
Especially as they used to own 50% of the UKTV channels :D

IIRC the UKTV VOD service was created just before VM sold their stake in the company.

I do know for a fact that both Sky and Virgin Media were offered the service on exactly the same terms- Sky decided to take them up on it and VM didn't for the reasons given earlier.

I am making an assumption that UKTV have now decided to let VM have the service at the price they were willing to pay- a lower income stream than expected from a product is better than not providing it and receiving nothing.

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Originally Posted by jodash (Post 35741089)
I did tweet VM and got the reply they were "In talks! same said for MUTV HD
The mystery deepens...

denphone 15-11-2014 06:39
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35741025)
Hmmm, could be worth watching.

The channel does seem to be getting off to a slow start. As the planning stage for this channel must have been some time ago, I would have expected them to commission new material at that stage.
Hopefully we will get this channel sometime next year.

OLD BOY 15-11-2014 16:11
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35741025)
Hmmm, could be worth watching.

The channel does seem to be getting off to a slow start. As the planning stage for this channel must have been some time ago, I would have expected them to commission new material at that stage.
No, it's as intended. The channel was always going to rely on repeats during its first year.

Hopefully, the new stuff will coincide with the end of the exclusivity period with Sky and the channel will be launched on VM at that time.

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Originally Posted by leathertrousers2 (Post 35741029)
Someone needs to explain to me the importance of Sky Atlantic as again everything is online and in the right places free. Why fund Murdoch any further?
Because we don't want to pay any more for it, nor do we want to view it on our computers or through additional equipment.

It's only free if you view it unlawfully or through an existing subscription using Unblockus or something like that.

Frankly, I just want to watch these programmes on my TIVO box. I am annoyed that we have to jump through hoops in the way you describe.

vincerooney 15-11-2014 17:11
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35741057)
Obviously, for Sky, it's a bonus. They get paid for providing duplicate services. For the consumer, it's not so good. The consumer has to pay extra, to duplicate services they already receive from their existing provider, and has to deal with the clutter of additional boxes.

I certainly wouldn't pay Sky to access services they are basically withholding from other providers. That just encourages them to withhold more.
spot on! thats exactly how i feel.

Superblade7 15-11-2014 19:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35741030)
It does seem crazy that, in order to get these channels, we have to additional services which duplicate much of the content already available from VM.
I can see your point of view but I have a different view on it. I bought a TV for the bedroom about a year ago with the intention to get an additional STB installed by VM. Due to the package I was on it would have cost me about £11 a month extra to get a V HD box installed in the bedroom.

I therefore looked for alternatives and ended up getting a Roku streaming stick and Now TV. This gives me access to the on demand services of all the main channels I watch along with the added bonus of Sky Atlantic and up until this month, only cost me £4.99 per month compared to the £11.00 it would have been with VM.

So in a strange way, VM actually helped me get Sky Atlantic albeit probably not they way they would have liked!

jj20x 15-11-2014 21:10
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35741220)
No, it's as intended. The channel was always going to rely on repeats during its first year.
I know that's what ITV planned, I just find it odd that they introduce a new, supposedly premium, channel and for the first year only show repeats.

Quote:
Hopefully, the new stuff will coincide with the end of the exclusivity period with Sky and the channel will be launched on VM at that time.
Which raises the question, why would Sky fund a period of exclusivity for a channel only showing repeats? We don't know how long the channel will be exclusive to Sky. I suspect that it may extend further, into the period when ITV Encore starts showing original content.

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Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35741268)
I can see your point of view but I have a different view on it. I bought a TV for the bedroom about a year ago with the intention to get an additional STB installed by VM. Due to the package I was on it would have cost me about £11 a month extra to get a V HD box installed in the bedroom.
That's not really a different point of view but a different scenario. If you choose to have a Now TV box in another location instead of adding a V HD box you aren't duplicating services at that location. If you can do that and save money and still get the services you require that is all well and good.

jobbie8 15-11-2014 22:59
I got a NowTV box with 4 months free entertainment pass, just to see what the service was like.
It's in my bedroom on top of one of my 3 Tivos. NowTV offers what I want, Fox, Atlantic, Spotify and it's very fast. Only thing is Netflix is missing.
I am now thinking about dropping at the very least my 3rd Tivo for a streaming box.
Virgin need to speed the Tivo up a lot.

theone2k10 16-11-2014 00:08
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Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35741288)
I got a NowTV box with 4 months free entertainment pass, just to see what the service was like.
It's in my bedroom on top of one of my 3 Tivos. NowTV offers what I want, Fox, Atlantic, Spotify and it's very fast. Only thing is Netflix is missing.
I am now thinking about dropping at the very least my 3rd Tivo for a streaming box.
Virgin need to speed the Tivo up a lot.
Regarding netflix you can get the roku stick for £30 now but i recommend holding on a bit and grab the Amazon fire tv stick if it's anything like the Amazon fire tv it'll be a cracking piece of kit.

Superblade7 16-11-2014 06:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 35741288)
I got a NowTV box with 4 months free entertainment pass, just to see what the service was like.
It's in my bedroom on top of one of my 3 Tivos. NowTV offers what I want, Fox, Atlantic, Spotify and it's very fast. Only thing is Netflix is missing.
I am now thinking about dropping at the very least my 3rd Tivo for a streaming box.
Virgin need to speed the Tivo up a lot.
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35741302)
Regarding netflix you can get the roku stick for £30 now but i recommend holding on a bit and grab the Amazon fire tv stick if it's anything like the Amazon fire tv it'll be a cracking piece of kit.
As theone says, the Roku stick has Now TV, Netflix, the terrestrial catch up apps along with a host of other apps you can add through the store. The device itself is a little sluggish to boot up and start shows but once it's going the streaming quality is excellent. I also like that it's discreetly hidden away behind the TV as it just sticks into one of the HDMI ports. It does need a power source though which can be either a normal plug or a USB port if you've got one on your TV. The interface will also be familiar to you as the Now TV box is a stripped down Roku box.

Can't comment on the Amazon Fire TV but would imagine that to have all the same apps - theone can you confirm?

So I guess whilst ever Sky Atlantic & ITV Encore are hopefully 'coming soon' to VM TV then there are plenty of alternatives out there.

Stephen 16-11-2014 11:45
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As a reminder we do have a thread for discussing streaming services

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...s-page-66.html

theone2k10 16-11-2014 11:49
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35741318)
As theone says, the Roku stick has Now TV, Netflix, the terrestrial catch up apps along with a host of other apps you can add through the store. The device itself is a little sluggish to boot up and start shows but once it's going the streaming quality is excellent. I also like that it's discreetly hidden away behind the TV as it just sticks into one of the HDMI ports. It does need a power source though which can be either a normal plug or a USB port if you've got one on your TV. The interface will also be familiar to you as the Now TV box is a stripped down Roku box.

Can't comment on the Amazon Fire TV but would imagine that to have all the same apps - theone can you confirm?

So I guess whilst ever Sky Atlantic & ITV Encore are hopefully 'coming soon' to VM TV then there are plenty of alternatives out there.
I've posted your answer in netflix streaming thread mate to not take this thread off topic.
Regarding itv encore i think vm customers can expect it during the 3rd quarter of 2015.

denphone 16-11-2014 12:54
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How the price of subscription TV has risen.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...pounds-a-month


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