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zing_deleted 21-10-2009 00:15

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
why would you be worried anyway? cloned modems have always been a bigger strain on the network than cable boxes anyway

I have seen the original post btw

funcard_4 21-10-2009 00:23

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34894397)
why would you be worried anyway? cloned modems have always been a bigger strain on the network than cable boxes anyway

I have seen the original post btw


Good point zing. I pay my tv license and internet bills so I'm not to bothered if it's hacked or not.

BTW 'Thedon' the concept is exactly the same i'm just feeding you information. Matter of interest is VM owned by your old man? why are ppl so worried if it's hacked. it's not that vm cares about you they just want our money. I pay £35 pm for **** i wished i never took out. You have a problem with your bb you phone vm and your put through to some numpty over the ocean.

TheDon i'll give you 4/10 for research.

Hiroki 21-10-2009 00:30

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34894382)
As i said the info on how exactly it's done is not made public yet for obvious reasons.

I cannot copy and paste the whole dump from a vm card as that would be againts forum rules and stupid all I am saying is that it has been hacked. Yes bits I have got from another site but concept is exactly the same. 5/10 for research Hiroki.

You should be thanking google ;)

So would virgin have thought ahead about the whole hacking situation? Will they have an alternative plan and will iptv stop the whole free tv thing?

TheDon 21-10-2009 00:34

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34894403)
BTW 'Thedon' the concept is exactly the same i'm just feeding you information. Matter of interest is VM owned by your old man? why are ppl so worried if it's hacked. it's not that vm cares about you they just want our money. I pay £35 pm for **** i wished i never took out.

TheDon i'll give you 4/10 for research.

Of course the concept is exactly the same as the concept is the same for hacking ANY smartcard, so you get zero points.

My point is that what you've wrote gives no more reason to think it's hacked than the last time forums were spammed with "n3 is close to being hacked!!!!!", and infact gives less reason, because you're just repeating the same things that were said back then.

Feel free to surprise me with something new though, I'm all ears if you can actually do anything but blow hot air around with zero substance.

funcard_4 21-10-2009 00:34

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroki (Post 34894406)
You should be thanking google ;)

So would virgin have thought ahead about the whole hacking situation? Will they have an alternative plan and will iptv stop the whole free tv thing?

IPTV will stop it, but if it did why are they spending money on n3 and dishing out new cards thats what i don't get.

BenMcr 21-10-2009 00:35

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Where has anyone said it is exactly the same encryption as in Europe or anywhere else? It may come from the same company but that doesn't mean it's 100% identical.

I'm not aware of any other cable company running 'N3' and the Cisco IPTV platform together (if someone knows different please provide a link). So who knows what the interaction between the two will be.

Mr Angry 21-10-2009 01:15

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
I've been up all night working on this and I think I've figured a workaround / crack for this N3 malarkay.

Here's a sample of the code I've come up with:

Payment of Direct Debit was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
ROM Revision: 180
EEPROM Revision: Mer000
Acquisition of TV services was successful


I'm pretty sure it'll work - anyone fancy beta testing it?

BenMcr 21-10-2009 01:24

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34894417)
I'm pretty sure it'll work - anyone fancy beta testing it?

Sure as soon as I can persuade VM to come cable my street ;)

Sirius 21-10-2009 06:31

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34894417)
I've been up all night working on this and I think I've figured a workaround / crack for this N3 malarkay.

Here's a sample of the code I've come up with:

Payment of Direct Debit was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
ROM Revision: 180
EEPROM Revision: Mer000
Acquisition of TV services was successful


I'm pretty sure it'll work - anyone fancy beta testing it?

Will that work on a card that has not been issued anywhere in the UK yet ?

If it does do you do multiples of 10 in a discrete box via dodgy Dave in the pub.

Maggy 21-10-2009 07:39

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34894403)
Good point zing. I pay my tv license and internet bills so I'm not to bothered if it's hacked or not.

BTW 'Thedon' the concept is exactly the same i'm just feeding you information. Matter of interest is VM owned by your old man? why are ppl so worried if it's hacked. it's not that vm cares about you they just want our money. I pay £35 pm for **** i wished i never took out. You have a problem with your bb you phone vm and your put through to some numpty over the ocean.

TheDon i'll give you 4/10 for research.

Well you maybe getting a crap service but I'm not so yes I needn't worry...yet.What happens if that service deteriorates to the point that it is effected?

Also why should I pay full price for that service then..My distaste is for the cheaters and thieves among us who always say that it's theft against the corporation or big business and not the customer.Well thats specious because who pays extra every time the bills go up to cover all the extra security that has to be paid for whether it our DTV or using a retailer in the high street?They may just rely on insurance against loss but they pass that onto us the customer.

TheDon 21-10-2009 11:19

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34894426)
Will that work on a card that has not been issued anywhere in the UK yet ?

One problem with that:

Quote:

I recently had my Virgin TV service installed, will I get a new Smart Card?

No. Our expert engineers will have fitted your new Smart Card.
According to the FAQ they have already been sending the cards out.

devilincarnate 21-10-2009 12:13

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
I have just been looking at website and wondered if this is what they could all be on about as if you look at one of their partners it is CISCO . It also shows epg andit says that it is fully customable by the company , so could this be what the new cards are for ?

http://www.quative.tv/index.html

BarFly 21-10-2009 13:37

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34894417)
I've been up all night working on this and I think I've figured a workaround / crack for this N3 malarkay.

Here's a sample of the code I've come up with:

Payment of Direct Debit was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
ROM Revision: 180
EEPROM Revision: Mer000
Acquisition of TV services was successful

I'm pretty sure it'll work - anyone fancy beta testing it?

& here's the original attempt... :rolleyes:

Opening of COM2 was successful
ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 A0 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
31 38 30 20 4D 65 72 30 30 30 28
ROM Revision: 180
EEPROM Revision: Mer000
Error, unsupported card type
Closing of COM2 was successful

Raistlin 21-10-2009 14:07

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
What are these code samples supposed to achieve exactly?

Gary L 21-10-2009 14:18

Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob M (Post 34894620)
What are these code samples supposed to achieve exactly?

It's a joke Rob. you can mark it as actioned :)


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