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If he didn't have any recordings, Bannon could have denied the quotes. I'm sure Wolff is wise enough to keep them somewhere safe and offline, given the success of Wikileaks etc.

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Then what's Bannon apologising for?

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BREAKING: Wikileaks posts link to Fire and Fury, book in pdf format on google drive, link on their twitter page.

(Correction: It may not be them, they are just linking to it on twitter.)

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Interesting observation from the Brisbane Times. Personally, I can't see Wikileaks' move having much of an impact on sales. And I can't see Google hosting it for very long but maybe Wikileaks hopes other sites will pirate it once it's been released.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...08-h0eved.html

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Given the sales figures I doubt the publisher is too concerned. Pirates gonna pirate .

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BREAKING: Trump Tower in New York is on Fire. Firefighters seen on roof and smoke is rising.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

Just a week after Clinton's home was on fire? :erm:

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To quote a previous post. :)

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It's probably someone angry that Trump postponed the first annual fake news awards to next Monday.

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Perhaps some "tapes" caught fire?

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

You're way off.

Statement from the President's son, Eric Trump:

There are reports that there are two injuries, one with life threatening injuries.

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I was making a joke, Mick....

btw, apparently the J in Donald Trump's name is short for Jenius...

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There are reports that Trump has this certificate in the Oval Office:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/1.jpg

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America's gone mad. Lots of talk and betting slashed on Oprah Winfrey running for the Democratic nomination.

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Insane.

You get one Reality TV President, and the floodgates open.

What next - an actor being President?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...9&d=1515440052

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Well America does have a history of it.

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It's all gone downhill in that country since 1783....

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

You mean the Treaty of Paris?.

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It seems that Wolfe did have access to the White House and Senior staff for his book.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...want-the-truth Reince Preibus - President’s Chief of Staff at the time
Steve Bannon - President’s Chief Strategist at the time

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Don't worry Ivanka will beat Oprah to it :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/2.jpg

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Trump said more than once in public that if he ever ran for president she would be his first choice running mate, there's endorsement right there :spin:

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That film is where we're heading, fast

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What's Dick Dastardly doing these days, surely a contender?
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...20160131105762

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I did not realise you were that old to remember how it was before... but you have your year wrong/mixed up, you mean the year 1776. The year the Declaration of Independence was signed and when the Colonists declared the United States Of America as a sovereign nation, no longer under British rule.

1783 was the year the Treaty of Paris was signed, which finally ushered peace between the U.S and Great Britain. We have the French to thank for this as they were warn out with constant wars, only Spain wanted the war to carry on, they had their hearts set on Gibraltar even as early as then.

That's your history lesson done for today. ;)

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1783 it is. The year those peace-loving French tricked us into giving up the colonies. :mad:

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We could always re-invade via Canada. I'm sure the Mounties would be up for it too. The US(GB) could then be part of our new glorious Brexit Empire...
If the Mexicans came from the South we could get them in a pincer movement... Sorted.

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I'm not American but given the choice of Clinton, Trump (c32% popularity rating) or Oprah then I would rate Oprah's chances of success.

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I read that Trump has demanded to be invited to Harry and Meghans wedding. Even though Harry and Meghan doesn't like him.

Trump is demanding a gold coach

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Where are you getting those ratings from? Not that I believe them, but I saw Trump at 46% Approval rating just last week. I see them at 42% as of right now.

Just like to add that Obama was at 46% around December in his first year.

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He has not demanded anything, he hasn't even publicly commented on their wedding.

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Trump is at 39.8% average: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

The lowest Obama got was 40.1 in this second term: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-1044.html

He was around 60% approval at the start of 2009.

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48% at the end of his 2nd year, 51% at the end of his 1st year.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/116479/b...-approval.aspx

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Read it here http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tr...rticle/2643376
Having looked at the various polls, I think that a better indication would be this indicator giving Trump a 39% approval rating.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

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100% of me would like Taylor to be the next President.
Her approval ratings are 100% and her skirts are shorter than average.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/3.jpg

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Short memory?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2018/01/4.jpg

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Think that is what Hugh was getting at ;)

Worth remembering though that Reagan had been in politics a good while before the run for President including two terms of Governor of California. A Governorship of a major state is probably the closest training for being President.

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Oops. :blush:

And to be fair he did a quite decent job of president.

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He certainly did "Win one for the Gipper".:)

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DAVID Cameron thought Barack Obama was one of the “most narcissistic, self-absorbed people” he ever met, according to a former Downing Street strategist

this goes on to talk about Trump

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/90...prime-minister

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Just to be clear this is Steve Hilton who is a bit of a troll and himself a narcissistic attention seeker. Not saying Cameron didn't say this but that Hilton has a vested interest in claiming he did.

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Fire and Fury publisher's lawyer's reply to Trump's lawyers' Cease and Desist letter - page 3 is interesting....

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I'm sure Mr Cameron will deny it himself if untrue .

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It’s also note worthy to point out that Reagan was also deeply unpopular in his first year, the economic recovery helped bolster him to win his second term in a landslide, the entire map went red, I think one tiny State went Democratic blue.

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It's hard to see what Trump could do to turn around his numbers. I can only see it being a war or something big that makes him come across as Presidential.

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The only other thing which boosted Reagan was his Assassination attempt that nearly killed him in 1981 and that wasn’t due to hatred by the nutjob, it was a sick fantasy and obsession with actress Jodie Foster.

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Interesting viewpoint from Trump, speaking to Tennessee farmers yesterday.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/747470...y-allowed-vote

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Yes, there's hope for Arnie yet!

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Don't they have to alter the eligibility criteria? Given that Arnie is Austrian.

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Indeed as you say he came from Austria and firstly made his name by his bodybuilding exploits and then he moved on to a film career before he then turned to politics.

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Yes they would so Arnie's no chance.

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Plus they beat us at the cricket!





That’s a funny joke btw

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In the article you posted, Mr Cameron's spokesman has denied it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/90...prime-minister

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I always thought he'd be the US's version of Blair but maybe he's not quite that bad.

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It's probably Hilton trying to make an impact. Most of the criticisms people had of Obama would be that he was aloof in meetings, sitting back whilst others talked, and reluctant to make decisions. I am not sure how much of that is true either but people have said that more than he shut people down.

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Bannon is stepping down from the fake news company he chaired.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8150581.html

Seems like he's the biggest loser from the publication of best-selling book "Fire and Fury".

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

Weird thing about Bannon is that he seems to have been the most press friendly guy in the campaign despite claiming to hate the liberal media. He was clearly leaking a lot of stuff.

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312 Pages...

I read court documents the other night, how Fusion GPS have tried four different avenues to block Congressional subpoenas in to their bank transactions by filing a lawsuit and that was about 26 pages long. Judge dismissed their case, said did not have the authority to block the scope of the investigatory powers that Congress has granted to them under the Constitution.

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I listened to a good chunk of that speech and heard no condescending attitude from Trump at all. I heard a lot cheering though.

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According to Wolff, many in the White House were leaking a lot of stuff to the mainstream media. The trick of attacking the mainstream media was ironically what got Wolff his access in the White House too.

Apparently, Trump has told people they're either with him or Bannon but not both. Hence most - like the Breitbart funders - have ditched Bannon.

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You don’t think is being condescending?

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Isolated on it's own, yes.


But it wasn't; It was in the context of the whole speech, which was celebratory in nature. It could have been tongue-in-cheek; it could have been Trumps high opinion of himself. Who cares? Trump is getting the job done and the Liberal's don't like it, His supporters love it!


Here's a novel idea; why not watch the whole speech and make your own mind up?

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Not as much as this was...



I thought it was a reasonable question... did not deserve the response it got from her at all.

The student actually was asking what President Obama thoughts were, but the translation went a bit hey wire, but when she asked if they wanted her to channel her husband, you can hear some in the audience say "no no", but she was too busy barking rather than listening, but even if they were asking what her husbands thoughts were, it didn't justify her reaction.

Thank heavens that sorry excuse did not make President.

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Thought this thread was about Trump, however nice deflection once again Mick.

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[QUOTE=passingbat;35931780]Isolated on it's own, yes.


But it wasn't; It was in the context of the whole speech, which was celebratory in nature. It could have been tongue-in-cheek; it could have been Trumps high opinion of himself. Who cares? Trump is getting the job done and the Liberal's don't like it, His supporters love it!


[B][FONT=Arial]Here's a novel idea; why not watch the whole speech and make your own mind up?[/so true business has never been better pity can't say that about UK business. Perhaps it's time to pull out of UK . All that seems to happen is moaning . Any way why are you so concerned about him what ever you think he does not take UK into account

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Doesn't seem to inform us much. Still wondering for what Steele was referred to the Justice Department for since it was assumed to be something coming from that testimony (which is probably why the Dems released it) but there isn't anything there that tells us.

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I actually watched the whole speech, as these things are often taken out of context - I didn’t think this was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NqQvwD3Aho

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Wind your neck in FFS. What is posted in this thread is none of your concern.

This thread is about Trump, but it’s also about who we avoided as being next President. If you don’t like what I post. Tough.

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Fair enough, no problem having different perspectives on this.

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I watched it too. I had sympathy for Trump with the recent criticism of his singing the national anthem (he's hard of hearing and he's not paid for his singing skills) but this just seemed like a huge lack of self-awareness of what he was saying if he put himself in the audience's shoes.
It didn't seem at all like he was joking when he said that he gave them that privilege but maybe I don't get his irony.

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The Democrats were totally out of order releasing a full closed session testimony in the middle of an active investigation.

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If it was a recent video and Clinton was a future presidential candidate I think you might have a point.
As things stand, it does give the impression to me of attempting to draw attention away from negative aspects of Trump and his presidency. Of course, that's just my perspective and others will form their own opinions.

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Trump was 'out of order' when he boasted of being able to grab women by the ****** and do whatever he wanted with them.

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Could have been worse - the Chairman of the Investigate Committee could have taken classified information about the person being investigated to brief the person being investigated...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ee-white-house

Or Republican Committee members leaking parts of the closed session testimony to the press...

http://www.newsweek.com/repulicans-l...r-nunes-692624

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Nice try but he was cleared of any wrong doing and you should know by now, I don’t believe crap written in the guardian.

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Yet funnily after all that he was still elected President.

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Maybe I've watched more Trump speeches and more used to his style?;) In reality, it's irrelevant; the audience didn't seem to care.


Trump is full of himself, no question about it. But he's not afraid to stand up to threatening countries, getting the economy sorted, lowering unemployment, reducing illegal immegrants and standing up for Israel when the whole world is showing a tendency towards anti-Semitism. Then despite his arrogance, as the American expression goes... Go Trump!

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Nice try, but he stepped aside from the Chair of the investigation because of what he did (from the LA Times).

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...406-story.html

And if he was cleared because the information he received was unclassified, so was the transcript released by Feinstein - so they are either both in the wrong, or they are both in the right (unless it’s the fact that Feinstein is a Democrat).

On an unrelated note, a judge used Trump’s tweet (in support of DACA) as one of the reasons why the DACA phase out should blocked.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_most&wpmm=1

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DACA. did not raise anything to do with DACA.

And as already stated, Chairman Nunes was cleared of wrong doing so no it is not the same at all.

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Trump is further hinting of a deal for the Dreamers in return for funding for the wall. Depending what exactly the deal is then the Democrats might well go for it. I think it would have to be a path to citizenship and no deportations for them to give Trump the wall but that would be worth it.

Only thing is it would annoy a lot of Trump's base. A lot of angry frog avatars on Twitter at the moment. So even more reason to do it.

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Trump's support of the anti-Semitic Charlottesville white supremacists did not go down well with many in and outside the Jewish community. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...sville/536928/

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You don't declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel and promise support for Israel if you're anti-Semitic. It's the world that is gradually adopting anti-Semitic views.

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Trump also commuted the sentence of Ultra-orthodox Jew, Sholom Rubashkin, who was sentenced to 27 years for money laundering in 2009, very harsh sentence. Jewish community was absolutely elated at his release.

http://hamodia.com/2017/12/20/klal-y...lom-rubashkin/

There was reports of over 1000 of them that seen dancing in the street, outside Sholom’s business premises. They don’t look upset with Trump at all.

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Think your confusing anti sematism with anti Zionism, perfectly understandable though considering the Israeli government conflate the two regularly to try and avoid criticism

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Trump has had a 'Stable Genius' moment and in a closed door meeting, with Republican and Democrat lawmakers and in a heated moment, he asked why should we keep letting immigrants from 'shithole' countries.

Someone leaked the closed door session to the Washington Post. (Probably a Democrat)

As usual, it's caused another twitter storm episode and it's not gone down very well with his mass of critics....

But he is not the first President to describe another country, using the word 'Shit'...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6923976.html

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They are not the same thing at all.

A former president was having a go at Cameron after letting Libya get in a mess following intervention.

Trump was asking why immigrant from shithole countries are being allowed to the USA. That is totally out of order.

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Either way the stable genius isn't visiting London: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...79619341737986

Nothing to do with his worry about how unpopular he'll be.....

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In response, someone tweeted,

US embassy move was confirmed in October 2008 when George W Bush was still President, not Obama! FACT not "fake news"!

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Cripes, he really is unhinged. Make America 'White Again' should have been his slogan. Not sure how the US nuclear deterrent works but please say his 'button' isn't actually connected to anything... One tweet he doesn't like and.....

As for not visiting us, presumably he's worried how much the British public will show just how much they love him !

If we're looking to the US post Brexit we need to think again. Not so much back of the queue, but not even in the queue.

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https://news.sky.com/story/donald-tr...ondon-11204052

As for the current building it's a listed building which reduced it's price. Plus the US doesn't own the land underneath it, the freehold is owned by someone else.

Also this was been in the pipeline for years so it's not as if he didn't know this before he was due to come. :rolleyes:

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The Embassy is just a feeble excuse.

The real reason is probably even more feeble like Obama getting an invite to a certain wedding, and he hasn't.....

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

Mick is just following the Trump playbook. If you have no answer to something, just blame the democrats.

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You appear to be conflating Anti-Israel Government actions with Anti-Semitic - two different things.

I can disagree with a Government’s actions (USA, GB) without being against the people of those countries.

This conflation is often used by those who are trying to muddy waters and wrongly accuse people of anti-Semitism, to drown out those who believe some of the actions of the Israel Government are wrong (an extra 1000 settlements, treatment of Palestinian children, etc.).

Anyhoo, different topic from this thread...

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I've seen a good suggestion. If Obama is in the UK for the wedding anyway why doesn't he open the embassy? Maybe a joint-appearance with President Bush?

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As usual people wind their necks up and defend precious Obama, the crap president, who didn’t act when his red line was crossed over Syria and allowed Crimea to be Anexxed by Russia. Not to mention his Administration now being said to have illegally spied on people.

He his allowed to say Libya is a ‘shit show’ to another world leader. There is conveniently no problem here. Hypocrites is all I can say here. :rolleyes:

The wedding guests list has not even been sorted. All that was said is that Harry wants a low key wedding, no State wedding.

The Obamas should NOT be welcome, inviting a former President over the current one is a major diplomatic snub. We have rolled out the red carpet for far worse leaders with poor Human Rights records.

At the end of the day, liberal people and the left need to stop being overly sensitive and petty and precious. Those countries ARE shitholes because the governments that probably run them are corrupt to high hell and we suddenly care their feelings have been hurt, Give me a break! :rolleyes:

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For which he applied crippling sanctions that Trump wanted to remove. Given you were complaining Clinton's hardline on Russia would lead to WW3 I say again I don't think that is legitimate issue you have.

Obama would be there as a private citizen if he is invited because of Harry's, Michelle Obama's and President Obama's work on the Invictus games for injured veterans.

Trump was invited to London. He's rejected it.

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I'm not conflating anything. Trough Abraham, God promised the Jewish people the land of israel. The Jewish Temple was destroyed in 70AD and the Jewsish people were then dispersed across the world.


Biblical prophecy said that at some stage, the Jewish people would return to the land of Israel, That happened in 1948, confirming Biblical prophecy. They have been under attack ever since. They are the Jewish people I am talking about. Anti-Jewish sentiment wil continue to grow because that is what Armageddon is all about; prety much all the World attacking Israel. The world looses BTW.

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Why shouldn't Harry invite Obama, apparently they are friends.

The Prince and former US president are firm friends, appearing in public together several times over the years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...nvictus-games/

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It's hard for anti-semitism to 'continue to grow' from where it was for the first half of last century. Anti-semitism is still rife but I would guess it's declined from the 1900-1930s where it was publicly acceptable to be anti-Jewish in Western, Christian, nations.

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Totally different things, agreed. That's no justification fro Trump's remarks.

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I think you will find, in fact I know so, you are the one who has no answer :mad:

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So he should. Being met by pettiness beyond belief here. :rolleyes:

Btw, Obama is a private citizen who is still a former President, it is a diplomatic snub no matter how much you try sugar coat it. :rolleyes:

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Yet you bought up an irrelevancy. Obama is no longer in power. Whether what he did is right or wrong (and I do believe it's wrong), it is irrelevant. Just because someone else did it does not make it right. This is the Trump playbook. When criticised, bring up something the Democrats did.