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Another point is is the logo is rather intrusive in my opinion. Whether it would make a difference where it was is another matter.
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Half the time in a football broadcast, especially when not in close up, the top of the screen has some of the crowd/stand in it so having the logo at the top doesn't affect the viewing experience. Unless the cameramen make sure the near byline is in the picture instead when the action moves to the near side half of the pitch. I'll judge it properly when i actually see a broadcast but those are my initial thoughts. |
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Dogs at the bottom of the screen get in the way during football, they will get so many complaints they will move it.
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I've just attempted to order BT sports so I can watch it online, there doesn't seem to be a way of doing this without ordering or already having BT broadband :mad:
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I would like to point out, earlier in my stay here I was accused of being wrong by the guy with the crystal palace icon. It was in the other thread, but I am not replying as it is not a BT Sport solo thread.
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As you can see, I was 100% correct on both counts. Match rescheduled due to 36 hours time span between thursday night and saturday lunchtime, and BT Sport still showing it due to them obtaining the rights to that game, not just a timeslot to show the game. In fairness, a couple of others backed me up. And we all said that this is due to fixtures all having a set time to begin with, before european matches and variants cause a rescheduling of the kickoff times. But still, quite a few people took smug glee in informing me that I am wrong. This, as proven by the official man united site is incorrect. I was right. As I have said many times, I am an expert in all aspects of football broadcasting within the UK and also foreign rights to Premier League, and can confidently say I know more about it than anybody here due to being a football nut who devotes my life to watching football on tv. Please understand that I am never wrong, ever, about football broadcasting in the UK. The smarter people will know it's good to have me here to act as a resident expert in it, but sadly due to being very anti sport, and a snobbish behavior towards football fans I am wasted here and will not be passing on as much as I could. i'll be withholding info when it suits me. |
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So here is my idea, this Saturday first 5 championship fixtures: 1) Blackburn vs Nottingham forest 2) Blackpool vs Barnsley 3) Bolton vs reading 4) Brighton vs Derby 5) Carlton vs Middlesbrough No ifs, no buts please provide these correct results for this saturday. Your making the brass claims of being 100% right all the time so here your opportunity to show us for all and not only you make us a few £££ you will have my total utter respect on all football matters and will give you complete kudos. If not I am sorry but i simply cannot take any of your items you post seriously anymore |
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Please do not quote me unless you quote the entirety of my post, and thusly acknowledge that i was correct last week with my stance on United vs Spurs being rescheduled due to Europa league, and Palace Fan was wrong. Then we will move onto the paragraph which has been quoted twice.
I will also state that in turn I was correct when I said Champions League does not affect saturday 12.45s, only Europa fixtures. So the people who made the ludicrous and factually incorrect statement that less big teams will be playing on BT Sport due to Champions League were wrong, as no big team bar spurs are affected as Man.PU, Man Sitty, Arse nal, and Chel sea are all in the champions league, and Liverpool (the joint biggest draw and one the teams on an incredible 9 times in the first 13 due to their high ratings), are thankfully not involved in the Europa League :) In general it always follows the same formula with very, very minor rare occurrences but never for thursday night/saturday dinner timeframes. 2 odd occurrences were Chelsea playing in the champions league semi 2 days after a cup tie with spurs, because of a fixture date that Liverpool could not play for personal reasons. Another was Man United game vs Middlesbrough in 2008-09, which was altered and played 1 day later than everyone else due to Liverpool being top of the league at the time, and to give Man United the best chance to win the game after being tired recently returning home from Japan WCC, they were given an extra day to ensure that they won. And used the day's recovery time to beat Boro 1-0, in a match they would definitely have struggled massively in otherwise. So as you can see, my knowledge in this sort of thing is 1st rate. I could type for hours, I know everything. Also I must note that my talents do not stretch to predicting the results of 5 random championship games, as somebody might very bizarrely and bemusingly suggest. Just broadcasting facts and stats of football in the UK, and overseas rights. |
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Why dont you grow up a bit and start acting your (supposed) age, and stop antagonising other forum members in the process. |
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Oh great someone opened the straps on is white coat again !!!!
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Can't help thinking of Violet Elizabeth Bott (played by Bonnie Langford in particular) when I read some posts.
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Young timbo you are quite frankly a sad and lonely little thing aren't you that you feel the need to come on here and spout your drivel which most people seem to find boring.
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I thought this thread was about virgin tv not children bickering so calm down and stop insulting each over we are all waiting for info on if we are getting BT sports or not so be patient
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Indeed the main thing is to discuss the topic in hand and not to throw insults at each other.
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I'm a new user here and I have no intention to disrupt any thread, or throw insults about just for the sake of arguing. If me quoting and replying to someone who clearly has some sort of agenda looks like I'm going astray, then I can only apologise.
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What it does show is i was correct when i said it rarely ever deviates from the norm. so that's one less example I can think of. I'm spot on re: United Boro tho. being moved back 1 extra day, when everyone else played friday and sunday on the busy christmas period. this is pretty much the only time you get 2 day gaps, but not United. they get 1 days extra rest to make sure they don't have to do what everyone else does. which i see you clipped out of your quote. as seems to be the tactic on this forum. clip out all the stuff that has you beaten, and focus your pedantry on one typo, or slightly debatable line in a post, and declare your victory :D https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/19.gif |
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Dear oh dear timbo. I quoted you being wrong, even though you never are, apparently. Every post you make seems to contain errors. You know it, i know it, we all know i. Your deliberate postings to antagonise this forums users are clear for all to see, and your constant declarations of "victory" are, in all honesty, really quite sad and pathetic. I apologise again to anyone who thinks this is going off topic.
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you don't have to take every line i say literally though. i still wasn't wrong, because i said it rarely ever deviates from the set formula. i had to struggle to come up with 2 as an example for the benefit of the forum, but my crux is still correct because i said it rarely if ever deviates from the set forumula. and that Spurs would not kick off at 12.45 on the saturday if they play in the Europa on thursday. i was involved in my own FA Cup semi final that weekend which i won 1 day before, and was then drunk for 3 days. so i can't really be blamed, it was a special situation. being 1 day out on 1 match, actually BENEFITS the point i was making, instead of detracting from it. you know it. i know it. the lurkers know it :)
i see again OLD BOY that you cut your quote to bits :D i think i will treat that as an inside joke on the forum now. and that if a post of mine gets quoted but the quote is edited or cut, or lines made bold, that i have automatically won. that's the new rule now. |
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Any news on when or IF ESPN will return or BT Sport added? In July it was suggested that ESPN may stay on and BT Sport be availablebut as yet just captions.
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I have just this minute spoken to the Customer Services (06/8/2013 at 3.35pm) via an email to the CEO's office regarding BT Sport / ESPN on the EPG.
They are still in talks with BT Sports and have not got any idea about a deal yet, as for the ESPN still on the EPG, they cannot take it off yet. I have asked them why they don't advise customers of the problem - they have said juswt watch the updates, l have said that it never updated, they have said they cannot update it as they don't know what is happening. |
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At least we have confirmation (?) that talks haven't collapsed completely...
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I know it's far from ideal but the picture quality from the app upscales brilliantly on to the telly, thanks to virgins super fast broadband.
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if BT Sports app is anything like Sky Go then it'll run 1 minute behind live. which is useless for Live Sport. Sky Go Sky Sports was also in SD. had to rely on it for 2 years when i was working down in an office in London recently. All my money was taken up on my Shoreditch rent, and parties, expensive clothes, and paying bills. So Sky was cut out of my budget. And I relied on my family sky account at the time. Never again. total bollox. Has to be sport in HD and live on a fat telly for me to be worth it. Otherwise i'd rather just listen on the radio and use my imagination.
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You poor, poor love. Come on people, let's have a whip round. This poor sod had to choose between sky tv and expensive clothes and parties. Come on, join hands "feed the world, make it a better place..." |
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Arthur, when did you email the CEO email address? I'm trying to work out when they might get around to mine!
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ollowing the acquisition of Virgin Media by Liberty Global and nearly eight amazing years, I have left the business. Tom Mockridge is my successor.
Rest assured that my e-mails are being monitored and will be dealt with and forwarded on as appropriate. Regards Neil Berkett Hi Neilo, the above is an email from Virgin that l received on 1st August, l then sent an email straight of to Tom Mockridge I received an email back today, but apparently the CEO's assistant was very busy, so l spoke with a customer care agent. She told me what l put on here. I told her that VM never tell customers anything, and that l was not happy at the fact that we are paying for the Sports package - with ESPN although its FREE, its included in the package we pay for. I asked her that they must have some idea, and she said that they have not got any news. |
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Ok thanks Arthur. I've been told there is an agreement, there isn't an agreement etc. The last lady I spoke to said BT need 2m customers which they'll only get with XL customers so it'll happen. The thing is I thought I read that on here a week or so ago when someone wrote it, so maybe customer services get their info from this forum!
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i am horrified to walk back in and see that people are STILL going on about my post. responding negatively to derail the thread. a post where i said nothing wrong at all, and was talking merely about the 1 minute delay on live broadcasts on Sky Go, and that BT Sport is likely the same. Does anybody have experience of the BT Sport app. How is the lag? Once I get it should I go via freesat if Virgin don't get it in XL, I would be interested to stream the odd match via my IPad 4, or my PS4 in a different non equipped room should the PS4 browser support it. |
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I'm no 'sportsaholic' but I must say that the message currently being displayed on the former ESPN channels - "There are still plenty of ways to get your sports fix with Virgin Media" - is crass.
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Wiki has the following Eurosport provides viewers with European and international sporting events. This includes: UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League football, the Paris Dakar Rally, Monte Carlo Rally, the Olympics, athletics events such as World Athletics Championships and the European Athletics Championships, cycling events such as the Tour de France, tennis events including the French Open and the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour, World Championship Snooker, ICC World Twenty20, ICC Cricket World Cup, ICC Champions Trophy, Australian Football League, Arm Wars, wintersports, and youth sports like skating and surfing. It has also previously covered events such as the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup. |
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Of which almost none of those are broadcast in the UK because they don't own the rights.
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Each to heir own but i do believe its a very underrated channel and Eurosport provides some excellent coverage of carribean T20 cricket and winter sports which over some weekends is must watch in the mornings but I guess I am little bias as I spent much time in Austria. I was delighted when we got Eurosport 2 in HD and some good niche sports which won't get time of day on sky
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Cable.co.uk have put together a guide on how to leave Virgin to get access to BT Sports
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Do anyone think as part of BT vs sky war we could see each other channel posting a ridiculous security code in a obtrusive way in similar to what VM had to suffer last year whilst watching football matches?
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What does that have to do with BT vs Sky?! Its a security measure to help identify pirated streams. Its perfectly reasonable.
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Anyway back on topic, I have to say I am not missing either Sky Sports or ESPN so far. By the end of the week I'll have been to 2 home European games and a home league game and I've listened some great radio commentary of my team's 2nd away victory in Europe. Broadcasts in Norway and Belarus have also provided me with some highlights. I am a little surprised that VM haven't managed to get a deal but that seems to be the nature of the industry, with the paying public loosing out one way or another. |
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I should be able to confirm in the next couple of days whether that email which went around saying you can sign up to just SS1 and SS2 is real or not. As I don't believe you can just get those channels. hopefully true though. gonna upgrade my household virgin setup to Premier collection + SS1 and SS2 in HD, and an extra Tivo instead of the standard box. going to demand a free installation too, otherwise they can bugger off. hoping it comes in around £100 pm. willing to hangup and ring back if i get a tough advisor. Then if no BT Sport on the morning of the 17th, i will just sign up via freesat, or just go to the pub and give it an extra month or so. would rather not waste £30-£45 if it is going to virgin in XL, even if it means missing a few (non Liverpool) games. to be honest i would much rather have the VIP, but no BT Sport is a deal breaker. gonna need that £15 a month to pay for it on freesat.
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@yung timo
Haven't quoted you in respect of those many many members who have you on ignore, coupled with the fact that you seem to have an issue with people only part quoting you and not including all your usual rantings. One question, I thought money was no issue to you or your family when it comes to watching football on TV and as any true sports fan will know (as you tell us often enough) you will pay whatever it costs to watch your sport. Though living in London and parties, girls, and clothes do seem more important than sport (not the behaviour of a true sports fan??). So I don't understand how you can be concerned about wasting £30 to £45 pm or hoping the cost will come in under £100 or why you'll need that £15 for your subscription. It makes me think you are a bit of a bluffer (and not a very good one as you seem to forget how you describe your lifestyle from one post to the next). Cheers Grim |
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You haven't won at all. I don't think you are always right, and I have proved it with just one post. On the contrary, you are often wrong. You just don't see it. ---------- Post added at 12:43 ---------- Previous post was at 12:37 ---------- Well it won't be long now - just 10 days at the outside I believe, and we should know the (dreadful?) truth. I hope that when VM make their announcement that we have BT Sports and ESPN/HD it will also include some additional surprises such as Sky Atlantic, etc. I remain confident that it's all coming, but I can't help shaking a bit about the prospect and whether it will really happen....! But I know it will! I think.... |
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got freesat from sky but since i'm not a pedant, and because it saves a bit of time, i just like to simply write freesat. this isn't The Lord of the Rings it's a cable discussion page. @ the guy questioning my finances, i don't like to waste money and neither do my fam. that's why we've got lots of it, because we don't like to waste it. also i hate paying any kind of bill including sports telly, even though it's an essential and must be paid. so i want to get away paying as little as possible as all my interests outside of telly cost me so much i need the cash for those. which are also essentials. |
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You can't kick of for saying you could get it on freesat when you meant something else, this would be giving many people false information, instead of calling people pedantic just admit you got it wrong, everybody gets something wrong now and again.
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I think the way VM are treating there customers, who want BT Sport, is a disgrace. I l don't give a damn if VM read this forum or not.
When l spoke to VM Complaints the other day - the CEO was in ' a meeting', this is how much they rate the customer - zero. At the end of the day its us that decide if to watch it. Come 17th August, if its not on the system VM can shove there system where the sun don't shine. |
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Arthur, if you are so peeved about VM why don't you leave?
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As far as l am aware BT Channels are testing on VM now, according to DS forums and on the ' coming soon page', but l am aware of the problems involved. My main arguments is that a deal should have been done months ago, not in the last week - or when the directors have ended there round of golf.
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