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Myself, I would have thought anyone making that sort of statement may lack social interaction skills..... ;)

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HD channels are Dolby Digital all the time.

Your issue is you seem to think Dolby Digital is 5.1 and 5.1 only, it's not.
Dolby digital is just AC-3 audio, and can be any number of channels up to 5.1. On some HD shows it will be 5.1, on others just 2.0. Both of these are STILL Dolby Digital. There is no point in time when a HD channel will not be broadcasting Dolby Digital audio.

That your amp isn't telling you it's Dolby Digital doesn't change the fact that it is.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Go to TV Guide press (9) for more then (5) for High definition and it is there. Seems strange though because it is in my TV Guide as normal.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Some people are trying to find it by going to the sports section in the TV guide, but it's not in there due to the way the VM epg works, at the moment a channel can only be in one category, so you'll only find the HD channels in the all channel and HD channel listings, as they can't be in both HD and sport for instance.

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has there been any HD footage on espn yet, the espys and the mlb at midnight arent in HD, havent watched anything else.

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I understood Dolby Digital was bringing your cinema experience to your home, and its at its best when used as a 5:1 system. And my amp does change instantly from Dolby Digital to pro logic or "stereo" on certain HD channels, so whether you are saying its not broadcasting a 5:1 signal on certain programs and thats why it changes, My point still being the sound is nowhere near as good as it should be, I thought HD was a 5:1 experience not 2 or 3.

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The error is "You thought" ie you assumed. So you have several people tell you how it works. Believe it or not there was a time even DD 2.0 was used in the cinemas. DD 2.0 is way better then bog standard stereo that we have had to put up with on broadcast TV. It has far more fidelity.

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No, the point of HD is that it can be 5.1 not that it is. But it must support Dolby AC-3.

For instance there is no point making a HD documentary in 5.1

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

ino poor aint it no espn hd logo either upscaled stuff thts it maybe the pre season games

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

We are probably better of having this discussion in the other thread HD Channels finally here thread, rather then this one.

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It can only be a 5.1 experience on things that are produced with 5.1 sound though, and a huge amount of things aren't made in 5.1, simply because the cost of doing so is pointless as they don't need surround sound.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I noticed that too, makes it strange as to look up the ESPN channels you have to go to two different sections

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But the sound is so much better

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I think we'll call it a day on this, I suppose I was just expecting everything to sound as good as a blu-ray by now on the V+, after 20 years ago of having the amp connected to the vhs in nicam stereo the sound has not improved as much as it should have.

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The sound on Dolby Digital 2.0 is better than on an SD channel.

What you have to look at is what sort of programs actually benefit from surround sound, with most shows the picture that is infront of you is all there is going on, there's nothing going on behind you for you to be getting sound from, so you've only go sound coming from the front. With most TV it's like looking out of the window, you don't expect to look out the window and hear things going on behind you from things that you can see happening out the window do you? You just expect to be getting normal stereo sound.

It's pointless doing 5.1 sound just for the sake of 5.1 sound when it makes no sense in the context of the program.

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Well said

most amps up 2.1 to 5.1 anyway

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I hate to be a killjoy - but could those wanting to discuss the merits and technicalities of Dolby Digital perhaps start another thread. I have just come home from work and had to plough through a couple of pages of discussion about Dolby (which doesent really interest me) in a thread about new channels comming to VM.

Obvioulsy I dont object to occasional questions and short discussions that are off topic but this one is getting a bit excessive.

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Sorry ............ my fault :( could you not work a bit later

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I take your point, I think this diversion has ended now anyways. :-)

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ESPN HD will not show anything in HD until August 15th.

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wht rubish no reason for it

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Why would it be rubbish?.Dont forget they only had a few weeks to get this channel up and running.

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Hey i have just asked virginmedia through twitter this :

devilincarnate0: @virginmedia have you got any plans to try and get the service of epix hd which seems that would suit your company and the customers ?

As this is a movie streaming via the net and also through cable but you need to have both to get the service and i got this reply :

virginmedia: @devilincarnate0 We certainly have plans to expand our HD offering, but due to confidentiality, we are unable to confirm deals until done.AA

I know that i have posted about this before but now epix hd have started to confirm deals and i know that one reply to my post earlier was that it seems to be a USA thing but they may be able to do it and then it would benefit the company and also the customers that have been wanting something like this for ages .

Someone stop me if iam going on a bit ?

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I doubt this very much. As far as I'm aware the UFC 101 and pre-season friendlies/European football will be shown in HD. I assume you're going by Livesportsontv.com, which isn't entirely accurate.

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i thought tht aswell im just dnt get why it should not be in hd ino they done well to rush it out

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Well, according to ESPN's own site, the first 'also available in HD' does seem to be the footy on 15th August.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

ESPN's site isn't accurate either, I'm certain something will be broadcast in HD before the 15th.

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Setanta Sports UK fall out: UEFA Europa League update.

All of Setanta Sports games of Europa League will be on ITV4 or Five with the Final being on Five.

http://www.live-footballontv.com/foo...rights-uk.html

Note: Setanta Sports, ITV and Five sign an deal with UEFA in 2008.

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That just leaves the FA Cup rights previously held by Setanta, which ESPN are rumoured to be after.

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Hey has anybody else noticed this i am not stating what it is you may get it straight away or not ?

http://www.espn.co.uk/sports-on-espn...ague-fixtures/

http://www.espn.co.uk/sports-on-espn...ague-fixtures/

i know that it is a new site but wtf?

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Noticed straight away. Just have a complete computer geek editing that website doesnt have a clue about sports lol

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Well they are American!:dozey:

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Nice find, looks like someone is a bit confused!

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Is the BSP football players going to play in their cars now?:D

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would make that legue more intresting lol

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the MLB game on last night looked like it was in HD and so did NASCAR now. there was loads more detail in the broadcast on ESPN HD especially in the MLB. all you need to do is switch back to ESPN to clearly see the difference.

if that was not HD last night then i a cant wait to see the true HD broadcasts as it looked as good as the stuff shown on BBC HD if not a little better.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

no was in upscaled higher bit rate looked nice thoe also there would be the espn hd logo instead of espn

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Media boy do you know who has the darts the league of legends that was on setanta?.

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I forgot about that one.

Update at 8.10pm: The league of legends of Darts 2009 series do not start until October 2nd so they still have time to sign an deal with Sky.

For the latest info on the LoD go to http://www.legendsofdarts.com/allnews.php

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

:D

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We might be able to rustle a few vans from the Vauxhall plant, Come on you hatters (anybody not in the know Luton Town) :D

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Update:

Virgin Media have confirmed to Biz Asia that they are not planning on including the Asian pack within the XL package.

http://media247.co.uk/bizasia/newsar...n_media_de.php

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

More analogue areas being switch-off by Virgin Media.

From November 2nd:

The following areas of Virgin Media will be going Digital only:

Belfast
Haringey, Camden, Enfield, Hackney & Islington
Stafford, Lichfield & Tamworth
Teesside (Stockton, Darlington & Middlesbrough)
Uddingston
Wolverhampton, Dudley, Sandwell, Telford, Kidderminster, Redditch
Wessex (Poole & Bournemouth).

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

are we getting any new hd channels this week when will we get sky sports hd and sky 1 hd

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we already got them !!!!

last thursday we got

FX HD
MTVN HD
National Georgraphic HD

last friday we got

Channel 4 HD

and yesterday we got

ESPN HD

thats 5 HD channels and we have Living HD coming in september and upto now there is no sign of SKY HD channels.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Does the closing of a analogue area mean more capacity on the network or does the whole network have to close before extra capacity becomes available?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

They will arrive when Sky Sports get the contract to cover the ice skating championship from Hell. ;)

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No and never

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Whole network I would think

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I wouldn't be so sure about NEVER Sky 1 HD!

Sky aren't going to want Living HD to be VM only. There could easily be a swapsy deal. 1 SKY HD channel for Living HD and the Obvious choice would be Sky1 HD.

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i say the obvious choice is sky sports one of them because it give virgin the abilty to say you can get pl football in hd here to

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

We can already get HD prem league on Virgin though. For free!

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Agreed.

Andrew, i don't think SS1 HD is a comparable channel to Living HD, hence why i think it will (if it happens) be Sky1 HD - it's almost like a like for like swap!

Also, i don't think it will be on any "Free package". I think it will be available on XL and maybe a stand alone channel on smaller packages.

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Why do we need Sky1 HD for??

We got Channel 4 HD for the Simpsons:)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

is the otehr hd channesl standalone? i dnt think it would be either, i agree sky1 for living would be a liek for liek exchange but do you honestly think sky will? they think sky 1 is god heaven an living is for few minor daft people

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The Simpsons is one of those shows that will hardly benefit from being in HD. Add to that it not being in HD on C4HD, and that Sky One has some great shows like Lost, 24, Bones etc., all which benefit from HD.

I would be delighted if one day VM manage to get Sky 1 HD, but obviously I'm not holding my breath.

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Oooh, 24 in HD! YEAH!

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Virgin should make it VM only just like sky have done with their channels and the way they have done contracts with other HD channels

Virgin get all the channels not owned by sky
then VM starts LIVING HD, VIRGIN HD, GOOD FOOD HD, BRAVO HD and then VM will have some power to get the sky channels.

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It really doesn't matter what VM do. It will take Ofcom to force Sky to change and that isn't going to happen in a hurry, and probably not at all when Cameron is elected as a new Tory administration wouldn't want to mess with Uncle Rupert.

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If that happened then it will go to the European court and Sky will get a far worse deal than ofcom would give them.

The European court would probably seperate the company into a content and platform division, and make sure that the content was freely available to all platforms for the same price as their own platform would pay. That's something ofcom has no desire to do, so it's in Sky's interests to eventually listen to the ofcom ruling (obviously after delaying it as long as is possible) because the other scenario for them is far far worse.

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in a way even if it means another 3 years before we get sky stuff i would rather that happen, because in the end it will solv ethe problem in the long run anything sky develops will be avaible to all at te same price

but they also have to deal with sky and them paying large sums to keep stuff exculive to there platform too

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

List update now online - see post one.

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I don't THINK we need Sky1 HD Media Boy (although i would rather like to watch the final series of LOST in HD) i just think that's a reasonable scenario... i'd rather have Eurosport HD myself... any news on that BTW?? :p

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All the news I got on Eurosport HD is on post one.

I have no news on $ky1 aka Simpsons HD that time of posting.

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I don't think VM holding out from Sky is a good idea myself. Offering Living HD to Sky gives them a bit of leverage to ask for one of Sky's HD channels.

Also VM doing what they are accusing Sky of doing is not going to help re:Ofcom!

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not if they are willing ot offer it to sky at easonable price, ther enothin wrong if they made it exculsive the point about sky is they amke them avaialble at uncommerical price

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Yes a fair point but it's going to look like childish tit-for-tat.

If i were on VM board i would recoomend they offer Living HD for exchange OR at a reasonable rate - that would make Sky look even more money grabbing and unreasonable! lol...

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i think at the very least they will get a good price for it but will try to get a sky hd channe in return simialr ot sky basic coming back

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If ESPN get any more Sports rights I can see ESPN starting up an ESPN 2 Channel for Fridays till Sundays - and put all the non HD Sports on it.

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Just as well there are two spare slots between ESPN and ESPN America then!

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He's knows something we don't know la la la LOL

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I know nothing.:D

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do yu know why espn website aint showing the shedual? media boy dought they would launch espn 2

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The site now has a schedule available, although it's not yet linked to. It can be viewed here: http://www.espn.co.uk/schedule/ (Info was found by Nook29)

ESPN 2 is just an idea I have as ESPN has now got too much live sports at the weekend for the one Non America sport channel.

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ino maybe abit later down the line espn 2 will lauch thanks for the link

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HD Channels on Virgin Media update:

I have been told to remove the information I has on my list on History HD and Eurosport HD.

When I get more info on any new channels - SD or HD - that are coming to Virgin Media I will let you know via this thread.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

why remove the information?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

My Virgin Media insider told me to.

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And give it a definitive date somewhere else?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

That all I can say on the HD Channels.

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ok fair enough, no point rushing it, i'm sur there is a good reason and it would be foolish to jump the gun

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ESPN 2 would be a great way of broadcasting more live sport and showing repeats of previously shown live games. Setanta had two channels and showed a similar amount of sport, so I don't see why ESPN won't go for a second.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Sounds like bad news to me :(

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

The deal to carry them has NOT been signed - yet.

That is how Virgin stop testing them weeks ago.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

oh... hope they do soon anyways :)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think ESPN 2 will probably happen. After all, they are getting a lot of stuff right now and will probably get more before long and they won't have the room to show everything on a single channel.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

I think getting ESPN 2 is a good idea, but don't forget the channel could come easy for ESPN, but trying to get it onto VM is like trying to build a house without the foundation, its hard.:)

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

isn't there a issue with getting EPG slots on Sky at the moment? Could ESPN Classic become ESPN2 over the weekends instead?

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OR

ESPN can buy an EPG Channel from Setanta on Sky.
And Virgin can reuse Arsenal TV to broadcast ESPN 2.

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Well, I'm watching 4HD, Ugly Betty and for the first time ever, I have been amazed with a HD broadcast. The picture quality is absolutely stunning. People say "The picture looks like its coming out of the screen" and most of the time they are probably lying to justify an expensive TV purchase (Usually LCD) but really, the picture looks fricking real. Superb.

I have a plasma by the way, colour balance, richness, reality of image, second to none.

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OR

They re-brand ESPN Classic into ESPN 2 and show a mixture of live sport and classic games.

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dnt you think that a bit harse arthur? after they trounced sky and got a ebtter deal for all the espn channels. i still havent tracked down that annoucement where it clearly said in the pdf presentation 3-4 hd channels in 1st qaurter sorry :( i will still try find it as i am sure google search on news might find it as i am pretty sure it wa ove rhte news at that point

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Not the pdf presentation you mention, but here is what Neil Berkett said in December last year.....

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2008/12/ber...annels-on.html

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Surely they don't need a fulltime ESPN2 just for the weekend so they can simply just use the Classic on Saturday/Sunday and not go through the expense of buying another slot. Unless buying a slot from Setanta is not big $$$$

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Eurosport 2 HD soon to broadcast (not sure fi virgin willg et it) i hope so

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2009/...ans-hd-launch/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

great news, a HD feed of both of eurosport's channels, i wish they would rename them tho to eurosport 1, eurosport 2, eurosport 1 hd, eurosport 2 hd. British Eurosport and Eurosport 2 makes no sense, that implies that there is a eurosport 1 by giving eurosport 2 it's name.

REALLY hope virgin can add both of the eurosport channels soon, i like to watch tennis and swimming on eurosport, it would be great in HD.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Just read on wiki that sky sports hd is coming to virgin - true or someone mucking around?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

That looks like eastern European Eurosport2 not the one we get here

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

That what was reported that he said. We don't know what he actually said. But even if he did say it, it still doesn't make it an announcement.

The quarterly results come out later today. That is a report you can trust.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 

Virgin Media's TV Results are out:

Virgin added 20,400 new TV customers.

During the quarter, Virgin added 56,600 V+ DVR subscribers to reach an installed base of 668,500. This represents a penetration level of just 19% of their digital subscribers which leaves significant further up-sell opportunities.

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...613&highlight=