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OLD BOY 25-10-2018 13:20

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35967925)
Your current streaming services aren't really a great comparison as broadcasters remove their content you'll be forced with less and less choice on them. Netflix and Amazon currently offer third party content in just the same way Sky and Virgin do. What happens when Disney, Fox , Comcast etc remove their content and your forced to pay more to get the same content.

I don't use Amazon or Netflix for third party content, I use them to watch their original programming.

Sky content including Fox, etc, will continue to be available on Now TV or whatever Sky replaces it with when they move to internet only delivery, and free-to-view on demand services will still be available by whatever replaces the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 players.

I dare say there will be more free streaming services with unskippable advertisements showing junk, just as there are such channels now.

muppetman11 25-10-2018 13:24

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Totally changing what you originally say it's a bit of a habit of yours.

You've told us Disney/Fox , HBO , Showtime , Starz plus others would all have their own streaming services and thus there content wouldn't be included on Sky.

You seem to tell us the traditional method of bundling isn't viable but are in favour of replacing it with bundling but on a streaming service.:D

OLD BOY 25-10-2018 13:25

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35967927)
I pay £5 per month for Sky Cinema HD as part of my package. A package that was advertised on Sky's website for a limited time.

And as you know, there are brilliant deals available for Now TV. You seem to be comparing full price streaming with cut price conventional pay tv packages. To get a more accurate picture, you need to compare the full price of each service. We cannot predict what deals may be available in the future.

muppetman11 25-10-2018 13:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967932)
And as you know, there are brilliant deals available for Now TV. You seem to be comparing full price streaming with cut price conventional pay tv packages. To get amore a curate picture, you need to compare the full price of each ser ice. We cannot predict what deals may be available in the future.

Sky Cinema is available to add for most existing customers on Sky at £10 and has been for ages so 1p difference to Now TV normal price.

OLD BOY 25-10-2018 13:35

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35967930)
Totally changing what you originally say it's a bit of a habit of yours.

You've told us Disney/Fox , HBO , Showtime , Starz plus others would all have their own streaming services and thus there content wouldn't be included on Sky.

You seem to tell us the traditional method of bundling isn't viable but are in favour of replacing it with bundling but on a streaming service.:D

Not quite, muppetman, you are twisting it!

HBO and Starz already have streaming services over here, but that doesn't prevent Sky from doing deals with such companies, either to have those services added to their own service or to do deals on individual programmes. HBO is a perfect example of this. However, I can see the nature of that relationship changing within the next decade.

I don't think bundling of channels itself is unviable, but I do think the drastic discounts the likes of Sky are making available is not sustainable in the long term. It's the lack of advertising revenue that will kill off the scheduled programming channels.

denphone 25-10-2018 13:36

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35967930)
Totally changing what you originally say it's a bit of a habit of yours.

You've told us Disney/Fox , HBO , Showtime , Starz plus others would all have their own streaming services and thus there content wouldn't be included on Sky.

You seem to tell us the traditional method of bundling isn't viable but are in favour of replacing it with bundling but on a streaming service.:D

Contradictions are OB's middle name as l have lost count how many times OB has contradicted himself.

OLD BOY 25-10-2018 13:37

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35967933)
Sky Cinema is available to add for most existing customers on Sky at £10 and has been for ages so 1p difference to Now TV normal price.

I was paying double that to Virgin, but the price of packaging is different to what Sky provides.

denphone 25-10-2018 13:38

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967934)
Not quite, muppetman, you are twisting it!

HBO and Starz already have streaming services over here, but that doesn't prevent Sky from doing deals with such companies, either to have those services added to their own service or to do deals on individual programmes. HBO is a perfect example of this. However, I can see the nature of that relationship changing within the next decade.

I don't think bundling of channels itself is unviable, but I do think the drastic discounts the likes of Sky are making available is not sustainable in the long term. It's the lack of advertising revenue that will kill off the scheduled programming channels.

l somehow doubt it.

OLD BOY 25-10-2018 13:39

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35967936)
Contradictions are OB's middle name as l have lost count how many times OB has contradicted himself.

And yet you've never listed any with any degree of accuracy.

The problem is, Den, you either read more into my posts than what I actually say, or you mis-remember without checking that your recollection is correct.. Not sure which.

Raider999 25-10-2018 18:17

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I agree with the views several have posted - streaming will be expensive unless you want a very limited spectrum of viewing.

currently I have Sky Sports and BT Sports which give me access to

premier league football
Championship football
Scottish league football
Champions league football
Europa League football
FA cup football
International Football
International Cricket
County cricket
International Rugby Union
Premiership Rugby Union
New Zealand Rugby Union
South African Rugby Union
Super League Rugby League
NRL Rugby League
Formula 1

Plus a lot of other sports I barely watch.

If all of these set up their own streaming I will be faced with the option of only being able to watch a limited subset of what I currently watch or paying many times my current subscriptions.

I base this on the cost of streaming, an example of which is NRL rugby league which costs over £20pm.

Whichever way you look at it the cost of Sky and BT sports packages are reasonable compared with what is inevitably going to come if we are to believe OB.

OLD BOY 25-10-2018 19:04

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35967960)
I agree with the views several have posted - streaming will be expensive unless you want a very limited spectrum of viewing.

currently I have Sky Sports and BT Sports which give me access to

premier league football
Championship football
Scottish league football
Champions league football
Europa League football
FA cup football
International Football
International Cricket
County cricket
International Rugby Union
Premiership Rugby Union
New Zealand Rugby Union
South African Rugby Union
Super League Rugby League
NRL Rugby League
Formula 1

Plus a lot of other sports I barely watch.

If all of these set up their own streaming I will be faced with the option of only being able to watch a limited subset of what I currently watch or paying many times my current subscriptions.

I base this on the cost of streaming, an example of which is NRL rugby league which costs over £20pm.

Whichever way you look at it the cost of Sky and BT sports packages are reasonable compared with what is inevitably going to come if we are to believe OB.

I did say that sport was in a different category, but we'll see how that pans out over time. For example, Sky and Virgin could offer various packages of streaming services at a discounted price, or maybe have wholesale deals in place such as with BT Sport.

It's early days yet and we will have to see what transpires, but each of these streaming services will only attract small audiences if they do not enter into arrangements with the big suppliers of content that benefit the punters.

alwaysabear 25-10-2018 19:13

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35967960)
I agree with the views several have posted - streaming will be expensive unless you want a very limited spectrum of viewing.

currently I have Sky Sports and BT Sports which give me access to

premier league football
Championship football
Scottish league football
Champions league football
Europa League football
FA cup football
International Football
International Cricket
County cricket
International Rugby Union
Premiership Rugby Union
New Zealand Rugby Union
South African Rugby Union
Super League Rugby League
NRL Rugby League
Formula 1

Plus a lot of other sports I barely watch.

If all of these set up their own streaming I will be faced with the option of only being able to watch a limited subset of what I currently watch or paying many times my current subscriptions.

I base this on the cost of streaming, an example of which is NRL rugby league which costs over £20pm.

Whichever way you look at it the cost of Sky and BT sports packages are reasonable compared with what is inevitably going to come if we are to believe OB.

With the handle Raider what about the NFL?

Raider999 25-10-2018 20:16

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35967971)
With the handle Raider what about the NFL?


Used to watch it years ago (Monarchs) - however the handle pertains to Worthing Raiders Rugby Club

Kabaal 25-10-2018 20:23

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Do some of you not get bored arguing the same old back and forth year after year? I could disappear for 5 years, come back into one of these threads and it would still be familiar.

Seriously, look back through your own post histories over the years then compare them with the ones you are posting today.

denphone 25-10-2018 20:28

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Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35967982)
Do some of you not get bored arguing the same old back and forth year after year? I could disappear for 5 years, come back into one of these threads and it would still be familiar.

Seriously, look back through your own post histories over the years then compare them with the ones you are posting today.

You could say that with quite a few threads in this forum.;)


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