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Chris 04-04-2021 22:06
Re: Coronavirus
 
Several posts removed. Please be nice to each other and watch your language.

jfman 04-04-2021 22:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
The police are even more state apparatus than the BBC.

papa smurf 04-04-2021 22:11
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36076202)
Who makes the laws for the police to enforce? Answers on a postcard....
The problem is the police don't follow the law they exceed it's boundaries and see what they can get away with.

jfman 04-04-2021 22:19
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36076208)
The problem is the police don't follow the law they exceed it's boundaries and see what they can get away with.
And nobody holds the police to account.

The politicians know the police are their useful idiots, for beating up women and coal miners.

1andrew1 04-04-2021 23:36
Re: Coronavirus
 
Biden's administration getting remarkably hands on in response to a remarkable error.
Quote:
The Biden administration on Saturday put Johnson & Johnson in charge of a troubled Baltimore manufacturing plant that ruined 15 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine and moved to stop the plant from making another vaccine by AstraZeneca, senior federal health officials said.

The extraordinary move by the Department of Health and Human Services came just days after officials had learned that Emergent BioSolutions, a contract manufacturer that has been making both the Johnson & Johnson and the AstraZeneca vaccines, mixed up ingredients from the two, which led regulators to delay authorization of the plant’s production lines.

By moving the AstraZeneca vaccine out, two senior federal health officials said, the plant can be solely devoted to the Johnson & Johnson single-dose vaccine and avoid future mishaps.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/u...n-johnson.html

jfman 05-04-2021 00:23
Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-boris-johnson

Moonshot is back.

Dido Harding’s bank manager and former drinking buddies of Matt Hancock will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of a slice of £100bn for rubbish lateral flow tests.

Carth 05-04-2021 03:11
Re: Coronavirus
 
Pointless money down the drain on something that's regarded by some 'experts' as around 50% accurate . . .

quote from the above linked article:

Quote:
Stephen Reicher, professor of psychology at the University of St Andrews and a member of the Spi-B subcommittee of Sage that advises on behavioural science, said testing by itself was “no solution”, noting a rate of false negatives for self-administered lateral flow tests of up to 50%
Anecdotal I know, but I hear reports of school kids testing positive with these tests, and then being confirmed negative on a hospital test :rolleyes:

Taf 05-04-2021 09:58
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Thousands of tourists are still being let into the UK every day even though Britons have been banned from overseas trips...

Of the around 20,000 people arriving in the country every day, some 40 percent - or 8,000 - are tourists, figures compiled by Border Force staff revealed.

This rises to 80 or 90% at Gatwick and Eurostar terminals, while at Heathrow the proportion is around 20 to 30%......
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-UK-DAY.html

1andrew1 05-04-2021 10:44
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36076216)
If true, this is ridiculous. We don't want any of these variants taking foot in the UK. As an island nation, we should be well placed to prevent this.

Chris 05-04-2021 11:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36076220)
If true, this is ridiculous. We don't want any of these variants taking foot in the UK. As an island nation, we should be well placed to prevent this.
As we are a world financial centre, a world cultural centre, one of the world’s biggest economies, donor of the world’s most widely spoken language and former capital of the biggest empire the world has ever seen, our level of connectivity to the rest of the world pretty much eclipses our theoretical ability to control the entry points into the country. Our highly beneficial levels of connectivity to the rest of the world was one of the key arguments against the imperative of close ties to the EU.

Simply shutting our borders is not possible except in the very short term. It would cause immeasurable damage to our economy and our position in the world. The only way through this is by developing much more sophisticated ways of controlling access and keeping track of who comes in and where they go, but there are a whole lot of complications inherent in that process too. Much thought, time and money will be required.

jfman 05-04-2021 12:03
Re: Coronavirus
 
That’s a fancy way of saying the politicians don’t want to take the hard decisions.

If we are in lockdown again in the Autumn it’ll be for this reason. We ignored the evidence because we thought we could take the cheap/easy way out. As we have done throughout the pandemic.

Carth 05-04-2021 12:16
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36076220)
If true, this is ridiculous. We don't want any of these variants taking foot in the UK. As an island nation, we should be well placed to prevent this.
60 or 70 years ago you'd be right, but the massive technology leaps since then in International travel have opened our borders to many things, some good, some not so good, but it's here to stay.

Attitudes and expectancies have changed too, so don't you dare tell Ms Smith that her and her 5 kids can't go to Magaluf this week :p:

nomadking 05-04-2021 12:30
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36076223)
As we are a world financial centre, a world cultural centre, one of the world’s biggest economies, donor of the world’s most widely spoken language and former capital of the biggest empire the world has ever seen, our level of connectivity to the rest of the world pretty much eclipses our theoretical ability to control the entry points into the country. Our highly beneficial levels of connectivity to the rest of the world was one of the key arguments against the imperative of close ties to the EU.

Simply shutting our borders is not possible except in the very short term. It would cause immeasurable damage to our economy and our position in the world. The only way through this is by developing much more sophisticated ways of controlling access and keeping track of who comes in and where they go, but there are a whole lot of complications inherent in that process too. Much thought, time and money will be required.
Quote:
Thousands of tourists are still being let into the UK every day even though Britons have been banned from overseas trips - with recent arrivals including a holidaymaker from Peru who wrote on a visa form that he 'wanted to visit Big Ben'.
How is that a valid reason? 8,000 tourists EACH DAY.
When I've caught glimpses of TV programmes with Border Force in action, they appear absolutely desperate to let all and sundry in, no matter what.
Eg "Here to visit my brother, who's here illegally", no problem. Not enough money to stay anywhere, obviously just visiting and not here to stay illegally. Found with "cheat sheets" to get past customs and no documents to support id etc, gets told if they're under 18, they have to be let in. Guess what happens next, he announces he's under age, and is taken into care. Guess what happens next, of course he skips.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Just pathetic and CORRUPT.

Sephiroth 05-04-2021 12:30
Re: Coronavirus
 

Paywall link to the Torygraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...aign=DM1376627

Quote:
Fifty-two areas of England have had no cases of Covid in the over-70s during the past week, analysis reveals.

Accounting for a sixth of local authorities, the boroughs are in places as varied as Burnley, Stafford and Southwark.

However, the preponderance are in the east and southeast of England, which were hit hardest by the more infectious so-called Kent variant this winter.

Public health officials have credited the transformation to the success of the vaccine campaign and high adherence to lockdown measures.

Rother, a local authority area of East Sussex comprising Camber Sands and Battle, has England’s fifth-highest overall death rate from Covid-19, with nearly all of its 331 deaths occurring in the second wave.

But 13 weeks after the January peak of infections it is now one of the areas that has seen no cases among over-70s in the past week.

Carth 05-04-2021 12:47
Re: Coronavirus
 
I'm sure there are lots of over 70's just itching to get down the pub and local footy ground with their mates n chums, or jet off to a wild week in Benidorm . . .

. . . otherwise what's the point in printing that?


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