Cable Forum - Britain outside the EU

Throughout the Troubles, Biden voiced support for the Irish cause and sometimes took action in the Senate. In 1985, he opposed an extradition treaty with Britain that would have affected members of the Irish Republican Army who had fled to the United States. Taking issue with the British administration of justice in Northern Ireland, he helped force the GOP to water down the agreement.

1andrew1

20-09-2022 16:37

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36134542)

US trade deal not in our hands. Remember, Biden is Irish.

Just saw the news hidden in Damien's link about banker bonuses so posted the snippet.

Despite the promises of 2017, I don't think it was really ever on the cards whoever the President was. The US is focused on its treaty with Mexico and Canada and doesn't see the need to go beyond this given its large market size.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36134544)

People's views change - Truss was more recently a Leaver, before that a Liberal Democrat and before that an anti-monarchist.

papa smurf

20-09-2022 16:42

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134547)

She never supported a bunch of murdering terrorists and as far as i know the things she did support were all legal

ianch99

20-09-2022 16:54

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36134542)

US trade deal not in our hands. Remember, Biden is Irish.

In 2016, Barack Obama warned it could take the United Kingdom up to 10 years to negotiate trade deals with the US. This was dismissed as Project Fear.

1andrew1

20-09-2022 16:55

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36134552)

She never supported a bunch of murdering terrorists and as far as i know the things she did support were all legal

Agreed, my point was about a politician's views being able to shift over time.

papa smurf

20-09-2022 18:09

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36134562)

In 2016, Barack Obama warned it could take the United Kingdom up to 10 years to negotiate trade deals with the US. This was dismissed as Project Fear.

He's a racist pig who hates the British who gives a toss about his opinion

Dave42

20-09-2022 18:37

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36134577)

He's a racist pig who hates the British who gives a toss about his opinion

why because he told the truth and leavers don't like it

Sephiroth

20-09-2022 19:34

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36134580)

why because he told the truth and leavers don't like it

Doesn't alter the fact that Biden doesn't like the UK and prefers Ireland - and behaves accordingly.

Dave42

20-09-2022 19:40

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36134582)

Doesn't alter the fact that Biden doesn't like the UK and prefers Ireland - and behaves accordingly.

even if Trump was still in they be no trade deal congress would not allow it because of uk going to break NI protocol and threating the GFA people from both parties in America have said that

Sephiroth

20-09-2022 20:13

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36134583)

even if Trump was still in they be no trade deal congress would not allow it because of uk going to break NI protocol and threating the GFA people from both parties in America have said that

... and, of course, they'd be wrong.

Pierre

20-09-2022 21:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36134539)

Trade deal with US won't happen in 2022 as promised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62968072 (see end of article)

Didn’t think you wanted one anyway? You know all that chlorinated chicken et Al. You should be happy.

1andrew1

20-09-2022 21:35

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36134592)

Didn’t think you wanted one anyway? You know all that chlorinated chicken et Al. You should be happy.

If you can get a deal on the right terms, it would obviously be good for the country so I'd be up for it. But as I said before, the US is not particularly interested in going much beyond its current free trade area with Mexico and Canada, whoever is in power.

1andrew1

22-09-2022 19:57

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I think the Telegraph is trolling Johnson here over getting Brexit done! But I predict now Truss is PM we'll get this resolved and hopefully this will pave the way for us to participate in Horizon Europe.

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Brexit deal looks closer than ever under Liz Truss

A Brexit deal looks more likely than not after Britain set a six-month deadline for negotiations over the Northern Ireland Protocol.

The one thing Brexit deadlines have in common is that they are almost all missed. A deal to cut Irish Sea border checks, however, can be struck by the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement in April.

By setting the deadline, Liz Truss has taken the threat of the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill off the table for now. The prospect of tearing up the treaty with the legislation enraged the EU, which said the move would break international law.

The rhetoric from both sides has softened. London and Dublin have talked of a “landing zone” for the agreement.

That lies somewhere between reducing checks enough to satisfy Britain while keeping enough safeguards to reassure Brussels that nothing not meeting EU standards crosses from Northern Ireland into Ireland.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...3994b5987e14b1

1andrew1

01-10-2022 10:52

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I wonder what we've done differently to the rest of the G7?

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UK remains only G7 economy to languish below pre-pandemic levels

GDP stuck 0.2% below final quarter of 2019, but latest growth data now positive

Significant revisions to UK data indicate that Britain is the only G7 economy that remains smaller than it was before the pandemic, despite an improved performance in the second quarter that diminished fears of recession.

Office for National Statistics figures released on Friday showed that UK gross domestic product for the three months to June this year remained 0.2 per cent below the level it reached in the final quarter of 2019.

Previously, official data had indicated that GDP had risen 0.6 per cent above pre-pandemic levels by June.

By contrast with the UK’s failure to return to pre-pandemic levels, the eurozone economy reached 1.8 per cent above 2019 levels in the second quarter. The US had recovered to pre-pandemic levels by the start of last year.

Friday’s UK growth downgrade was largely due to a lower ONS estimate of 2020 output. However, growth for 2021 and this year was revised higher.

Samuel Tombs, chief UK economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, said the figures will compel the Office for Budget Responsibility, the UK fiscal watchdog, to revise down further its estimates for future potential GDP. They would also mean that the tax-to-GDP ratio will be slightly higher than previously estimated.

“The damage inflicted to the economy’s supply side by Covid and Brexit is even larger than previously thought,” Tombs said.

https://www.ft.com/content/4edae69b-...a-03d14ca8caa6

Dave42

02-10-2022 20:29

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Tory MP Steve Baker apologies to Ireland and EU for behaviour during Brexit
Northern Ireland secretary says he and colleagues had not always respected others’ ‘legitimate interests’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-during-brexit

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