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It should be spent in a more meaningful way, rather than ridiculous false nails, tattoos, and damaging tans.

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Just because they're not your thing doesn't mean they're "wrong" in any way.

How the economy recovers is not a matter of who-likes-what. It's a case of what will get cash flowing through the country as quickly and efficiently as possible.

If you don't want false nails, a tattoo or a "damaging tan" then don't have them. But bear in mind when these places reopen there will be literally queues of customers who will be desperate. It matters not one bit whether you or I approve of them. They a source of income for the employees, the companies will (in theory initially, hopefully continuing) prosper and that sort of thing is what the economy needs.

Individual feelings very much need to put to one side.

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Agreed

I've already stated that I personally think they're off putting and look stupid . . . much the same as others feel about me smoking, driving a large car, and playing Black Sabbath albums backwards looking for hidden Satanist messages . . . but it does keep the money flowing and people in work.

And paid work of any kind that gets money moving around is what the country probably needs right now, considering many won't have been spending as much as normal* over the last few months.



* . . although the wife & daughter have been trying hard ;)

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We've had notification on some of the plans to reopen our gym all makes me much less inclined to go.
1)No changing or showering facilities.
2)Have to book slots - with how I work that's not easy. I may plan to go 1730-1930 but get a call so work, then eat then want to go 2000-2200.
3)Distancing - OK this may work but some people (especially on weights) work in pairs but at some times gym can be busy with some equipment having queues.

Masks - how does that work wanting to drink while on CV equipment? Heavier masks won't help your breathing, will light ones fall off? Wiping sweat off?

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I also side with Russ on this one. :)

None of those things is of any interest to me at whatsoever, but I see no reason people cannot spend money on them if thats their thing.

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Not all gyms have or centre on cardio equipment. For the record I completed a 6 mile run with a mask on all the way. Sure it was uncomfortable but do-able.

Not having changing facilities wouldn’t be a problem for me, I live a few hundred yards from my gym. Booking slots may be challenging as I’m pretty anti-social in the gym and prefer early morning slots, preferably around 4 or 5am. As for people training in pairs, I’ve never been a fan of that. Twice as long to wait for them to finish plus the long chats whilst “rearing” between sets. If they bring in a no-spotting rule I won’t be too bothered.

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If you're breathing more heavily from exercise, won't that make masks less effective? Air will be forced in and out to a greater extent, and in around the gaps between mask and face.


Isn't this what I've been saying?
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The EU seeking total control.

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If the place was full to capacity and people weren't socially distancing then I guess theoretically there's an elevated risk.

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If you're breathing more heavily then the necessary distance increases.

If you're moving your head around a lot, the maths of simple ballistics shows that also increases the distance travelled. Think of the difference, if a javelin thrower threw the javelin at 45 degrees compared to just horizontally. An angle of 45 degrees gives the maximum amount of travel. The projectile has the opportunity to travel further distance before hitting the ground from gravity. So tilting your head back by eg 20 degrees, increases the distance travelled.

Breathing more heavily also increase the risk of virus particles being forced through any material.

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You’re still not getting it. There’s nothing 100% effective. If masks are the difference between R being 0.9 or 1.1 that’s huge.

I’m quite sure you understand the concept of collective bargaining.

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Not sure about other people as I don’t tend to pay much attention to gym users around me but I can’t say I’ve ever moved my head around much, a lot or even a little when lifting weights. I tend to just move the muscles I’m trying to work.

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The higher the speed of the "projectile", the greater the distance travelled. Again, the maths of basic simple ballistics. A virus particle might sit quite happily on the surface of a mask, but might be sucked in or blown out more easily. Think differences in power in vacuum cleaners. Basic maths and physics. The central point should be, is it an extra unnecessary risk worth taking?



We've already got the agreements in place for a not too dissimilar price. We also have first dibs, rather being last in the EU dictated queue. Firms aren't chasing a profit with this, so collective bargaining isn't relevant, being first in line is. The 100m doses already negotiated would've instead been allocated by the EU. If even we got back that 100m, it would take longer to do so.

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Aggregated over the entire population using one reduces risk. This is a fact regardless of whether someone is exercising or not.

Depends who gets the vaccine first.

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The transmission risk is higher, compared to people breathing normally. That is why singing is banned in churches etc.

You think that countries like Poland and Romania, are going to contribute the full cost of their doses?:rolleyes: Even in your nonsense collective bargaining scenario, the UK would be paying over the odds compared to negotiating ourselves, as we would be paying for other countries as well.
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