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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36076000)

I'm not German mate . . . and how would you pronounce that in Swahili? ;)

kitambulisho

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36076000)

I'm not German mate . . . and how would you pronounce that in Swahili? ;)

Apparently "Ausweis" translates to the Swahili word "kitambulisho".

EDIT: Papa got there before me. Anyway "Ausweis" is a well know demand from the STASI and GESTAPO. Apparently now by the French Gendarmerie.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36076006)

And soon to be pubs, clubs, shops, footy match, public toilet......

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36076006)

And if you translate it back to German it comes out as "ICH WÜRDE", I would.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36075997)

Again, a very, very, very long way from Kristalnacht, lebensraum, genocide, massacres of civilian and miltary prisoners, nacht und nebel, euthanasia of disabled children

Yeah, yeah, yeah you can quote massacres, and genocide and the killing of children as a counter argument.........bit excessive don’t you think?

The curtailment of our bog standard freedoms is not something to be trivialised, and the more worrying issue is that people like Homer have now been frightened into thinking that a persons freedom is a bad thing and should be be put into check.

The “evidence” is still that those under 50 are still very unlikely to die from Covid and then the jump to the under 40’s is very pronounced. Considering that those likely to go out for night out are probably younger, risk is low.

Passports for foreign travel, I can support. Passports within country? Absolutely no way.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36076011)

And if you translate it back to German it comes out as "ICH WÜRDE", I would.

As in (1944):

German soldier: "Ich wuerde nach Metz fahren".

French Gendarme: "Ausweis, mein Herr?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36076012)

Yes, 1 do think that - it was your comparison... :rolleyes:

Re ‘the young"...

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470

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Young, low risk patients with ongoing symptoms of covid-19 had signs of damage to multiple organs four months after initially being infected, a preprint study has suggested.1

Initial data from 201 patients suggest that almost 70% had impairments in one or more organs four months after their initial symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

The results emerged as the NHS announced plans to establish a network of more than 40 long covid specialist clinics across England this month to help patients with long term symptoms of infection.

Long Covid: Virus 'like Russian roulette' for young and healthy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55635451

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The risks of long Covid mean catching the virus is like "playing Russian Roulette" for the young and healthy, a leading immunologist has said.

A panel of health workers suffering with the long-term effects of the virus described pain, fatigue and debilitating nerve damage.

They warned against a "black and white" view of Covid as an illness that was either mild or deadly.

An estimated 5-10% of patients remain ill two months after being infected.

https://news.sky.com/story/long-covi...gland-12165947

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Long COVID: 'I thought being young and fit would protect me - I was wrong'

"It’s just like the flu" is now "it doesn’t affect the young" - in both cases, the statements were made hopefully...

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36076014)

Yes, 1 do think that - it was your comparison... :rolleyes:

you know very well my comparison was metaphorical and you took it literally, but you know what you were doing so we’ll leave it there.

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Initial data from 201 patients suggest that almost 70% had impairments in one or more organs four months after their initial symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection.

201....... from millions. Long Covid is certainly an issue, not understood yet for a small % of those infected.

Come out from behind the couch.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36076015)

ong Covid is certainly an issue, not understood yet for a small % of those infected.

20%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56601911

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36075747)

Meanwhile this gives pause for thought.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36076017)

20%.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56601911

I would hesitate to define “long Covid” as 5 weeks.....................

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36076013)

As in (1944):

German soldier: "Ich wuerde nach Metz fahren".

French Gendarme: "Ausweis, mein Herr?

The real question is whether “vaccine passports” for venues or events will get more people out spending more money. Would such venues have different distancing rules, if so £££.

If it gets more people “out from behind the couch” as Pierre puts it then it’s already a done deal. It’s how they sell it that’s the question.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36076026)

It’s a really difficult question. From a purely practical point of view I can see the benefits of such a scheme, but anything that arouses cross-party passions in the way this has demands careful study. I mean what unites Jeremy Corbyn and IDS?

Useless Leaders of the Opposition? :D