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1andrew1 27-08-2021 09:39

Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36091110)
you can't blame Trump, he is not overseeing the withdrawl.

No, the Taliban are.

Pierre 27-08-2021 11:08

Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091116)
No, the Taliban are.

I didn't realise that the Taliban had taken command of the Whitehouse and of the US forces.

Carth 27-08-2021 12:40

Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36091125)
I didn't realise that the Taliban had taken command of the Whitehouse and of the US forces.

Nah, the Ruskies still have it ;)

Damien 27-08-2021 13:51

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Trump wanted to leave earlier and was the one who signed this 'deal' with the Taliban.

But the Talian broke the deal anyway so there was nothing stopping Biden from overturning it and there was nothing stopping Biden from ignoring Trump's deadline (he did push it back after all). There have been plenty of things he has already ignored.

Biden ultimately took the decisions that have led to this disaster. Biden wanted to leave as well.

Chris 27-08-2021 13:57

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Indeed.

Trump's grandstanding in Doha was bordering on the megalomania. He is guilty of plenty and he is certainly guilty of inciting the Taliban by giving them legitimacy and political cover for what they have done over the past couple of weeks.

But none of it would have happened had Joe Biden accepted that now was not a good time to withdraw American forces from Afghanistan. He and he alone is responsible for dropping millions of Afghans, not to mention international allies who are there in support of America because of America's invocation of Nato treaty article 5, in some very deep smegola indeed.

1andrew1 27-08-2021 14:20

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36091149)
Indeed.

Trump's grandstanding in Doha was bordering on the megalomania. He is guilty of plenty and he is certainly guilty of inciting the Taliban by giving them legitimacy and political cover for what they have done over the past couple of weeks.

But none of it would have happened had Joe Biden accepted that now was not a good time to withdraw American forces from Afghanistan. He and he alone is responsible for dropping millions of Afghans, not to mention international allies who are there in support of America because of America's invocation of Nato treaty article 5, in some very deep smegola indeed.

Biden was obsessed by quitting by 11th September - 9/11 - according to several commentators.

Chris 27-08-2021 14:27

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
I'd heard that too. However this was reckless even for a country whose politics is driven by PR.

Damien 27-08-2021 14:36

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
What better way to commemorate 9/11 than having the Taliban reinstalled in Afghanistan eh? Almost has a nice symmetry to it.

downquark1 27-08-2021 15:13

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
It is worth pointing out that this mess doesn't indicate the past few months have been botched but rather the whole 20 years of nation building in Afghanistan was botched. Since there isn't in fact a nation that can survive a week without an occupying military.

Maggy 27-08-2021 15:28

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36091160)
It is worth pointing out that this mess doesn't indicate the past few months have been botched but rather the whole 20 years of nation building in Afghanistan was botched. Since there isn't in fact a nation that can survive a week without an occupying military.

:tu:

1andrew1 27-08-2021 16:21

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36091156)
What better way to commemorate 9/11 than having the Taliban reinstalled in Afghanistan eh? Almost has a nice symmetry to it.

America will be commemorating 9/11 by tracking down the terrorists who killed Americans on 8/26 at Kabul Airport.

papa smurf 27-08-2021 16:48

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091168)
America will be commemorating 9/11 by tracking down the terrorists who killed Americans on 8/26 at Kabul Airport.

Don't hold your breath, they are just empty words.

Chris 27-08-2021 16:49

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091168)
America will be commemorating 9/11 by tracking down the terrorists who killed Americans on 8/26 at Kabul Airport.

Only if they can spot and engage them from a high-altitude drone without any significant intelligence from ground operations. They really have reduced their ability to operate in Afghanistan pretty much to zero.

1andrew1 27-08-2021 17:06

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36091173)
Don't hold your breath, they are just empty words.

I was being sarcastic. ;)

papa smurf 27-08-2021 17:07

Re: US President Joe Biden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091176)
I was being sarcastic. ;)

needs work ;)


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