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Struggling to believe this is actually happening.

Until the FA fixes this absolute mess then they've got no choice but to go with it. They've already made an arse of it that many times it's impossible to turn back now.

On what planet is the resolution used in VAR high enough to determine if anyone is truly offside by millimetres.

Can we at the very least get the referee going to check a monitor.

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Why are the Premier League not using the monitor like they do in every other major league..

Its absolutely crazy.

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Meet West Hams new manager.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50942538

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1https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50960288
Recognised the name. Can't recall anything on him being removed. Shows you how much attention refs really get. Unless you're Howard Webb.

Re: the article, out of context or not. You've made a right arse of it. Tit. Not really sure how he's managed to get this article. This isn't PC culture gone mad. Mocking disabilities was never a cool joke for the lads. Thankfully the world woke up. Filming someone with a walking impairment the using it as your own gag. Classless. Hope the joke with the lads was worth his job.

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Looking back I've somehow managed to miss the part where the FA basically covered this up. :erm:

Anyway it's 8am and we haven't signed anyone yet.

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Indeed the FA being their usual secretive self decided in their interests not to tell the rest of the world..

So much for a open and transparant image they try to portray.

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VAR. They've done it again. They don't have a choice now. You can't pull the rules halfway through. A serious look into it is needed come the seasons end.

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That looks inevitable adzii.

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As soon as you introduce ambiguity real problems will start.

At the moment it is a zero tolerance situation which is not open to interpretation by an individual - either a bit, however small, is offside or it isn't.

Leave it as it is, it's the same rules for everyone.

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Don't you think they should have the TV video screen on the touchline as and when it is required by the referee?.

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Except they're measuring the offsides at two completely different points on a resolution that can't be enhanced or zoomed. If it's not clear with the naked eye then they're very literally guessing. Your point would be valid if they could actually distinguish whether someone's armpit was on or offside. They can't. They'd need a goal line technology system running the entire length of the pitch. So right now they're measuring straight lines at completely different perspectives and then attempting to draw lines to players off said line. Unless it's clear and obvious that an offside has occurred the system does not cater for anything other. It's physically impossible to make decisions with 100% accuracy like the ones they're attempting to do now so as above, they're literally guessing. Every other league in the world knows this, except us.

It's not hawk-eye or goal line technology. It's a replay that has very little give. They're attempting to use replays to make Millimetre decisions. It can't be done.

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Off or on. Again, measuring from a perspective that couldn't possibly give you a valid outcome.
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Same incident with the resolution they're working with.

Change the rules to do the opposite. Every single decision that needs this level of scrutiny with a system not fit to provide a conclusive answer is a goal. Don't get me wrong though, as per my previous post. They have to keep doing this until the end of the season now for consistency purposes, they can't change it till then.

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I hear what you are saying Adz.

Maybe it's the offside rule that needs rewriting?

I'm not suggesting VAR is perfect but it's better than what we had to catch the cheats.

Having said that bizarre decision not to give a penalty against alderweireld today....

NVM great result :D

PS when you score a disallowed offside goal and get injured - priceless

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Not sure I would class 95% of offsides as cheating. Diving, tactical fouls, handball, time wasting, feigning injury are all cheating but virtually all offsides are just genuine attacking attempts.

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Not sure it was meant in that context. Definitely more a reference to blatant diving and handballs etc.

This will be re-applied and likely now enforced come next season.

Basically if it can't be rectified with the naked eye then no offside is given.

The other issue with VAR - It's only ever as good as the people sat behind the screens. It can absolutely get something horribly wrong. World Cup had some stinkers. It's a penalty, we had rule changes to clarify it and with VAR they still got it double wrong. I mean the Ref missing it isn't much better.

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An absolute waste of money, time and effort. For all the good it is you may as well toss a coin . . heads it's offside, tails it isn't.

Can't believe people are suggesting changing the offside rule (again) just so it fits into the VAR framework :D :D

As mentioned though, if it's something clear and obvious that the officials missed I don't (can't) see a problem with it, trying to measure millimeter accuracy however, is simply guesswork :rolleyes: