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pip08456 12-12-2018 18:43

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
I suppose this is now viewed as objectionable, discriminatory or whatever in our increasingly PC world.



It is an increasingly sad world we are living in with everyone taking offence.

Hugh 12-12-2018 19:01

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Probably not...

Angua 12-12-2018 19:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35973672)
If you substitute ‘PC’ with ‘treating others with respect’, it changes your view, I find.

For instance, "It’s treating others with respect gone mad, I tell you!", doesn’t quite have the same ring to it... ;)

Whilst there are a few outliers that are just plain silly, the fact that we cannot, with impunity, be openly derogatory to minorities, women, and those with disabilities seems a good thing to me.

YMMV.

PC seems to fall into the same category as all the H&S OTT claims, many of which seem to be down to badly trained H&S officers over thinking the rules.

pip08456 12-12-2018 20:24

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35975069)
PC seems to fall into the same category as all the H&S OTT claims, many of which seem to be down to badly trained H&S officers over thinking the rules.

You really mean a lack of common sense don't you?

Hugh 12-12-2018 20:25

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35975078)
You really mean a lack of common sense don't you?

I think you may have hit the nail on the head there...

Carth 13-12-2018 12:41

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Those nails are taking a bit of a hammering lately, someone should start a petition to ensure it doesn't become widespread :D

Hugh 13-12-2018 13:23

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35975238)
Those nails are taking a bit of a hammering lately, someone should start a petition to ensure it doesn't become widespread :D

Wouldn't do that - it might upset someone... :D

RichardCoulter 15-12-2018 19:02

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35975055)
Having the right doesn't make it right, just sad. Sad to what it's become. Those people that take offence with comedy really need to get a life.

It does if you found it offensive as opposed to amusing. Whether a joke is considered to be amusing or offensive is ultimately decided by the recipient(s) of it.

The world has changed and Allen has to either adapt or face the consequences. For balance, he isn't the only older man that has found this to be difficult over the course of history. People get used to how things are for many years and find it confusing and irritating when they get pulled up for something once considered mainstream and routine.

In years to come, young people of today will be doing/saying something without even thinking about it, but I can guarantee that when they are Steve Allen's age they will find that society disapproves of the thing that they are doing today.

TheDaddy 15-12-2018 23:14

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35975518)
It does if you found it offensive as opposed to amusing. Whether a joke is considered to be amusing or offensive is ultimately decided by the recipient(s) of it.

The world has changed and Allen has to either adapt or face the consequences. For balance, he isn't the only older man that has found this to be difficult over the course of history. People get used to how things are for many years and find it confusing and irritating when they get pulled up for something once considered mainstream and routine.

In years to come, young people of today will be doing/saying something without even thinking about it, but I can guarantee that when they are Steve Allen's age they will find that society disapproves of the thing that they are doing today.

It must be hard being as self righteous as you. What ever happened to just switching it of if something is annoying, now it's all about hurt feelings, funny how money always makes it better though and it wasn't the recipient who complained, he knew nothing about it until someone told him later, then for some bizarre reason thought they were going to phone him, how they'd get his number is beyond me but now the lawyers are involved it's safe to assume money will make his poor hurt feelings go away to and we'll all still be in limbo as to how he was going to get the guide horse in the lift or on the bus, just not good enough.

I'd bet the origional complainant isn't blind either for the record.

ianch99 16-12-2018 00:37

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35975055)
Having the right doesn't make it right, just sad. Sad to what it's become. Those people that take offence with comedy really need to get a life.

There are some exceptions to this. There is a line, we are just discussing where the line is.

RichardCoulter 06-01-2019 15:13

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35975558)
It must be hard being as self righteous as you. What ever happened to just switching it of if something is annoying, now it's all about hurt feelings, funny how money always makes it better though and it wasn't the recipient who complained, he knew nothing about it until someone told him later, then for some bizarre reason thought they were going to phone him, how they'd get his number is beyond me but now the lawyers are involved it's safe to assume money will make his poor hurt feelings go away to and we'll all still be in limbo as to how he was going to get the guide horse in the lift or on the bus, just not good enough.

I'd bet the origional complainant isn't blind either for the record.

This is a typical example of the arrogance and contempt that some non disabled people think is acceptable to treat disabled people. It's really upsetting to see time and time again that it takes something happening to either themselves or their loved ones to alter their attitude.

And don't think that this sort of thing only happens to other people. Someone, somewhere will go to bed tonight as they have countless times before and will have a stroke whilst they sleep. They may wake up unable to see, speak or walk ever again. This could be you and I bet you wouldn't find it funny if others found it amusing and objected when made to stop.

50% of us will get cancer, would you like to have a laugh at their expense whilst your at it?

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35975559)
There are some exceptions to this. There is a line, we are just discussing where the line is.

Exactly. I would also add that it's not the people making jokes that get to decide if something is acceptable or not, but the recipients.

Most jokes are at the expense of someone else's mistake or misfortune,. If someone in that position wishes to make light out of it as a coping strategy etc (like Lost Voice Guy), it's their right to do so, but it wouldn't be appropriate for other comedians to mock him.

Russ 06-01-2019 15:14

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35978029)
This is a typical example of the arrogance and contempt that some non disabled people think is acceptable to treat disabled people. It's really upsetting to see time and time again that it takes something happening to either themselves or their loved ones to alter their attitude.

And don't think that this sort of thing only happens to other people. Someone, somewhere will go to bed tonight as they have countless times before and will have a stroke whilst they sleep. They may wake up unable to see, speak or walk ever again. This could be you and I bet you wouldn't find it funny if others found it amusing and objected when made to stop.

50% of us will get cancer, would you like to have a laugh at their expense whilst your at it?

Yeah I disagree with him on a lot of things but I’m pretty certain his comments are based on things about you other than your disability. Just hazarding a guess of course.

And last time I checked cancer isn’t a disability. Very low blow from you.

RichardCoulter 06-01-2019 15:20

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Just been on Radio 4 that facebook are complaining that their profits are being reduced because they have had to take on an extra 15,000 moderators. I say it's tough, they have made enough money off the backs of various groups for long enough.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35978033)
Yeah I disagree with him on a lot of things but I’m pretty certain his comments are based on things about you other than your disability. Just hazarding a guess of course.

And last time I checked cancer isn’t a disability. Very low blow from you.

Could you enlighten me Russ, because of my own disability I sometimes find it difficult to understand people who talk in riddles.

I can assure you that cancer is a disability, both legally and practically.

Russ 06-01-2019 15:24

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35978035)
Just been on Radio 4 that facebook are complaining that their profits are being reduced because they have had to take on an extra 15,000 moderators. I say it's tough, they have made enough money off the backs of various groups for long enough.

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Could you enlighten me Russ, because of my own disability I sometimes find it difficult to understand people who talk in riddles.

I can assure you that cancer is a disability, both legally and practically.

Really? My father wasn’t disabled when cancer took him. Tone down the self righteous attitude and we might start taking you seriously.

RichardCoulter 06-01-2019 15:39

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35978037)
Really? My father wasn’t disabled when cancer took him. Tone down the self righteous attitude and we might start taking you seriously.

Legally he was.

I'm not actually being self righteous; this is probably the effects of your autistic condition. It's very usual for person's with this condition to get hold of the wrong end of the stick (and the other way round).

Are you able to explain what you think 'The Daddy' is trying to say? It's ok if not, this is an area where my disability affects me.


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