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Maybe pigs will fly; we'l get sweet nothing from the EU, we're on our own, don't blame them. Money for the NHS lol -was that ever really going to happen from the right wingers behind Brexit ? Even they couldn't suppress a laught when asked if they'd deliver on it.

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No not a big deal except they have more migrants per head than we do, a lot more in fact


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...he-answer.html

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Seeing as we're using norway as the 'model' of choice they pay 80% of what a full member would for no say in running it

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As I pointed out, it is essential for them because they have to build up the portfolio of their Sovereign Fund.
From Jan 2016, ie NOT 2012.Dec 2015
Of the 37,474 that left, only 10,090 were Norwegian. Eg 3.446 were Polish.

And they get the "better" ones.

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Right wingers? Racist? Hateful? When are you going to understand why there was such a huge leave vote in England and Wales and a large Leave vote in Scotland?

Because of people who are not racist, right wing, hateful being told they are as soon as they have an opinion. These people are mostly working class white people in towns/cities north of London who have seen their industries/manufacturing/factory's closed and replaced with shopping centres.

If Brexit causes a few thousand job losses in London I can show you a many more job losses that happened whilst we were in the EU north of London. The people being told financial uncertainty is coming and it's their fault are people who have been living with financial uncertainty for years and years. Telling them the FTSE100 has dropped or the £ has fallen against the € is pointless. They already live in poverty, start listening and start listening now or Britian is going to become a very ugly place.

Or keep standing on these people telling them they're uneducated rght wing racist biggots.

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How is that different from now? The deal that Cameron got was an insult to the intelligence. It was a deal to stay in the EU at any price.

Most of his ideas were ignored because the EU has no intention of reforming, which is why when dissatisfaction in the EU grows and when the anti-EU parties in Europe really go to town there will be more referendums with more EU countries forced to leave. Why? Because their leaders are as out of touch with ordinary people as Cameron was.

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Not this one.

It would not be in the interest of the EU to give us nothing. The Germans want trade as usual. I can see more leaving if they don't get their act together.

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Nore this one, the country is have a panic as it now has to listen to the more of 50% of us that have been ignored. This is the bigger problem, so at first they called us racist, then right wing, then hate filled . Once they calm down they still have to listen us. So they better get used to hearing us!

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Indeed. However Mr K. is right in a way. An MP on news yesterday was saying some of his Constituents were regretting having voted leave but they will be vindicated in the end.

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Yeah I would agree, I'm sure there is also remain who were frightened into voting remain who would now vote leave.

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You are forgetting that we can still trade with Europe just not as an EU member.

Yes, we lose the right to vote but then the EU wasn't listening to us anyway.

If we pick a model that works for us and we pay less to trade, the EU still has the problem of making up the loss of the British contribution. I wonder who will pick up the tab.

If they treat us badly other nations are going to see the EU's true colours and that will stir more resentment and more desire to leave.

It will be interesting to see the outcome of France's elections next year. I wonder if Mr. Hollande will change his mind and his attitude if the National Front make major gains. After all leaders only really take notice when it's their job on the line, which is why they can happily stand by issuing the usual platitudes when your job is on the line.

I don't see the EU worried about British families and workers. They just want to get rid of us. It's a bit like finding out that your so-called best friend actually detested you and only hung out with you because you were buying their drinks.

The only positive EU feedback we have had has been from Angela Merkel and she wants to trade. She's going to feel bad that David Cameron lost his job ramming a derisory deal down the throats of UK voters. They are trying to pressurise us like they pressurised the Greeks but the Brits are made of sterner stuff.

We have until the autumn to see what the Conservatives come up with. I think until then it's just a case of wait and see.

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Where in the post you quoted does Mr. K say 'racist' and 'hateful'.

Helluva straw man argument when you have to make stuff up...

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Because this country is making a drama out of all this leaving the EU and making sound like we're all going to die. then naturally a lot of people are going to believe we're all going to die.
a lot of foreigner's think they're all going to die. and/or be sent back home.

we as a country are a bloody disgrace. we have been acting all this time. the real truth is we haven't got a bloody clue!

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There is an element of truth about that, Gary. Nobody will actually know anything until the new PM is elected, the EU strategy is unveiled and we see how the EU respond.

Like us the EU could be expecting the worse but might be pleasantly surprised and relieved with what we propose. If there is good will on both sides, there could be a good solution to all this. Equally if they put heavy tariffs on us we can do the same.

Cutting off your nose to spite your face never is a good strategy so let's hope that these negotiations are full of common sense and good will.

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Just a random musing: Boris is advocating our replacing EU with EEA. Outside political structures, freedom of labour movement, single market, etc. Remember all the stuff about Turkey joining the EU? Guess what we lose veto of?

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Rare I agree with you but that is absolutely spot on. The entire country from politicians down is in a state of panic.

It's not fair on us, it's not fair on migrants living here, it's not fair on the rest of the EU.

I have to hand it to them, leaving us be to get our excrement together is going to cause them some grief. It's actually really good of them to do that (he says through gritted teeth ;) ).

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If the EU want Turkey to join then Turkey will join, if anyone thinks Britian could of stopped it they are deluded beyond belief.

Loose a country of 65 million and gain a country of 76 million, I guess it's bye bye Britian. An as for panic? Is this the same as the panic buying of fuel someone on here predicted or infact had witnessed happening? Leavers are not panicking , London might be but this country is a lot bigger than London.