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Will21st 15-06-2014 08:50

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35706977)
Its all ending in tears again.:bigcry::bigcry:

what else did you expect? :dozy: ;)

iadom 15-06-2014 09:20

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Good movement up front but TBH this a long way from a good Italian side. At least now England and Uruguay have lost it means they both have to go for it in the next game.

colin25 15-06-2014 09:28

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35706978)
England played well. If they play like that against Uruguay and Costa Rica they're well capable of 2 wins.

I am not convinced.

England look weak. A good average team at times (at best), but not a world beater.

Italy are not the best team in the world.

denphone 15-06-2014 09:33

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35706999)
Good movement up front but TBH this a long way from a good Italian side. At least now England and Uruguay have lost it means they both have to go for it in the next game.

The one thing Italy do well is to keep the ball and once they get a lead we all know they are very hard to break down as it proved last night.

Uncle Peter 15-06-2014 11:31

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
I just don't think you can play that system without exposing the full backs. You need to have your defensive midfielder drop back to the flanks to cover the full-backs. Hodgson is under the illusion (delusion) that the wide attacking midfielders will do that job. Play 4-4-2 if that's what you want from your wide players.

Gerrard could probably perform that role if asked but I doubt he'd last 90 minutes.

The first Italy goal was a result of Gerrard not doing his job properly and second goal was an unfortunate lack of communication and it would be harsh just to blame Johnson, Jagielka should have been aware and stuck to the closest man. What are they doing in training if they can't deal with the situation that led to either goal. That's for Hodgson to sort out.

TheDaddy 15-06-2014 15:18

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35706993)
And Baines...

I thought it was Rooney more than Baines fault whereas Johnson had yet another poor match

Shadow Demon UK 15-06-2014 18:19

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35707052)
I thought it was Rooney more than Baines fault whereas Johnson had yet another poor match


Rooney wasn't playing on the left when Italy got their second

denphone 15-06-2014 18:37

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35707073)
Rooney wasn't playing on the left when Italy got their second

From what l can remember was not Welbeck switched to the left.

iadom 15-06-2014 20:28

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
This is more like a Europe v S America World Cup game, lots of niggling fouls already.:D

That foul for the pen was exactly the same as the one on Gerrard that went unpunished last night. :(

denphone 15-06-2014 20:47

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Come on iadom you must know by now that we never get many decisions that go our way.

colin25 15-06-2014 20:55

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35707112)
Come on iadom you must know by now that we never get many decisions that go our way.

Boo hoo, nobody loves me?

Really :D

Mal 15-06-2014 21:16

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
Just watching the BBC coverage of the France - Honduras game and was it just me or did Jonathan Pearce have trouble understanding that it wasn't the first rebound of the post that was given as a goal, but when it rebounded off the goalkeeper? The simulation showed that.

denphone 15-06-2014 21:25

Re: World Cup road to 2014
 
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35707114)
Boo hoo, nobody loves me?

Really :D

Nothing of the sort dear chap as l am just stating what has happened over many many years.:)

thenry 15-06-2014 22:33

Re: World Cup 2014
 
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Matt Le Tissier ‏@mattletiss7
Is it just me or is thierry henry completely mugging off robbie savage
8:54 PM - 15 Jun 2014
https://twitter.com/mattletiss7/stat...64249798918145

Uncle Peter 16-06-2014 00:00

Re: World Cup 2014
 
Jonathan Pearce... is he still stealing a living?

Have a word BBC


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