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It’s as if Oscar Wilde was reincarnated in North Lincolnshire, but with more polydactyly and less pithy* wit…

*apologies for the interdental lisp…

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That looks like GB News on wheels. Let's hope it's more reliable! :D

Personally, I think they should retain the existing liveries, even if they do nationalise them.

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It'll soon get an asbo graffiti paint job. Hopefully nothing rude :LOL:

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North east Lincolnshire, do ya dig me ;)

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More fun and games promised later today when the exchanges between Mandelson and government minsters are released!
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...enoch-12593360

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Defense secretary resigns


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgqeg09p3p1t


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2993909.html

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We can't keep public transport and the NHS working, schools and education in general has fallen into the pit of despair, and the police are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Not sure if we had far greater armed forces we could arm them with anything better than small rainbow flags with 'welcome' printed across the middle.

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starmer will no doubt spout some drivel about school breakfast clubs and all the houses they're not building

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i've taken the head off my yard brush ready to do my dads army bit :)

update: ive sticky taped a pen knife to it ready for hand to hand combat

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The sooner we get Burnham into No 10 the better on the basis that he can't be any worse!

Unfortunately, Starmer's regime seems to have adopted its Conservative predecessors' definitions of "strong and stable" rather than what you and I think this term means.

It's a real shame that the reduction in GDP came when we most needed it to increase defence spending.

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I'm now looking to trade the car in, but there doesn't seem to be any of those 4x4 pickups with a 50mm mounted in the rear available.

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We don't have money, and we hollowed out big aspects of the state so we need even more money than we had before.

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We (the UK) don't seem to have any money, but the people seem to.

They keep spending it on cars, new iPhones, 60" TV's, cookers, washing machines, furniture, clothes, sunglasses :erm: etc. . . which is good, until you realise many of the above are imported and therefore the UK only gets a miserably small amount.

Having said that, I highly doubt any manufacturing companies in the UK will get away with paying workers £35 for a 60 hour week ;)

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They don’t like it up ‘em.


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If the people have money, the bustards will tax it.

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It's taxed when you earn it, taxed when you spend it, even taxed when you peg it. Maybe we could go back to bartering?

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Just check out what there pals getting for clocking in at the lords . The government knows how to look after themselves.

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However, he also could be worse.

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I agree

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2026/06/1.jpeg

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People make me laugh, we have sold our souls in terms of all those public assets that should be making the country money and we are left scratching around hoping inflation will eventually wipe away our debts and now there's no money people still want first rate services except of course they'll have to pay for them, they want this labour government to right the wrongs of the last 50 years, with no extra money and if they don't do it overnight there will be trouble and we'll invite some extremists to show us how shafting everyone who isn't a millionaire donar should be done properly, this country.... :(

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hehe yep, and there are articles all over the net (and some media) about how people shouldn't fall into the 'buy now pay later' trap of borrowing more than you can afford to pay back . . yet the Government(s) seem to see it as the only fiscal approach there is :D

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And now Al Carnes (the former armed forces minister) has resigned for the same reason, and this is someone who served four tours in Afghanistan.

It’s not looking too good is it?

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It absolutely beggars belief that Russia is actively harrying Nato borders, charting every undersea cable surrounding our islands, and laughing at the widely-known fact that we more or less don’t have a functioning navy, and yet No.10 and the Treasury are determined to keep making the same mistakes that every government has made for the last 30 years to get us in this position.

It’s almost as if Starmer has a list of Ways In Which I can Screw Up Today on his office wall and is ticking them off one by one.

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Starmer just doesn't want to do anything bold or decisive, either. I wonder if anyone told him that a big part of being PM is making decisions. He seems to take the path of least resistance for everything, until he is forced to do something because things have got too bad.

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Dan Jarvis has got the job now, but he can’t really *do* the job if the Treasury won’t give out the money he needs and Starmer’s too weak to force them.

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Well at least we have a fully trained (and armed) army of farmers and landowners who have extensive experience if they send drones at us . .

https://external-content.duckduckgo....ecf&ipo=images

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Funnily enough, there are pictures of Trump being totally ignored, too. If a photographer waits long enough, they can get pictures of any of them standing a
One.

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As you say…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1781647552

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Caption for that photo above:

"who let these people into MY photo"

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Alternatively, everyone in the background are trying to get away from the odour of ordure.

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looks like the war is on for the keys to number 10

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-news-updates



remember andy is a normal working class bloke who smashes his breakfast avocado with a clog

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In that war Sir Keir will find himself more impotent than an air traffic controller looking at Iranian drones about to crash into his airport in Dubai.

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You would - you think "reasonable" means "people who agree with you", so at least you're consistent in your delusions... ;)

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Quite.

FWIW I think most people want to see Starmer out - he’s simply not lived up to expectations given the emphatic majority in Westminster (if not among voters). A majority voted for someone else and the minority who voted for him now more than half of them want him out.

It’ll be interesting to see if Burnham proves to just be a northern Starmer. Recipe for a ballot box implosion in two or three years time.

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Not often you see a Tankie and a Farage-supporting Berks Conservative agree - congratulations… ;)

(even if you’ve approached the agreement from different directions - Seph thinks Starmer is too left-wing, jf thinks he’s too right-wing… :D )

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Cards on the table, i want Starmer to go in the most embarrassing way possible.I hate the man and he can take Rachael from accounts with him as well.

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as one of the pensioners he was happy to freeze to death,i hope it's as painful and belittling as possible

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i didn't freeze to death but starmer didn't care if i did he just cut off funds to 10 million pensioners,and stuck two fingers up at the disabled

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So if Burnham becomes Prime Minister will we see Rachael from accounts returned to the accounts dept.

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only to be replaced by loony ed.he'll pick your pocket to fund labour lunacy :(

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The "from accounts" reference is from the TV series "Colin[a dog] From Accounts". She was never in accounts.


Don't see why a big shift in policies should happen as a one-off result of a by-election in one constituency. Doesn't have the mandate.

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From the little I've bothered reading, it seems Burnham will be making the same 'promises' that Starmer made . . probably followed by the same U-Turns due to the same lack of cash.

Also pushing for HS2 to continue to Manchester . . . a vote loser if ever I saw one :erm:

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Just imagine if all the HS2 money & materials spent to shave 5 minutes off a train journey was instead ploughed into social housing, NHS, dentists (lol) . . in fact anything that would help (rather than decimate) communities

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Not about reducing the times. It's about reducing the traffic on the existing lines.

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Didn't all the strikes and cancellations go far enough then? :D

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Apparently there are over 100 MP's calling for starmer to resign, I would love for him to do it but as a middle finger to Labour and those who wanted him out, doing what he always demanded of the conservatives, I hope if he does resign he also calls for a general election!

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Why?

The last four Tory PMs* who resigned didn’t…..

*in 2016, 2019, 2022, & 2022…

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Yes, Hugh, but he criticised the Conservatives for not calling an election when they changed their leader and said it would be different under Labour.

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He won't because he is a multi faced liar.

He called for a general election each time the conservatives swapped leader, he called for a general election when Liz Truss was blamed for crashing the economy which she didn't, it was down to bond/gilt yields and the bank of england iirc, since 99% of her policies never actually got implemented.

He called for one at every possible opportunity, now he will be his 2 faced spineless self and just allow Burnham the guy who wanted people to pay £18 each way per day to drive in and out of all areas of Greater Manchester, no matter what they drove, to become the PM when the leadership challenge is launched.

Burnham is worse than Starmer as difficult as that is to imagine, but hey ho he will be the next PM and just wait, taxes will sky rocket, congestion charges, ULEZ, Clean Air Zones will be put across the whole country, personal transport will be banned if it uses a motor even an electric one.

The guy is a clown and will, force the UK without a vote back into the EU, taking the Euro as currency, getting rid of the army, navy and air force in order to solely rely on the EU Army!

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Nicola West has made a very good song about him.

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To be fair, every time a current PM has been ousted, the opposition has called for an immediate General Election on the grounds that xyz has ’no mandate’. It’s expected, it’s just a part of the political process, even though everyone understands that this is not how our (unwritten) Constitution works.

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The key difference is that this will be an orchestrated coup with a vastly different agenda in mind.

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Burnham has pledged not to raise taxes so his plans can't vary too much economically. Socially he's more conservative than Starmer but that probably puts him closer to the views of the electorate.
Truss's unelected agenda was vastly different from that of her predecessors.

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Prime minister Sir Keir Starmer expected to resign tomorrow it seems.

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as leader i think starmer won 411 seats , king andy has won one seat i can't see why starmer would resign, don't get me wrong i hate the man but why should king andy get an easy ride to the top job

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We could say that about the six previous prime ministers in the last 10 years with Burnham very likely to be the seventh.


Quite ridiculous in my view.

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Andy "I Am Legend" Burnham is the current flavour of the month in political circles.

To the general public he's probably just another 'wannabe' PM with big promises and grand ideas that will fail to materialise.

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Who needs a holiday in Europe these days? With temperatures in the 30s, a football team playing very well* and a new PM every two years, England is becoming more European than ever! :D

* second half v Croatia

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Ultimately, Starmer has largely been a failure and lost all confidence of his MPs. It's slightly surprising how badly he has done, but he seemed to have no plan at all.

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It was the cost of borrowing that spiked after she announced large tax cuts with no plan to pay for them. She lost the confidence of the bond markets, which spiked everyone's mortgages, and the Tories had to get rid of her. It was her fault.

You can't say she wasn't warned, either. Sunak himself had said her plans would cause this, but she played the 'project fear' card and promptly tanked the economy and her leadership.

As for the general election, yes, it will be hypocritical. It always is when a PM resigns. When Brown took over, there were plenty of people demanding an election that didn't demand it when the Tories changed leader. Now there will be people who demanded an election after each Conservative PM changed that will say no election is needed. Happens all the time.

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Is it?

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This is silly, though. Investment in infrastructure can help further growth, which in turn would help pay for more day-to-day spending. Housing would also be a good target for such spending. There is a difference between one-off large expenditures in things like HS2 and the yearly spending commitment you make when putting more money into the NHS.

Also, HS2 was about increasing capacity as well as speed. Taking pressure off regional services by having an additional direct intercity train line. It would have made journeys between cities shorter and increased local services and train capacity.

We should have funded such things when interest rates were at rock bottom. More jobs, more spending in the economy and eventually more modern infrastructure. Instead, we just cut everything and wonder why the country is slowly dying. We don't want infrastructure built, we want to make it more difficult to trade with other nations, we want to make it more difficult for even very qualified people to move here and work, and we also don't want to make it easy to start new businesses.

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How is it not an orchestrated coup?

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Oh I’m with you on the orchestrated coup. It”s the belief his policies will be any different.

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We need to get back to more stable times, economic growth, higher productivity and a stronger Pound that deters UK companies from being snapped up at cheap prices.

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Is he his best friend or something :shrug:

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Trump just noticed something going on that he wasn't named in. If Starmer doesn't resign Trump will claim he never said it, then spitefully declare war on the Isle of Wight and start intercepting ferries between Liverpool & Dublin

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Yes, to his credit Starmer had the courage to say no whereas Badenoch and Farage would have pandered to Trump and dumped us in it. History shows they're not to be trusted in positions of real power.

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Lol very true except you probably mean the Isle of Man?

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Nope definitely Isle of Wight, the Isle of Man is too near to Scotland, he doesn't want to start a golf war :D

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The more I think it is completely ridiculous a non-MP can stalk a PM out of office.

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Not defending the bloke, but surely he doesn't just 'do stuff' without guidance, research and expert advice from the people he's assigned to head up various departments. Funnily enough (once again) those who led him down the path are those with the knives out :D

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to be fair they are all incompetent,no one in the real world would entertain them.

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Burnham is a fan of PR, he'll get my vote in perpetuity if he brings that in, imagine everyone's vote actually counting for something and no more of this 30% of the vote and 100% of the power BS

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Well said, the NHS waiting lists that Starmer inherited were a global embarrassment.

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Yes, but ultimately you don't have to do what they recommend. A few resignations in the Cabinet over the last couple of years suggests this has happened.

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Well said, especially as when they inherited it there was 70% public satisfaction with it

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The lectern is out at no 10

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aah . . I mistakenly thought 'lectern' was a new silly name for Starmer :D

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he's off :cleader: best birthday present i've had


i'm so emotional,running out of tissues,i can hear the worlds smallest violin playing ...

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The next week or so could be better entertainment than the bigliest and besterest Trump World Cup :D

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Depends if anyone challenges Burnham

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I’m coming round to the idea that news channels should be regulated to only have a percentage of Westminster coverage, and a minimum percentage covering news stories from around the UK.

It’s one big Westminster podcast of tittle tattle.

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And there we go.
Keir Starmer announces his resignation as prime minister and leader of Labour Party
Just not quite yet.

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And a minimum for covering items from none english speaking countries.

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Can we also ban those reporters and 'correspondents' that speak in a dull flat robotic monotone, and those with the squeaky highly exited voice that cuts like a knife.

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From what I've heard, that's extremely unlikely.

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Nobody else wants to sip from the poisoned chalice, much easier to let the next stooge take the seat, then snipe from the background ;)