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Are there no channels on VM that Sky customers want in the same way as the popular atlantic?

Is it not possible for a new channel to be created that shows most of the atlantic shows but 6 months behind? I don't know the in and outs of how the media deals happen, so it may sound like a silly question, although just uneducated.

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"popular atlantic"?

According to BARB, Sky Atlantic is less watched that C5+1, 5USA, Alibi, BBC4, Challenge TV, Fox, Quest, Really (and others) and on a par with 4Music.

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This thread alone shows it is popular and desirable.

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Would it not have lower viewing rates simply because only sky customers have Atlantic so less have access to it compared to the other less exclusive channels? ;)

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So it's popular, but not watched by many people?

Oooookaaaay then....:D

Sky has 10.3 million TV customers, and series like The Following has 300-400k viewers, Alan Partridge had around 200k viewers - 2 to 3% of the potential audience must be a new definition of 'popular' I hadn't come across before...;)

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It all depends on the Studio and the deal they have made with the service provider that has first run rights.

What you suggest is a good idea, but I am pretty sure that the deal between Sky and HBO prevents that happening.

Many TV shows have first run and second run rights, where a pay TV channel shows it first and a Freeview TV channel shows it a year or so later. Castle is an example; Alibi show it first and channel 5 show it later. I can't think of any Sky show, that is first shown on a Sky pay TV channel and then shown on a non Sky freeview channel later. So it looks as if Sky buys both first and second run rights to all the shows they buy. Plus, HBO seem to like to restrict how their content is shown, so that isn't likely to help.

So, although your idea is a good one, I just can't see it happening. Sky have allowed some of their Atlantic content to be shown on other channels, namely the first seasons of Game of Thrones and Smash. But there is no guarantee that future seasons will be shown anywhere except Atlantic.

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I guess the question is, what would the viewing figures be if it Atlantic was available on the same platforms as the channels you list? It's not a like for like comparison. The viewing figures are already higher than a number of channels that are available on VM and Sky. I am of course assuming that link covers all platforms and not just Sky, apologies if I am incorrect. I am frequently seeing trailers of programmes that I would like to watch, only to be disappointed to find out they are on Atlantic. Personally to me it would offer more than many of the channels VM currently carry.

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I understand your point, but as I said, Sky TV has over 10 million customers, and only around 2-3% appear to be viewing these 'popular' programmes.

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Out of interest, do all 10 million viewers receive Atlantic or is it in Sky's equivalent of the XL pack?

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But when has 'popular' been the only criteria to determine the quality of a show? I suspect that many highly acclaimed TV shows wouldn't do too well in the popularity stakes.

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I would agree with you, but a poster in this thread/page did state that That was the point I was trying to address when I stated I am not sure if shows on a channel which garner 2-3% of the potential viewing audience could be classed as "popular"...

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SKY Atlantic is the best channel not only on British TV but the whole wide world. Viewing figures are so low because the channel is too cool to be proper mainstream. That's why Virgin or BT will never get the channel. It's reserved for cool cats like Muppetman and I. If you ain't happy about that, write a letter to your local MP or somethin' :D

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There is Film 4 HD?

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But in the context of this thread, Qtx is correct in what he stated in that the addition of Sky Atlantic to VM is a popular request on this thread, which infers that it would be a popular channel on VM.

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Regarding Sky Atlantic: maybe VM should obtain it from Sky like they get BoxNation ie a monthly fee; this way people who want SA can have it (albet at a price) and those that do not want it don't subscribe... just a idea so don't shoot me...

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My my what has the world come too when we get the Dark master and his loyal apprentice holding the world at ransom with their obedient servants walking single file behind them.;):D

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...w=1366&bih=653

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...w=1366&bih=653

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sa...w=1366&bih=653

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Ten million subscribers to Sky means closer to 3 or 4 times that number who actually live in a household which has Sky.

But viewing figures are only really a small part of the story here - Sky estimate the channel drives a quarter of its new subscriptions, and I'm sure somebody will trot out the usual arguments about time shift viewing. It has a value to Sky in excess of its audience share and advertising revenue.

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What you on Den? (and can I have some please) ;)

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Oh dear a Sky kiss ass

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I believe that Sky are already due to get that sometime this year.

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I think you may have missed the grin emoticon at the end of Chad's post ;)

Anyway Chad, I claim 'coolness' by association. Well, we do post on the same thread! :D

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I would imagine Sky value its deal for shows on a total viewership over the life of the deal , the BARB figures only represent live viewing plus 7 day time shifted viewing , Sky now regularly put their content on its OD service as full boxsets they also tend to run the previous series a few weeks before the new series airs , Game of thrones series one also picked VM viewers up when it aired on Sky One and further down the line shows can air on Pick TV as an example the Orignal Stike Back series aired on Pick TV.
September this year.

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Oh Den,Den,Den......http://bit.ly/XxGJm7 :D

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Cheers for the info. Sure hope that HBO doesn't start a trend with the extreme restrictions. They do make (and have made) some great series so I guess this has given them more leverage in any deals.

The media world is so cut throat due to the money to be made. Not pleasant at all

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Surely the Original HBO in America would be superior to Sky Atlantic?

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Nice one:)

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Cheers bud :D

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Nah, they don't get to watch Cleverdicks.

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Actually no. In the US, HBO isn't just the drama and comedy we see on Sky Atlantic, but is a movie and sports channel too. The first run drama series are few and far between and there's no Mad Men, Seinfeld or any of Sky's own programming. If anything I'd say Sky Atlantic has better schedules than the original HBO (and HBO2) in the US.
But it doesn't have any ad breaks in the shows...

http://www.hbo.com/#/schedule

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No you`re not! I`m not bothered either:)

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Nor me. Not my cup of tea at all, but I do hope it comes for those who want it.

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What is your cup of tea Doug?.

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Mines a Bovril I needed that at the football yesterday, I nearly got snow blindness ;) had to laugh the referee came from your neck of the woods Den, I heard that one fan shouted to him, " I hope you're not going to call the game off now that we are here and he replied After driving for 5 and a half hours to get here, there is NO way this match is being postponed" he is now a legend at Luton:D

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I have Sky movies HD and I don't think I could bear to sit and watch a film with adverts in ever again, I have tried to watch film 4HD and can't, sky might get it but I bet everybody with Sky Movies won't watch it.

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Basically not American television. With a few exceptions I really don't enjoy it. Atlantic therefore is a bit of a non-starter for me.

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Glad am not the only one, I pretty much don't watch any American programming..

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Racist ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/30.jpg

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What! You don't watch the Waltons!

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Proper good old fashioned homely stuff that.:)

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Yep, My TiVo nearly threw up when I set a wish list!.

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I just have lol

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Seems the BBC are really pushing iplayer now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21919621
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21893854

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Yes indeed they are MM and l can't say we should be surprised at that because as we know it is very popular.

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I record every programme I want to watch and this way I can avoid the ads altogether simply by fast forwarding.

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4HD has superior picture quality to the Sky Movies HD channels, as does TCM HD.

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We had a poll on HD picture quality and opinions varied dramatically on which channel people thought was best....

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SONY own them and the last deal sign was in late 2011 when SONY TV UK launch on Virgin Channel 193.

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Really? That dog gets right on my moobs, it is awful.

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It's still a pain, I use sky movies as a way of watching movies I don't think are worth acquiring or renting on blu-ray, so film 4 is so way down on my list it doesn't really merit a mention.

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MB, what do you rate the chances of Discovery Science HD?

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good stuff on film 4 this week. godfather trilogy (ok everyones seen them, and III is so bad I switched it off half way through)

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And The Lord of the Rings trilogy is on this week and next week as well.

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All part of them posturing towards future TV licence tax income. No doubt they will want a levy on all broadband connections at some point or something similar.

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You still require a TV license to watch live TV on the internet, they're pretty much future proofed forever.

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Discovery do not broadcast an Discovery Science HD channel in the UK and Ireland.

But Animal Planet HD, E! HD and Universal Channel HD will launch on Virgin TV soon (It will be after Easter now).

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Do we think they will drop into the XL pack?

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Still to get more info from insiders.

(Info I saw was from rumours posted on DS Forum.)

Reports say Vintage TV may launch on April 2nd on Virgin Channel 343.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35552482-post1.html

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I have just received an email from VM offering Picture Box at half price £2.50 for three months. I guess Netflix & Love film are having quiet an effect. Looking at what Picture box offers I am not surprised.

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Strange AB as l got one about a hour ago as well and just deleted the email as its a total waste of time.

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On that we agree. :)

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Why can't they hurry up and give us what many customers want and that is a chance to subscribe to Lovefilm or Netflix.

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That's two half price offers and a freeview month recently. Surely the beginning of the end.

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Its been doomed from the start as the overall quality of the films on offer is very poor.:td:

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Well it's been going for a while so some people must be paying for it. As somebody who once paid a subscription for film4 I feel adequately qualified to assert that fools are easily parted from their money!

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...And that's a recommendation? Doesn't sound like 'good stuff' to me when everyone's seen them and one is duff!

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Ah, but it's all about the choice, my man, the choice. We want it all!

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I just don't get why anyone would be waiting for these to be added to Tivo.

First of all, the Netflix service you would get on Tivo would limit you to UK Netflix only. On a non Tivo Netflix device, for an extra £3.20 a month, using a service such as Unblockus, you can access all Netflix regions and the need for Lovefilm disappears because there is so much Netflix content available. There are even the first seasons of a couple of Sky Atlantic shows available, i.e. The Borgias and Blue Bloods.

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Because the US TiVo already has Netflix, so all they need to do is change the odd thing as its done. I'm sure the Amazon Video on Demand app isn't too structurally different to other LoveFilm apps either.

Essentially its so little effort for these companies, why shouldn't we have the apps?

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Don't disagree, and the Tivo Netflix apps is one of the best. But it's been a long time coming and non Tivo Netflix apps offer the advantages I outlined.

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Its only available in the US on TIVO's bought from TIVO not TIVO's through a cable operator , that's the big difference.

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You don't see a senior employee (Mrs. Rose) of Comcast, Dish, etcetera, talking about a Netflix app though.

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Got them on remastered blu-ray, and they look and sound way better than on film 4HD. To be honest most films on film 4 ive either seen hundreds of times, or are total classics and i have them on blu... I bet most serious film buffs are the same.

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Exactly, because of the film rights, etc. However, in a couple of years or so, this could all be transformed. However, we've got to get it first!

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I would be very surprised if there was any technical reason why the US Tivo Netflix app couldn't be added to the VM Tivo. It's all down to whether VM want it added. On two occasions Neil Berkett has suggested that they do, yet nothing has happened. VM seem as confused as to whether they really want it, as we do as to why we haven't got it. But I still don't understand why people are making a fuss about VM not having it when there are better Netflix alternatives out there.

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From reports this morning it looks like Spotify is planning to join Netflix and LoveFilm in offering VOD. As Spotify is already available on TiVo I wonder whether any new service will make it onto Virgin Media boxes in the near future.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...streaming.html

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The UK and US Apps the same - the selection you get is based on your location.

A UK user gets the US selection by faking their location - but I don't know if you can do this on a VM TiVo.

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I have had a look at Netflix, Picturebox and Lovefilm and in my own opinion-they are all cr*p!

There is no real decent content on any of them-not enough to for a subscription anyway!

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Nope you wouldn't be able to as you can't edit the DNS settings for the inbuilt connection

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TLC and TLC HD to launch on April 30th on Virgin Media.

S4C set to move to new channel number?

http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2013/03/tlc-...on-april-30th/

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Because Netflix are just setting up over here and they are set to bid for movie contracts currently held by Sky. Furthermore, we don't all have the equipment to access Netflix through our TVs and resent paying more to get it when it should be perfectly possible to add it as an app on the TIVO (either ppv or subscription).

2011/12 was the year for Broadband, 2012/13 has been the year for TV - let's hope that 2013/14 is going to be the year for some really good TIVO apps on Virgin Media.

If VM don't do something soon they are missing a trick in attracting and retaining customers. 'Connected' TVs have already put the TIVO to shame in terms of apps, and as more and more people buy these TVs, the TIVO will start to become less significant in terms of a 'must have' piece of kit.

As far as the American version of Netflix is concerned, this would obviously be preferable for VM TIVO users, but Netflix are not contractually permitted to do this, so the technical issues are irrelevant. Netflix have to negotiate separately for the rights to show their content in Britain.

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Exactly, by faking their location. You don't seriously expect a reputable company to encourage this practice, do you?

I don't understand this new attitude that because you have the technical ability to get around something that is disallowed, it's OK. As by doing this you are depriving the content owners of income from outlets here in the UK (such as Sky) and indeed you are depriving Sky of subscription income as well for the material they show on their channels such as Sky Atlantic, you are probably committing an offence if this is what you are doing. I would imagine that this is a fraudulent activity or just pure theft. Are you comfortable with this?

Just as people are beginning to become aware that they cannot commit defamation over the internet without consequences, I am sure the law will sooner or later catch up with those who watch stuff illegally (in fact a start on this has already been made for the higher profile abuses). Better watch out, this 'laissez faire' approach to content piracy will not last.

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I never suggested this !?!?!

If you look at the massive archive tv content available on Netflix US - you would see the appeal.

A lot of the stuff from 50s to 80s is not available anywhere in the UK - not even on DVD.

The films on Netflix US you can find in the UK (somewhere) - so I have no dispute about them being blocked.

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The appeal is zero for me as it is illegal.

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What is illegal??

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If Lovefilm comes to TiVo - lets hope they will provide HD video (which they do not for PS3 users) and 5.1 audio (which they do not for any UK user).

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Yes they do my mate has a ps3 and there are plenty on there in HD and 5.1 audio.
:)

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You mean you seriously don't know? You should not be faking your location in order to access films and other material not designated for access to this country. If it was legal, you wouldn't have to fake your location, would you? Sky only have the right to show their HBO content in this country - they can't suddenly decide to make it available to other countries.

It is important that people understand this. You get away with what you get away with in this life, but believe me, the noose is tightening. I wouldn't want anyone on this forum to be caught with their pants down.

So to speak. :erm:

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You said: "A UK user gets the US selection by faking their location - but I don't know if you can do this on a VM TiVo." Sorry if I read more into that than you meant by your comment.

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I agree with you, it's all too tempting! However, I am sure that the British selection will improve markedly over the next few years as rights are acquired to show this material in the UK.

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I was trying to find the link, but can't. Someone who runs a Netflix related site, checked with Netflix about using a service such as Unblockus, which is a form of VPN, and Netflix have no problem with it.

I pay for both Netflix and the Unblockus service and never download pirated copies of any film or TV show, whether free or not.

Whether a service such as unblockus is breaking any laws is sometimes debated on forums, with no conclusive answer. So I think of it as a grey area, but one that I feel comfortable living with.

If the whole content distribution system was reformed, then non of this would be necessary. As, as I said, I will not download pirated content from file sharing sites, but it is useful to note that it was the illegal file sharing activity that eventually forced the music industry to set up legal forms of streaming with fewer territorial content barriers. The film industry really should have taken note of that.

And with regard to separate Netflix devices apart from Tivo, A laptop can easily be hooked up to the TV, many new TVs and Blueray players have Netflix apps, and you can get a streaming device, which is very small and neat from around £50.

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It is important that people understand this is simply not true. It is against the terms and conditions that people sign up to - and therefore the company may cancel a users account.

This is ENTIRELY different from being illegal, which, in case you seriously don't know,means it is against the law. It is NOT illegal.

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Agree - it's not illegal. Same way you can buy Region 1 DVDs with content intended for the US and play them on a multiregion player here - which is often "hacked" to get it to play R1 discs.

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Followi9ng your post, I did a google search and it does appear that Lovefilm is a available in 5.1 on selected devices.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/lovefi...ormance_Page-3

I wasn't aware of that. They have a lot of catching up to do with Netflix though, as I think 5.1 is available on most devices, except the web site streaming, which is stereo and limited to 720P on Win 7.

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Yes, I'd forgotten that. Multiregion DVD players are freely available to buy in the UK, and sold as Multiregion Players, not haked.

People don't think twice that it may be breaking any laws. People would think you crazy if you suggested that it was. I've been buying region I DVDs for years. Maybe I should send them all back?

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:D and :mad: It's a new channel, but the shows on this channel are no good to me: LAUNCH FOOD NETWORK AND TRAVEL CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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On a PS3, Lovefilm provide what they call 'High Quality SD' - which is not HD. They put a HD on the film image when its true HD - Lovefilm PS3 statement

Lovefilm tell me that there is no 5.1 streaming at present - including on my Samsung App.

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If you subscribe to Amazon Local Deals, there's an offer to get 6 months of Lovefilm for £10, a value of £29.94.

Tempted to give it a go, but I heard a while ago it's a nightmare to cancel. Maybe that side of it has been improved recently?

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I cancelled and they still charged, within 24 hours of emailing them it was fixed. Don't know what people class as a nightmare, I'd say more of a minor inconvenience.

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Maybe not a HD channel to set the pulses racing, but good to see Virgin getting a HD channel from launch, hopefully a sign of things to come.

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Well, if you are prepared to put your money where your mouth is, as you are doing, good luck with that.

At the very least, this is a breach of copyright but it is only a matter of time before someone puts this practice to the test.

People have this strange attitude that the internet takes you to a different place where normal reality does not apply. In time, you will see that I am right. The absence of prosecutions to date does not mean you are safe.

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So where do you stand on the purchase of region 1 DVDs and playing them in the UK?

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Owning counterfeit goods is not a crime or illegal either. Selling them is though.

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I can't comment on that because I don't know enough about it. But if our UK DVD recorders play them, I would have assumed that it was lawful and the DVD was produced with the copyright issue sorted out. However, I have to say that I haven't looked into this so don't go by what I'm saying on that issue.

The copyright laws are really what you need to watch, because if you are breaching copyright, you can be sued. The fact that you've paid money for it is neither here nor there. People think that just because they've paid Netflix via Unblock Us, everything is hunky dory. But it's not!

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You might find this of interest. http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/scotla...feit_goods.htm

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Will be watching this one :shocked:

My Naked Secret – This series follows the journey of individuals as they struggle with hiding an embarrassing secret about their body. With the help of a therapist, these individuals work to reveal their painful issue to family and friends,and Kelly, who has struggled for years with enormous 34KK breasts, as they go to great lengths to keep them hidden.

Would imagine it would be difficult to keep those hidden

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Netflix might not care, but I think you're somewhat missing the point - in the case of hbo content (someone mentioned that some Atlantic content was available) Sky will be the injured party as they own the UK rights. Netflix saying "yeah, whatever, give us your money" really doesn't change that!