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denphone 07-02-2012 16:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16925705

Quote:
John Terry will not retire from international football despite losing the England captaincy, BBC Sport understands.

The Football Association informed the Chelsea defender, 31, he was losing the armband on Friday.

Terry is due to stand trial in July over racial abuse allegations after an incident with QPR's Anton Ferdinand.

But sources close to Terry have told the BBC he is not considering his international future.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16918255

Quote:
Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish welcomed Luis Suarez back from a lengthy absence in the draw with Tottenham but again said he should never have served a ban.

Uruguayan Suarez returned as a substitute in the 0-0 stalemate after an eight-game ban for racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra.

"It's fantastic to have him back. He should never have been out in the first place," said Dalglish.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16905818

Quote:
Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has defended Fabio Capello's criticism of the Football Association's ousting of England captain John Terry.

Terry, 31, was stripped of the armband pending his trial in July over alleged racial abuse of QPR's Anton Ferdinand.

On Sunday, Capello said he "absolutely" did not agree with the decision.

Players' Union boss Gordon Taylor said England coach Capello's criticism was "bizarre" but Ferguson said: "There's nothing wrong with having an opinion."

Terry remains eligible for selection, despite losing the captaincy.

But Ferguson added: "I think what will happen in the next few days is there will have to be a coming together of the FA hierarchy and Fabio Capello because he's the team manager, he has the importance of that position.

adzii_nufc 07-02-2012 18:26
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
"I think it's a disease that's coming into the game where players roll around and they're looking to see if they can get people booked or sent off.
"Then you get situations when players are falling around and rolling around when they have not even been touched.
"Really and truthfully the player is trying to get the player sent off."
Tony Pulis telling it how it is.

denphone 08-02-2012 06:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...neral-belgrano

Quote:
As tension rises over the 30th anniversary of the war between Britain and Argentina over the Falkland Islands, the Argentinian government has named the upcoming football season in honour a naval ship sunk by British torpedoes in the conflict.

The season, which begins on Friday, will be the known as the Crucero General Belgrano Primera División or Cruiser General Belgrano First Division in English. Argentina lost 649 servicemen in the war, 323 of whom were crew members on the Belgrano.

The Argentinian government owns the rights to First Division matches and shows games on free-to-air TV.
One word "idiots" :(:td::(

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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35377788)
Tony Pulis telling it how it is.
And never a truer word spoken.:tu:

denphone 08-02-2012 11:49
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...medium=twitter

Quote:
Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp and Milan Mandaric have been cleared of all charges of tax evasion.

At the end of two days of consideration, a jury found both men not guilty at Southwark Crown Court.

Julian 08-02-2012 11:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
The crook escapes. :mad:

Must have been Spurs fans on the jury.

If the idiot ever gets the England job I wont watch any of their games.

MalteseFalcon 08-02-2012 11:54
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Even though he manages Spurs, I'm pleased he got found not guilty.

adzii_nufc 08-02-2012 11:54
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
D-day for Capello and many calling for his sacking. Capello should make a statement himself and simply stand down citing the fact he is the manager of the England National Team and apparently has no control regarding the management of the team itself. Of course I'm talking about The F.A stripping JT of his captaincy. I'm assuming next they wont allow him to be picked for the European Championship this year.

Of course the worst part of this is half the people couldn't care less whether or not he is a racist or guilty. They just simply don't like Terry and make it seem like they give a crap when really they would love nothing more than what is currently happening. Gordon Taylor and Co are doing an excellent job into making this a public circus where the masses can voice abuse at him day in day out. Terry, Barton etc. Its just a bandwagon people cant help but jump on :td:

This can only lead to the inevitable failure at Euro 2012 with all the negativity going on. I'm sure Rio could lead us this year! Shame he looks as average as a n inform Titus Bramble. If Terry's Guilty then thats that. If he's not I see the media kissing his arse like they never doubted him.

This is football now.

Scandals
Racism
Diving
Hilarious refereeing
A corrupt Governing body in FIFA and a Frenchman that hates the English as President of Uefa... Oh and Tax dodging English managers!

:p:

denphone 08-02-2012 12:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-16945017

Quote:
Former England footballer Paul Merson has been given a 14-month-driving ban after pleading guilty to drink-driving following a motorway crash.

Merson crashed his Mercedes ML350 into a 38-tonne lorry after falling asleep at the wheel on the M40, near Warwick, Leamington Magistrates' Court heard.

The former Arsenal, Aston Villa and Middlesbrough midfielder was also fined £1,500 over the crash on 12 October

Damien 08-02-2012 12:40
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378090)
D-day for Capello and many calling for his sacking. Capello should make a statement himself and simply stand down citing the fact he is the manager of the England National Team and apparently has no control regarding the management of the team itself. Of course I'm talking about The F.A stripping JT of his captaincy. I'm assuming next they wont allow him to be picked for the European Championship this year.
The FA has a image and moral problem with allowing someone facing trial for racist abuse captaining the side. It would have been too awkward to have him as captain at the Euros...

denphone 08-02-2012 12:43
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378113)
The FA has a image and moral problem with allowing someone facing trial for racist abuse captaining the side. It would have been too awkward to have him as captain at the Euros...
Yes very true Damien but what about innocent until being found guilty.

Pog66 08-02-2012 12:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378090)
. Oh and Tax dodging English managers!

:p:
nope - not guilty in a court of law!

MalteseFalcon 08-02-2012 12:53
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Plus the fact that our FA made such an uproar over Sepp Blatter's comments on racism being settled with a handshake that letting John Terry stay as captain would have made us look like hypocrites. I couldn't care less if John Terry is a racist or not, as long as he can use his brain cell to make sure that if he has to make comments such as the one he is accused of saying in private where no-one can hear him say it, and therefore there cannot be such an uproar over it in the future.

I've always rated him as a bloody good defender and a leader on the pitch, it is a shame that he has such a dodgy moral compass that seems to permeate throughout the whole of the game of football nowadays. Now it seems to be about money, how many women they can sleep with in a night and how big their bank balance is.

Whatever happened to playing football because it was a boyhood dream to play for your favouritge football club? Apart from Best, I can't think of a single player in the game between the 1870's and 1980's that behaved like the animals of today's game.

adzii_nufc 08-02-2012 13:32
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378113)
The FA has a image and moral problem with allowing someone facing trial for racist abuse captaining the side. It would have been too awkward to have him as captain at the Euros...
That's not what I was getting at, The point I tried to make is that if anyone was going to take the armband away it should have been the England Manager who has experience as a top level footballer playing for a top team in the world. has countless footballing honours and is not just simply a businessman from FCUK that did good business for Manchester City.

The FA doesn't have an image and moral problem with allowing someone that was facing trial for Tax evasion to manage a club competing in their league though do they? Funny that when he's hinted to be the next England manager.

One rule for one and one rule for another.

If the England manager cant speak his mind, Good luck finding a world class manager that will take that crap

Quote:
Whatever happened to playing football because it was a boyhood dream to play for your favouritge football club? Apart from Best, I can't think of a single player in the game between the 1870's and 1980's that behaved like the animals of today's game.
You can only count today's footballers that are there for the game and not the money in 2 digits. Anything think Samuel Eto'o is playing in Russia because he wants too? Or because he enjoys picking up his £200,000+ a week pay. A lot of Footballer's tell fans what they want to hear when in reality its far from the Truth. Michael Owen a while back : I am enjoying playing for Newcastle United, Delighted to be here and will give it my all and score goals... Why lie out your arse Michael? You must think we are all blind or something.

Damien 08-02-2012 13:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378140)
That's not what I was getting at, The point I tried to make is that if anyone was going to take the armband away it should have been the England Manager who has experience as a top level footballer playing for a top team in the world. has countless footballing honours and is not just simply a businessman from FCUK that did good business for Manchester City.
But he didn't take away the armband and showed no hint of doing so. The FA, with an eye towards the reputation of the national team and our credibility when demanding racism is tackled by FIFA.

Quote:
The FA doesn't have an image and moral problem with allowing someone that was facing trial for Tax evasion to manage a club competing in their league though do they? Funny that when he's hinted to be the next England manager.

One rule for one and one rule for another.
What a ridiculous comparison! I really don't know where to start? They haven't forbidden Terry from playing in their league either, Funny that. What Harry Redknapp's trial did do was a place a massive question mark over his eligibly to be the next England manager. The stripping of the captaincy has nothing to do with the league.

adzii_nufc 08-02-2012 14:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
So the right way to do it is to remove someone's captaincy before proven guilty to protect the dismal reputation of the England National Team? To make the FA look big.. The same FA that spat their dummy's out and cried corruption when we didn't get the World Cup. We'll both have different opinions on the decision as is clear but I guess I just dont have any respect for the English F.A any more so I'm showing Bias to John Terry with this case and my argument is invalid.

Quote:
one cannot be punished until it is official and the court - a non-sport court, a civil court - had made a decision to decide if John Terry has done what he is accused of
Can't be any worse than having Mike Bassett I suppose.. Or McClaren for that matter.

Damien 08-02-2012 14:50
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378157)
So the right way to do it is to remove someone's captaincy before proven guilty to protect the dismal reputation of the England National Team?
Yes. This is not uncommon. People step down from certain duties whilst awaiting trial for a crime which would, if found guilty, seriously impact on your ability to do that job.

Quote:
We'll both have different opinions on the decision as is clear but I guess I just dont have any respect for the English F.A any more so I'm showing Bias to John Terry with this case and my argument is invalid.
Your argument is invalid based on it's merits alone. Nothing to do with any bias.

TheDaddy 08-02-2012 17:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378113)
The FA has a image and moral problem with allowing someone facing trial for racist abuse captaining the side. It would have been too awkward to have him as captain at the Euros...
Exactly, imagine if God forbid we actually manage to win the thing and the next week he's found guilty, tainted or what.

denphone 08-02-2012 19:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/footbal...457#TWEET74736

Quote:
Fabio Capello has resigned as England manager, the Football Association has confirmed.

Capello resigned after a meeting with FA chairman David Bernstein and general secretary Alex Horne at Wembley.

An FA statement read: "The Football Association can confirm that Fabio Capello has today resigned as England manager."

On Monday, the Italian publicly challenged the FA's decision to strip John Terry of the captaincy.

The FA's statement continued: "The discussions focused on the FA Board's decision to remove the England team captaincy from John Terry, and Fabio Capello's response through an Italian broadcast interview.

"In a meeting for over an hour, Fabio's resignation was accepted and he will leave the post of England manager with immediate effect."

Bernstein said: "I would like to stress that during [the] meeting and throughout his time as England manager, Fabio has conducted himself in an extremely professional manner.

"We have accepted Fabio's resignation, agreeing this is the right decision. We would like to thank Fabio for his work with the England team and wish him every success in the future."

colin25 08-02-2012 19:27
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Never liked him...so as a Scot i thought he was perfect for England :D

Russ 08-02-2012 19:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Anyone fancy placing a bet on how long before Rednapp gets sacked as England manager?

denphone 08-02-2012 19:42
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35378317)
Anyone fancy placing a bet on how long before Rednapp gets sacked as England manager?
Having the England job is like a poisoned chalice.

Julian 08-02-2012 19:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378308)
More to follow
More resignations, I hope so. What would be good would be if a few players actually stood up to the FA and refused to play for England.

colin25 08-02-2012 19:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378321)
Having the England job is like a poisoned chalice.
Maybe he will get a tax break?

Damien 08-02-2012 19:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Exciting news eh! Who will take over....

denphone 08-02-2012 19:54
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378332)
Exciting news eh! Who will take over....
Anybody who can win us a tournament.:)

thenry 08-02-2012 20:10
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
So static boring Fabio doesn't believe in racists being punished? Didnt he take away after he Terry was having affairs? Or was that forced upon him

Stewart to take over? or better yet good ol'd 'Arry.

adzii_nufc 08-02-2012 20:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Good for Capello, Nice to see everyone happy at the prospect of crashing out in the group stages. If Harry Redknapp knows what's good for him he'll stay well away from these idiot 'executives'

Either way I'd be a nervous Spurs fan about now. 3rd place.. flying high then this happens

Damien 08-02-2012 20:18
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378344)
Good for Capello, Nice to see everyone happy at the prospect of crashing out in the group stages. If Harry Redknapp knows what's good for him he'll stay well away from these idiot 'executives'
No one is happy with the prospect of crashing out of the group stage, people are excited about the activity surrounding the team.

Shadow Demon UK 08-02-2012 20:19
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
The question is, will the FA let Redknapp take the job part time until the summer? I can't see him leaving Spurs in the position they are in now. And then will he agree to dropping Terry from the squad? Which is clearly what they want.

The FA have made a fine mess of things, which is not suprising. At least England have a scapegoat in place already...

Cobbydaler 08-02-2012 20:20
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35378341)
So static boring Fabio doesn't believe in racists being punished? Didnt he take away the capaincy after he Terry was having affairs?

Stewart to take over? or better yet good ol'd 'Arry.
Not the same scenario, criminal charge (innocent until proven guilty) != marital infidelity.

Or, to be cynical, marital infidelity didn't occur in the run up to the Euros...

thenry 08-02-2012 20:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35378351)
The question is, will the FA let Redknapp take the job part time until the summer? I can't see him leaving Spurs in the position they are in now. And then will he agree to dropping Terry from the squad? Which is clearly what they want.

The FA have made a fine mess of things, which is not suprising. At least England have a scapegoat in place already...
If Levy doesnt sign the extra few signings he Harry wants don't be surprised if he accepts the job plus spurs will not be as wealthy when the stadium build goes ahead


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35378352)
Not the sme scenario, criminal charge (innocent until proven guilty) != marital infidelity.

Or, to be cynical, marital infidelity didn't occur in the run up to the Euros...
Hes already been somewhat found guilty

denphone 08-02-2012 20:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35378359)
If Levy doesnt sign the extra few signings he Harry wants don't be surprised if he accepts the job plus spurs will not be as wealthy when the stadium build goes ahead




Hes already been somewhat found guilty
You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

thenry 08-02-2012 20:39
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Still in a position he shouldnt be in.

adzii_nufc 08-02-2012 20:49
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Yes it does seem he's already been found guilty by a number of people and the media. Then they'll kiss his arse if they were wrong. Cheesy headlines like 'we always believed in you'

Not really bothered about the next nationality of the new gaffer. We had this hype over an English Manager last time and look where that led.

Damien 08-02-2012 20:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean you carry on as if the charge never existing in the first place. Chris Huhne resigned from the cabinet this week after being charged with perverting the course of justice. It's just not practical to carry on with being England Captain when your facing a racism charge, it's obvious. His role involves being the 'face' of the England team for the next few months after all.

Derek 08-02-2012 21:42
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Those Italians sure love deserting sinking ships... :D

TheDaddy 08-02-2012 21:43
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378344)
Good for Capello
Yes, an Italian deserting a sinking ship, who'd have thought it...

Russ 08-02-2012 23:07
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Word is Spurs are looking at Brendan Rogers :(

TheDaddy 09-02-2012 00:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35378420)
Word is Spurs are looking at Brendan Rogers :(
as what, coach or assistant to Jose?

Russ 09-02-2012 06:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
His boss.

Russ 09-02-2012 06:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
His boss.

denphone 09-02-2012 08:22
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/england/16956369

Quote:
Fabio Capello: Players and pundits react to resignation



•Striker Wayne Rooney: "Gutted Capello has quit. Good guy and top coach. Got to be English to replace him. Harry Redknapp for me."

•Defender Rio Ferdinand: "So Capello resigns....what now...."

•Midfielder Jack Wilshere: "People have their own judgement on Capello but for a young player who was given the chance to play for my country at such a young age he has shown great belief and trust in me so I can only thank him."

•Right-back Kyle Walker: "Gutted to see Fabio Capello go, he put a lot of trust in me and gave me my first cap. just want to say a big thanks really.
"
•Full-back Glen Johnson: "Sad news to see Capello step down. Good man and a Good manager."

•Ex-England striker Michael Owen: "Don't know if was just me but it never felt right in the first place knowing the England manager was heading off after the Euros regardless."

Russ 09-02-2012 08:57
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Redknapp will not bring success to England. In 3 or 4 years there'll be calls for him to be sacked. Taylor, Hoddle, McClaren, all English managers heralded as saviours but 1966 was still the last trophy.

Hom3r 09-02-2012 10:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Jose Mourinho will be the next boss of THFC

Damien 09-02-2012 10:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35378498)
Jose Mourinho will be the next boss of THFC
Maybe, be a bit unlike him however.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35378470)
Redknapp will not bring success to England. In 3 or 4 years there'll be calls for him to be sacked. Taylor, Hoddle, McClaren, all English managers heralded as saviours but 1966 was still the last trophy.
I think he would get the team playing well and motivated. We won't win but as long as we reach a quarter final or semi final people will be happy.

denphone 09-02-2012 10:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35378498)
Jose Mourinho will be the next boss of THFC
Highly unlikely l would say Hom3r.:)

richard1960 09-02-2012 10:28
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I wish the politicians would stay away from commentating on these sorts of things and get on with their job,i can picture Mr Cameron now programme in hand waiting for the match to start.:erm:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16960731

I thought all of that had stopped when one Mr "cool britannia"Blair went.:(

denphone 09-02-2012 10:31
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35378519)
I wish the politicians would stay away from commentating on these sorts of things and get on with their job,i can picture Mr Cameron now programme in hand waiting for the match to start.:erm:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16960731

I thought all of that had stopped when one Mr "cool britannia"Blair went.:(
l think hoping for politicians to keep their mouths shut is like hoping England will win the World Cup Richard.

richard1960 09-02-2012 10:35
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378524)
l think hoping for politicians to keep their mouths shut is like hoping England will win the World Cup Richard.
:D:D:D Denphone yes! it just makes them look daft,doubt if David Cameron has much of an opinion but felt obliged to say something.

Reminds me of when Mr Blair wanted to meet the ashes winning cricket team for a photo shoot,behind the scene they were taking the micky as it was obvious he knew nothing about the sport,why oh why do politicians do it to themselves.:confused:

Saaf_laandon_mo 09-02-2012 10:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
The new England manager has been named....

Well done Rosie 47!

richard1960 09-02-2012 10:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 35378534)
The new England manager has been named....

Well done Rosie 47!
They would be "Barking" to make that appointment mo,groan.:erm::erm::D

Damien 09-02-2012 10:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
David Cameron would have been asked it and said something that doesn't cause any issues.

TheDaddy 09-02-2012 11:19
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35378455)
His boss.
Can't see Mourinho being any one's number 2 but then I can't see Brendan Rodgers being Spurs manager for a long time either

denphone 09-02-2012 11:23
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35378581)
Can't see Mourinho being any one's number 2 but then I can't see Brendan Rodgers being Spurs manager for a long time either
Well according to Sky this morning Brendan Rogers has just signed a new 3 and a half year contract with Swansea.:)

MalteseFalcon 09-02-2012 11:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
If Redknapp does leave Spurs to go for the England job, I have a feeling that they will bomb in the league. I mean, look at how crap they were before Redknapp walked out of Portsmouth and went to them. Much as I am anti Spurs, they will end up regretting it if they let Harry go to England until after the Euros.

Then bring in Jose Mourinho, although my aunt will be gutted if he does. She loves Jose but hates Spurs (she's a Chelski fan).

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 11:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378090)
D-day for Capello and many calling for his sacking. Capello should make a statement himself and simply stand down citing the fact he is the manager of the England National Team and apparently has no control regarding the management of the team itself. Of course I'm talking about The F.A stripping JT of his captaincy. I'm assuming next they wont allow him to be picked for the European Championship this year.

Of course the worst part of this is half the people couldn't care less whether or not he is a racist or guilty. They just simply don't like Terry and make it seem like they give a crap when really they would love nothing more than what is currently happening. Gordon Taylor and Co are doing an excellent job into making this a public circus where the masses can voice abuse at him day in day out. Terry, Barton etc. Its just a bandwagon people cant help but jump on :td:

This can only lead to the inevitable failure at Euro 2012 with all the negativity going on. I'm sure Rio could lead us this year! Shame he looks as average as a n inform Titus Bramble. If Terry's Guilty then thats that. If he's not I see the media kissing his arse like they never doubted him.

This is football now.

Scandals
Racism
Diving
Hilarious refereeing
A corrupt Governing body in FIFA and a Frenchman that hates the English as President of Uefa... Oh and Tax dodging English managers!

:p:
Just another year in Footbal! :td:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378140)
That's not what I was getting at, The point I tried to make is that if anyone was going to take the armband away it should have been the England Manager who has experience as a top level footballer playing for a top team in the world. has countless footballing honours and is not just simply a businessman from FCUK that did good business for Manchester City.

The FA doesn't have an image and moral problem with allowing someone that was facing trial for Tax evasion to manage a club competing in their league though do they? Funny that when he's hinted to be the next England manager.

One rule for one and one rule for another.

If the England manager cant speak his mind, Good luck finding a world class manager that will take that crap



You can only count today's footballers that are there for the game and not the money in 2 digits. Anything think Samuel Eto'o is playing in Russia because he wants too? Or because he enjoys picking up his £200,000+ a week pay. A lot of Footballer's tell fans what they want to hear when in reality its far from the Truth. Michael Owen a while back : I am enjoying playing for Newcastle United, Delighted to be here and will give it my all and score goals... Why lie out your arse Michael? You must think we are all blind or something.
Most people are in Football for the money (both gaining and losing it)!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378308)
There goes our Euro 2012 chances!!! :td:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35378317)
Anyone fancy placing a bet on how long before Rednapp gets sacked as England manager?
After Euro 2012? :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378321)
Having the England job is like a poisoned chalice.
Since 1966! :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378344)
Good for Capello, Nice to see everyone happy at the prospect of crashing out in the group stages. If Harry Redknapp knows what's good for him he'll stay well away from these idiot 'executives'

Either way I'd be a nervous Spurs fan about now. 3rd place.. flying high then this happens
Redknapp will stay until at least the end of the season!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378348)
No one is happy with the prospect of crashing out of the group stage, people are excited about the activity surrounding the team.
Can we support Ireland in that case! :D

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35378470)
Redknapp will not bring success to England. In 3 or 4 years there'll be calls for him to be sacked. Taylor, Hoddle, McClaren, all English managers heralded as saviours but 1966 was still the last trophy.
Even less that 3/4 Years!!! :mad:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35378498)
Jose Mourinho will be the next boss of THFC
No, it will be Manchester City!

denphone 09-02-2012 11:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35378607)
No, it will be Manchester City!
Have you inside information on that.

Pog66 09-02-2012 11:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Ex-England striker Michael Owen: "Don't know if was just me but it never felt right in the first place knowing the England manager was heading off after the Euros regardless."
which really means "..it never felt right in the first place knowing the England manager would not be pick me even if I was the last person standing"

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 11:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378624)
Have you inside information on that.
No that is my guess, since they have a lot of money and they can afford his wages!

denphone 09-02-2012 12:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35378631)
No that is my guess, since they have a lot of money and they can afford his wages!
And so can at least 8 clubs in Europe.

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 12:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378635)
And so can at least 8 clubs in Europe.
True!

What are those 8 clubs?

denphone 09-02-2012 12:10
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35378637)
True!

What are those 8 clubs?
Chelsea
Man Utd
Man City
Liverpool
AC Milan
Inter Milan
PSG
Barcelona
One or Two Russian clubs so there 10 possibles.

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 12:12
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378644)
Chelsea
Man Utd
Man City
Liverpool
AC Milan
Inter Milan
PSG
Barcelona
One or Two Russian clubs so there 10 possibles.
Thanks for telling me! :)

denphone 09-02-2012 12:13
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35378645)
Thanks for telling me! :)
Thats okay as a little knowledge can go a long way.:)

Hom3r 09-02-2012 12:30
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
JMs contact ends this season and wants to move back to England.

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 12:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35378662)
JMs contact ends this season and wants to move back to England.
Will he become England manager?

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Stuart Pearce is the current England Manager for now, will he lead us to Euro 2012?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Pearce#England

denphone 09-02-2012 12:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35378666)
Will he become England manager?

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Stuart Pearce is the current England Manager for now, will he lead us to Euro 2012?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Pearce#England
The answer to the first question is no and the answer to the second one is probably not.

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 12:39
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35378670)
The answer to the first question is no and the answer to the second one is probably not.
Lets give Stuart Pearce a chance!

denphone 09-02-2012 12:41
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35378674)
Lets give Stuart Pearce a chance!
He is not my choice to be perfectly honest.

Damien 09-02-2012 12:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35378662)
JMs contact ends this season and wants to move back to England.
Unlikely he will go to Spurs however, City and Chelsea would be at the head of that pack.

Alan Fry 09-02-2012 13:04
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378684)
Unlikely he will go to Spurs however, City and Chelsea would be at the head of that pack.
I would say Man City!

TheDaddy 09-02-2012 13:12
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35378591)
If Redknapp does leave Spurs to go for the England job, I have a feeling that they will bomb in the league. I mean, look at how crap they were before Redknapp walked out of Portsmouth and went to them. Much as I am anti Spurs, they will end up regretting it if they let Harry go to England until after the Euros.

Then bring in Jose Mourinho, although my aunt will be gutted if he does. She loves Jose but hates Spurs (she's a Chelski fan).
All depends on who they get in as to whether they bomb obviously, if they get another Gross or Ramos they're screwed but a Jose or Hiddink might even make them better.

Pog66 09-02-2012 13:12
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
if City win the Premiership under Mancini I can't see them jettisoning him - however, if they don't.....

adzii_nufc 09-02-2012 17:32
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Steve Kean for England!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35378704)
All depends on who they get in as to whether they bomb obviously, if they get another Gross or Ramos they're screwed but a Jose or Hiddink might even make them better.
You say ' a Jose' as if there's plenty of them... One can only wish :p:

Some people seem to think Pardew will take over at Spurs. I doubt it but Harry Redknapp wasn't world class when he first took over.


Nice to see there's not just a few of us that think the F.A stuck their noses in too far and that manager's should manage the club and not some
executive.

Quote:
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has defended Fabio Capello's stand over John Terry, insisting the Italian should have had the final say over whether the Chelsea defender remained as England captain or not. He told Arsenal Player: "When the decision came out from the FA, I said that the choice of captain is down to the manager. You (the manager) pick your team, you choose your captain. I did not expect such an extreme situation but it looks like there was already some turbulence there and that was just the final straw."

Damien 09-02-2012 19:15
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
It's not a club, it's the international side. If Terry wasn't going to step aside and Capello wasn't going to take action then the FA needed to do something. It's not uncommon for people in sensitive or public positions to step aside pending the result of a criminal trail.

We could not go into Euro 2012 with the captain awaiting trial for racially abusing another player, it would be disruptive, there was reportedly large discontent amongst the England players, and if we somehow fluked our way to the trophy there would be the risk of someone who was about to be convicted for racial abuse being forever associated with the imagery of the title. It just wasn't a realistic prospect.

Dave42 09-02-2012 19:21
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35379003)
It's not a club, it's the international side. If Terry wasn't going to step aside and Capello wasn't going to take action then the FA needed to do something. It's not uncommon for people in sensitive or public positions to step aside pending the result of a criminal trail.

We could not go into Euro 2012 with the captain awaiting trial for racially abusing another player, it would be disruptive, there was reportedly large discontent amongst the England players, and if we somehow fluked our way to the trophy there would be the risk of someone who was about to be convicted for racial abuse being forever associated with the imagery of the title. It just wasn't a realistic prospect.
couldn't agree more :clap::clap::clap:

Arthurgray50@blu 09-02-2012 22:05
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
My strong belief is that Rednapp will stay at Spurs, Harry owes a great deal to Tottenham for standing by him, don't forget Spurs knew about his financial problems and gave him a job.

He said when he got acquitted that he owes a lot to Daniel Levy, and l believe he will stand by that loyalty. The fans at Tottenham love him, and don't forget that Harry is not a well man.

He has got something wrong with his ticker as well and recently this year he was in hospital.

I think England need to go for a young manager, and not someone of Harry's age anyway.

Russ 09-02-2012 22:08
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35378499)
I think he would get the team playing well and motivated. We won't win but as long as we reach a quarter final or semi final people will be happy.
Really? England have been farting their way out of tournaments at the quarters and semis for decades. If you're suggesting England fans will be satisfied with 'more of the same' then hmmmm...

Damien 09-02-2012 22:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35379126)
Really? England have been farting their way out of tournaments at the quarters and semis for decades. If you're suggesting England fans will be satisfied with 'more of the same' then hmmmm...
It depends how they play. If we play well, make it difficult then that would be ok. We shouldn't have gone out in the 2nd round in the World Cup and we didn't even qualify prior to that.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35379125)
My strong belief is that Rednapp will stay at Spurs, Harry owes a great deal to Tottenham for standing by him, don't forget Spurs knew about his financial problems and gave him a job.

He said when he got acquitted that he owes a lot to Daniel Levy, and l believe he will stand by that loyalty. The fans at Tottenham love him, and don't forget that Harry is not a well man.

He has got something wrong with his ticker as well and recently this year he was in hospital.

I think England need to go for a young manager, and not someone of Harry's age anyway.
That Harry is not well surely makes it more likely to go for the 'part time' job and his age just means this is his last chance.

adzii_nufc 10-02-2012 00:25
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Why Shouldn't we have gone out in the second round? The teams in the group stages we should be beating by 3 or 4 goals. We were absolutely crap and The Germans had a far more organised and superior team in every way. Us fans did not deserve it but the players sure as hell did.

As with Russ, I don't see what massive difference Harry Redknapp is going to make. Unfortunately Major tournaments are once every 2 years so the chance to win a trophy is already unlikely :(

Alan Fry 10-02-2012 12:14
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35378797)
Steve Kean for England!

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You say ' a Jose' as if there's plenty of them... One can only wish :p:

Some people seem to think Pardew will take over at Spurs. I doubt it but Harry Redknapp wasn't world class when he first took over.


Nice to see there's not just a few of us that think the F.A stuck their noses in too far and that manager's should manage the club and not some
executive.
Remember, Fabio Capello made the decision to strip the Capitaincy of John Terry last time round over the Wayne Bridge saga!

---------- Post added at 12:12 ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35379003)
It's not a club, it's the international side. If Terry wasn't going to step aside and Capello wasn't going to take action then the FA needed to do something. It's not uncommon for people in sensitive or public positions to step aside pending the result of a criminal trail.

We could not go into Euro 2012 with the captain awaiting trial for racially abusing another player, it would be disruptive, there was reportedly large discontent amongst the England players, and if we somehow fluked our way to the trophy there would be the risk of someone who was about to be convicted for racial abuse being forever associated with the imagery of the title. It just wasn't a realistic prospect.
I do not think that Rio Ferdinand would be keen on going to a tournement to someone who insulted his brother, this is all a big mess and I would no like to be John Terry right now!

---------- Post added at 12:14 ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35379125)
My strong belief is that Rednapp will stay at Spurs, Harry owes a great deal to Tottenham for standing by him, don't forget Spurs knew about his financial problems and gave him a job.

He said when he got acquitted that he owes a lot to Daniel Levy, and l believe he will stand by that loyalty. The fans at Tottenham love him, and don't forget that Harry is not a well man.

He has got something wrong with his ticker as well and recently this year he was in hospital.

I think England need to go for a young manager, and not someone of Harry's age anyway.
Since Stuart Pearce knows the team (as assistant manager) and also manages the England Under-21 and GB Olympic football teams, he would be a good person for the job until at least after Euro 2012!

adzii_nufc 10-02-2012 13:31
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Let's get all hyped up about an Englishman again then call for his head when we crash out of the euro's in the pouring rain whilst he's standing with an umbrella..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/02/37.jpg

Alan Fry 10-02-2012 13:44
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35379384)
Let's get all hyped up about an Englishman again then call for his head when we crash out of the euro's in the pouring rain whilst he's standing with an umbrella..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/02/37.jpg
The dream of England winning a major tournement is further away than ever! :(

denphone 10-02-2012 14:27
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35379394)
The dream of England winning a major tournement is further away than ever! :(
On that l agree with Alan.:D

colin25 10-02-2012 15:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
One of my colleagues mentioned that on twitter, after the trial..it said
"we now know what harry was doing during the transfer window...he was buying a jury" :D

adzii_nufc 10-02-2012 20:08
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35379452)
One of my colleagues mentioned that on twitter, after the trial..it said
"we now know what harry was doing during the transfer window...he was buying a jury" :D
:eeek:

denphone 11-02-2012 05:18
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.sportinglife.com/football...d.html&BID=165

Quote:
Harry Redknapp intends to see out the remainder of the season with Tottenham.

Redknapp is the overwhelming favourite to replace Fabio Capello as England boss and it appears only a matter of time before he receives an official approach from the Football Association.

However, with Stuart Pearce confirmed as caretaker boss for this month's friendly against Holland, there is no immediate rush to make an appointment.

And with no games to play until two weeks after the Premier League season has finished, there must be a chance Redknapp will be allowed to remain with Spurs to try to engineer a successful conclusion to a stellar campaign so far.

"I hope so," said Redknapp. I'd be very surprised if I didn't finish the season with Tottenham, that's for sure.

denphone 11-02-2012 09:24
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16990214

Quote:
The new England manager should forget about winning Euro 2012 and look ahead to the World Cup in 2014, according to former captain Alan Shearer.

Fabio Capello resigned from his post this week, less than four months before the start of the tournament.

Shearer has said he wants Tottenham's Harry Redknapp to replace Capello.

"Just because Capello's gone and a new one [is set to come in], it's not all rosy. England will probably not win the Euros," he told BBC's Football Focus.

gazzae 11-02-2012 12:46
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Stay classy Suarez...

Shadow Demon UK 11-02-2012 12:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Suarez - definition of a ****

colin25 11-02-2012 12:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I blame dalglish..if he had agreed it was wrong and not kept making excuses..it would have been stopped in its tracks

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And I think they should stop the handshakes at start...if the players want to shake hands..let them do it in the tunnel voluntarily...no need to put a show on for the cameras

Damien 11-02-2012 13:46
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Evra willing to move on despite being the victim. Suarez is a nasty bit of work but I agree Dalglish has been egging all this on as well.

colin25 11-02-2012 13:51
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
This is a first..I cheered when Rooney scored...didn't mean to, but Liverpool has lost my neutral support..now feeling sad :D

Julian 11-02-2012 14:03
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
At least if ManU win other ManU fans than Russ will post here, unlike after the cup game. ;)

gazzae 11-02-2012 14:26
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Liverpool fans, what exactly does Henderson bring to your team?

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Nice assist Rio....

denphone 11-02-2012 15:06
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35380000)
Liverpool fans, what exactly does Henderson bring to your team?

---------- Post added at 14:26 ---------- Previous post was at 14:11 ----------

Nice assist Rio....
Nothing at the moment.

Uncle Peter 11-02-2012 15:07
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Manages to carry-off his fake tan. That's about it at the moment.

thenry 11-02-2012 15:10
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
:LOL:

The guys a mug and the funny thing is its going to destroy the club not aid it.

denphone 11-02-2012 16:49
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Well its that legendary Arsenal hero coming to Arsenal's rescue at Sunderland.

thenry 11-02-2012 16:57
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Did someone call :D


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