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It means that something good is on the way ;) |
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Hopefully they'll just bill us £x/m not £x - package discount, loyalty discount, R in the month discount, etc.
I still don't know what I'll be paying next month! The number on the new contract made no sense (as it didn't appear to include discounts, and I think they've changed anyway). |
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Yeah the bills are being looked at, as we know customers find them confusing at times. |
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Mine was installed today ! :D
Just a few things they need to resolve now. 1. 3rd tuner !!!!!! 2. Series links from the Web please ! 3. "Upcoming" should allow you to filter by channel because sometimes you have shows that are repeated every day on multiple channels which makes it a sod to find the new stuff. |
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Third tuner coming in March as an update. I would love to know in the future when TiVo (Cisco box) will become the PVR box of choice for VM, 2 years?
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Hi everyone.
I'm new here but have been watching this forum for a while. Dont know why i haven't joined before. The reason ive posted is because ive just had an engineer out to fix my V+ box again (which is why i want TIVO). He's told me not to bother getting TIVO for a least six months because they're going to release a new box that they're working on at the moment. He said the boxes that are out now are "exprimental ones" so they can iron out the flaws. He even said that thats why they haven't turned one of the tuners on because they don't know if it will work on all the boxes. I dont know if he was talking rubbish or not but he was talking a lot of technical mubo jumbo. |
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Yeah thats what i thought. I was gob smacked to be honest.
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The reason Tivo failed in this country is that it was badly marketed. Whether that was a deliberate act on the part of Sky, I'll leave up to you to decide. |
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Sky+ was the first integrated PVR in this country, a year after TiVo was first released. |
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TiVO v1 in the UK was:
*Expensive *Badly marketed *Screwed over by Sky Everyone I demonstrated one to thought it was fantastic. If once they'd found out that Sky were trying to do them over they'd released a twin tuner DVB-T version it would have been a different story. TiVO could have bern more popular in the UK than it is in the states. To be honest, if they released a Freeview or Freesat TiVO I'd pay £400 for it in a heartbeat. |
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when will you have to pay for the TIVO box the £149 upfront or on your next bill?
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I've already paid for mine last Thursday.... even though I don't get my hands on mine until Saturday 5th March |
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I can assure you it's nonsense ;)
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I hope you can assure me. That engineer has really put me off getting TIVO.
He kept saying things like "if you get it now you'll be stuck with this box and you know what VM are like they won't swap it out unless its broken. Your better off waiting mate". I know it sounds like total rubbish (even writing it now i can see how it sounds) but he was so matter-of-factly (if thats a word). I have to say I don't get taken in by many people, I do not suffer fools gladly believe me. So if he was lying he was a flipping good one. Also I don't know what he would gain from lying to me, in fact he would lose from what he told me about getting more money installing TIVO boxes than he would installing VM boxes. I'm hoping someone on here is in the know and can say for sure it's total poo as i'm a vip50 customer and want the priority install. (It took me three weeks to convince the missus to get it) |
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Personally, I'd be inclined to call CS and make a complaint about such an unprofessional member of staff.
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I can assure you that it's all rubbish. Not all techs are like him :) |
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Counting the days down now , seeing the screenshots and hearing the feedback has fired me up even more now.
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Thanks for the replys. You've put my mind at rest :)
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Just wondering, has VM announced the pricing structure for TiVo yet?? I'm on VIP20 at the minute and thinking of going to VIP50, but am interested to see what the price would be for such packages with a TiVo?!
Apologies if this has been asked before, but hey - there are 196 pages so far on this forum!! I'd be here for a few days catching up!! Many thanks in advance!! |
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Tivo is £3 a month an you need XL tv I think.
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Cheers - much appreciated!!
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In the absence of a definitive statement from VM confusion reigns. I firmly believe we are being used as a proving ground for a new product. All this business about top 1000 and only to those who had a unique number and then it's everybody who's registered and then it's just about the whole customer base. VIP customers have been treated very shabbily. The box is obviously not ready for release into the wild. The existing V+ is a far more appropriate unit for the vast majority of customers. Three well proven tuners and fully functioning VOD. I have had two V+ boxes since they came out and they give me all that most people will ever need. If you want uTube get it on your PC.:mad: |
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Seems funny you saying all these things fixer man I'm sure your always reading the TiVo community forum , all boxes have bugs the V+ still does , Sky HD has problems at the minute with software.
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Good luck with yours when ever you get it and I shall look forward to reading your posts. I mean that sincerely!:):):) |
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Put it this way... there is nothing "bug" wise that is wrong with TiVo... sure there may be little things, but on the whole it works brilliantly for me.
Customers are not being used as a test bed, that's what us staff where for :D The main reason for a stage by stage roll-out was to mature the metadata and ensure everything was working as it should, ready for customers. I don't care what ANYONE say's about it or me... even say I'm staff "so you would say that". I love my TiVo :romance: |
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Doesn't worry me mate STB software is an evolving thing anyway.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Zem...embedded#at=82
I'm sure this has been posted somewhere before however I feel it's something people on this thread would probably like to watch. |
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I find the interface clunky at best. The user experience is very un-polished. Why on earth are some UI screens HD quality but then it will switch to SD screens for things like Series Link recording options or settings or that sort of things (during which the current channel playback stops, not just video but audio as well). The search feature is unimpressive. The mini-guide is under-powered. And there are so few options to customise your interface or experience! Only one list of favourite channels? And not even reorderin of channels? Dude! I can't believe that a product that has been in the making for such a long time by such a large company manages to offer such a poor experience... I won't even mention the fact that the ethernet connection is disabled (MAJOR feature loss), which means no local network streaming; that remote recording from the online tv guide fails every time... Paying £3 per month for the priviledge of going back 4 years in time? I really feel like cancelling the whole thing. I love new tech, but I hate getting disappointed with it that quickly! I hate "new" tech that's anything but... |
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Can you cancel TiVo within 28days? Can you cancel the £3 and use it as a v+ yet?
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The're are a few people on her saying that the V+ does everything they want, "just use your PC if you want to do anything more". That's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's my prerogative to want a TiVo. Please stop insinuating we're idiots for wanting it. Here endeth the rant :) |
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I'm an idiot and i still want one.
No call zilch so far for me. Still even if im last man standing i still want it |
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HD/SD screens: VM are working with TiVo to make all screens HD, but like the US Premier HD, some are currently SD. Video Window: Sky have blocked VM from showing their channels within the TiVo Guide, petty Sky, but there you are. Search Feature: If you find this unimpressive, then you shouldn't have TiVo. Mini guide: underpowered? What does that mean???? Favourite Channels: how many favourites do you want?? Re-ordering channels: VM don't want this. Streaming: This is something that will come a little later.. more details will be released by VM. Remote Record: Works perfect for most. are you setting your region in the Online Guide correctly? |
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Things like this have been promised before and never delivered. My big worry about any VM kit is you basically get it as it comes and have absolutely no guarantee any of this other stuff will ever appear. We were tantalised years ago by the reactivation of the ethernet port, the USB, and sata connection on the TVdrive, needless to say non of those ever happened. Again we were told VM were working on HDD upgrade solutions.. never happened. I've come to learn when people promise you vapour ware, don't expect to get it any time soon. And certainly don't buy a piece of hardware based on promised features. At the moment i'm not even 100% convinced 3rd tuner will arrive any time soon. |
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I can assure you that the 3rd Tuner is definately coming and won't be too far away! |
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But I thought it already had one.......... Are you looking out your windows for the poor little fellow to welcome it home :D |
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I know I'm janking your chain. :D |
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Can anyone who has a TiVo tell me what the power consumption is ? Thanks
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Regards John. I would think the box would draw 80% of that power so about 28 watts. In comparison the v+ is 40 watts |
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It may be reduced in future software releases. There are some bits of hardware that can be turned off when not in use. |
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:angel:Ahh... I just recieved an email from them. Its early april 2011
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Again, call me picky, but pretty much ALL these features have been available to me for the last 4 years on my Freeview box, through a mix of the firmware and a plugin written (and made available for free) by just a couple of guys! |
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Were you a VM customer before you got a TiVo? If so what box did you have? |
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This is true, User Profiles will be added later this year. |
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If you want a Tivo then that's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's his prerogative to not want a TiVo (or at least be underwhelmed by the experience to date). Please stop insinuating he is idiots for not wanting it. |
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Everyone can have an opinion, it's just that you should be prepared to be questioned on it. Generally how forums work ;) |
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Let TIVO know what features you would like to see, ok so it's meant for US TIVO users but does that matter.
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At no stage during the self proclaimed "rant" did he question the post he was replying to - he was complaining that a negative post was putting a downer on him wanting one. While he gave his permission for an opposing opinion (glad he had his permission) he felt he was called an idiot because someone posted negative comment about it. And to quote the post I was talking about (with the changing of V+ with Tivo)... Quote:
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I don't see how the search is unimpressive, the results pop up almost instantly as you type. I haven't had any show take more than 4 characters to appear on the first page of results. Yes it may not be right at the top, but that's what the down arrow is for. The box learns what you like so your most popular searches will start to appear at the top. I don't see why re-ordering of channels is such an issue, it's not something I've ever felt the need to do. I'm sure the ethernet ports will be enabled as the Premier boxes in the US can stream recordings to other boxes or you can copy content. Everything is already in the code and you can see clues in some of the system info pages. There's no reason for VM not to implement it. Remember many of the features are being added at request of VM. VM do not do any coding as this is done by TiVo themselves, VM just license the code. If you're happy with Freeview and your Topfield (twice the price of the TiVo and is basically a PC in a nice box) then stick with it. I'll admit I do find the SD a pain myself and the box can be sluggish at times, but it will improve. It's not on general release as yet, but is pretty much good to go imho. A. ---------- Post added at 16:57 ---------- Previous post was at 16:54 ---------- Quote:
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What do people think of the SD upscaling in the TiVo?
Personally this is the only thing that lets another wise great bit of kit down. The upscaling of SD was much sharper on the V+. I'm guessing the TiVo menus were drawn in 720 also as even these look slightly softer in 1080i. For best results I've gone back to 720p output except for the odd movie which I'll go back to 1080i for. Isn't most UK HDTV broadcast in 720 anyhow? A. |
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No all UK HD is 1080i.
The menus look pin sharp in 1080 to me but then I have a full HD set - it really depends on your TV how well it looks, which is why you have both options. If the video resolution menu worked as it should you could select 576i and have the TV do the upscaling for you (although I find the Tivo's one to be fine). Hopefully that'll be fixed in an update. |
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He started his post by saying "Don't get sucked it" and ends it with "If you want youtube use your PC :mad:". That's not stating his opinion that's him telling me what I should be doing. I'm not saying he should wont one, I don't care if he wants one or not, thats up to him. |
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My TV is Full HD, it's Panasonics latest, the TX-P42V20B. Switching between the two 720p does looks sharper for SD shows to me.
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too many questions and not enough answers ...
lots of peeps hoping for certain features but no known intention to implement by VM or not Lots of peeps expecting whats available on the US tivo to be on the VM tivo as standard but either isnt working or no known implementation of it by VM lots expecting the ethernet port to allow streaming but no one knows if that will or wont happen parts of the GUI has been worked on and improved over an S1 tivo and some areas of the GUI are still the old S1 tivo screens (or extremely similar) and no word of intention from VM or is it staying as is ... anybodys guess I can actually understand some people saying or calling it a beta with so many things that are either unfinished or implementation unannounced ... asking/expecting customers to pay for a half finished product is somewhat risky if they then dont get the things they wanted implemented cant wait for that phone call just so i can say no thanks not interested in a product that is not fully working |
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If TiVo have no plans to change the older SD screens to HD then I don't think VM will be able to convince them otherwise. |
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Interesting set of recent posts regarding the pro's and con's of TIVO but I notice that no one has mentioned one of the major attractions, for me at least, the 1TB drive.
Yes V+ is decent and will do more or less what TIVO does as a basic PVR. On their own the apps and additional software features of TIVO aren't worth £149 BUT the extra 920Gb of space over a V+ box must be worth considering. Yes you could buy a 1TB hard drive and upgrade the V+, but you'd be invalidating your warranty and you still be paying at best £60-ish for the hard drive itself. So to me the software on its own isn't worth £149 and the extra space on the hard drive on its own isn't worth £149 but the combination of the two and the generally positive (not unanimous of course) reaction to the first release of TIVO makes this a decent and worthwhile upgrade for me. I'll make up my own mind regarding the quality of the product once I have TIVO but thanks to those who have shared their views both positive and negative. PB |
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Had one of my SA V+ boxes changed today was faulty really noisy and kept rebooting. Replaced with a Samsung so I'm happy now then other SA V+ box will to replaced with TIVO when I get mine.
I asked VM engineer about the TIVO boxes he told me to wait 6 months before getting one cause of teething problems etc. But said it will all be updated via software updates, not a new box or whatever. So I think i'll get one near launch, going on that. Just have to put up with a few teething problems, I've put up with the SA V+ boxes so I should be ok. He's got a TIVO box said it's rubbish at the moment loads of problems, stopping recording programmes couple of minutes before they end, turning channels over on it's own etc. He said he didn't do why they just didn't keep the current boxes and just put bigger HDDs in them. |
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Do the newer V+ drives take Sata or IDE hard drives? I know the older V+ boxes were IDE. Think you will struggle to find large capacity IDE drives and a 1tb sata can be got for less than 40 notes Also V+ boxes are never yours so really at a push you could be causing criminal damage lol . Didnt think there was a warranty as they break VM replace |
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Apolgies if this question is been answered 15 pages ago but the issues of having to watch your recordings while being copied off, will this ever be resolved or is that it?
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Can i just say can we all get a grip as we do not know what is going to become active and not. Also the staff are not able to say either so can we all just get a grip and stop this childish bickering. For ffffffffffffffffff sake.
Yes and i am ready for the replies to this and the slating? |
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Yes to both of the above:D:D:D:D:D
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Hi, This is to Digital Fanatic or anyone who can help out.
I got a phone call tonight while watching football. It was automated but I only heard it talk about delivery. I entered the prize draw for the free TiVO and chose them to phone me up in the evening. My question is that will that have been virgin media. I also ordered reciner sofas from Argos before and it could have been them but Im worried that me not saying nowt to them because I couldnt hear them will take me out of the TiVO draw. |
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