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Digital Fanatic 22-02-2011 19:04

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35179959)
I get confused to what i am :p

On a a side note VM need to do a hellova lot better with the itemising of their bills... flicking ridiculous and is all all over the place...

The bills are changing soon ;)

jtaylor06 22-02-2011 19:10

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35179980)
The bills are changing soon ;)

Love it when you put a cheeky wink at the end of things!
It means that something good is on the way ;)

devilincarnate 22-02-2011 19:16

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35179980)
The bills are changing soon ;)

Does that mean it is just going to say what you owe and nothing else:D:D:D

TonyHoyle 22-02-2011 19:29

Re: TiVo
 
Hopefully they'll just bill us £x/m not £x - package discount, loyalty discount, R in the month discount, etc.

I still don't know what I'll be paying next month! The number on the new contract made no sense (as it didn't appear to include discounts, and I think they've changed anyway).

Digital Fanatic 22-02-2011 19:46

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35179986)
Love it when you put a cheeky wink at the end of things!
It means that something good is on the way ;)

:)

Yeah the bills are being looked at, as we know customers find them confusing at times.

cozmic1988 22-02-2011 21:19

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by one2escape (Post 35179781)
Do you pay up front or is the charge added to your next bill?

Up front :(

devilincarnate 22-02-2011 21:22

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cozmic1988 (Post 35180071)
Up front :(

Yes but the call charges are for the previous period.

ntl.wotcha 22-02-2011 21:31

Re: TiVo
 
Mine was installed today ! :D

Just a few things they need to resolve now.

1. 3rd tuner !!!!!!
2. Series links from the Web please !
3. "Upcoming" should allow you to filter by channel because sometimes you have shows that are repeated every day on multiple channels which makes it a sod to find the new stuff.

mhatter67 22-02-2011 21:42

Re: TiVo
 
Third tuner coming in March as an update. I would love to know in the future when TiVo (Cisco box) will become the PVR box of choice for VM, 2 years?

Lone Star 22-02-2011 21:46

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha (Post 35180076)
Mine was installed today ! :D

Just a few things they need to resolve now.

1. 3rd tuner !!!!!!
2. Series links from the Web please !
3. "Upcoming" should allow you to filter by channel because sometimes you have shows that are repeated every day on multiple channels which makes it a sod to find the new stuff.

Agree with all that, but I must also add the facility to transfer to DVD or VCR whilst watching another programme. That could be the real deal-breaker for me (or, more accurately, for my wife).

loeb 22-02-2011 22:05

Re: TiVo
 
Hi everyone.
I'm new here but have been watching this forum for a while. Dont know why i haven't joined before.
The reason ive posted is because ive just had an engineer out to fix my V+ box again (which is why i want TIVO). He's told me not to bother getting TIVO for a least six months because they're going to release a new box that they're working on at the moment.
He said the boxes that are out now are "exprimental ones" so they can iron out the flaws. He even said that thats why they haven't turned one of the tuners on because they don't know if it will work on all the boxes.
I dont know if he was talking rubbish or not but he was talking a lot of technical mubo jumbo.

muppetman11 22-02-2011 22:06

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loeb (Post 35180111)
Hi everyone.
I'm new here but have been watching this forum for a while. Dont know why i haven't joined before.
The reason ive posted is because ive just had an engineer out to fix my V+ box again (which is why i want TIVO). He's told me not to bother getting TIVO for a least six months because they're going to release a new box that they're working on at the moment.
He said the boxes that are out now are "exprimental ones" so they can iron out the flaws. He even said that thats why they haven't turned one of the tuners on because they don't know if it will work on all the boxes.
I dont know if he was talking rubbish or not but he was talking a lot of technical mubo jumbo.

Sounds a pile of poo to me.

Digital Fanatic 22-02-2011 22:07

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loeb (Post 35180111)
Hi everyone.
I'm new here but have been watching this forum for a while. Dont know why i haven't joined before.
The reason ive posted is because ive just had an engineer out to fix my V+ box again (which is why i want TIVO). He's told me not to bother getting TIVO for a least six months because they're going to release a new box that they're working on at the moment.
He said the boxes that are out now are "exprimental ones" so they can iron out the flaws. He even said that thats why they haven't turned one of the tuners on because they don't know if it will work on all the boxes.
I dont know if he was talking rubbish or not but he was talking a lot of technical mubo jumbo.

He was talking rubbish.........

:welcome: to the forum though :wavey:

loeb 22-02-2011 22:10

Re: TiVo
 
Yeah thats what i thought. I was gob smacked to be honest.

Skie 22-02-2011 22:50

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180011)
:)

Yeah the bills are being looked at, as we know customers find them confusing at times.

Its not just customers, even VM staff can have a hard time figuring out what on earth india has managed to do. This time it was a £10 late payment fee, despite being on direct debit. :confused:

We once got a bright red "FINAL REMINDER" from Telewest, for -£0.07. Yeah, they owed us 7p and really wanted to tell us urgently.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180119)
He was talking rubbish.........

But they are planning on rolling out Tivo software to some of the other, non dedicated STB's arent they? He may have gotten his wires crossed.

Stuart 23-02-2011 15:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldavies83 (Post 35177137)
And look how well it worked for them in this country - hardly a raging success was it (despite the quality of the product).

That's what happens when the company you are relying on to market and manage the product in one country (in our case BSkyB) is developing a competitor.

The reason Tivo failed in this country is that it was badly marketed. Whether that was a deliberate act on the part of Sky, I'll leave up to you to decide.

clinteastman 23-02-2011 15:38

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35180690)
That's what happens when the company you are relying on to market and manage the product in one country (in our case BSkyB) is developing a competitor.

The reason Tivo failed in this country is that it was badly marketed. Whether that was a deliberate act on the part of Sky, I'll leave up to you to decide.

It's also worth pointing out the old TiVo was a 2 box solution, a bit like Google TV, not very handy (even I couldn't be bothered with that) where VM TiVo is just the one box.

pauldavies83 23-02-2011 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35180690)
That's what happens when the company you are relying on to market and manage the product in one country (in our case BSkyB) is developing a competitor.

The reason Tivo failed in this country is that it was badly marketed. Whether that was a deliberate act on the part of Sky, I'll leave up to you to decide.

So it was nothing to do with its expense, or desirability then? It's all just Sky's fault?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35180693)
It's also worth pointing out the old TiVo was a 2 box solution, a bit like Google TV, not very handy (even I couldn't be bothered with that) where VM TiVo is just the one box.

So was it's competitor at the time (a VCR).

Sky+ was the first integrated PVR in this country, a year after TiVo was first released.

ShadowTD 23-02-2011 16:16

Re: TiVo
 
TiVO v1 in the UK was:

*Expensive
*Badly marketed
*Screwed over by Sky

Everyone I demonstrated one to thought it was fantastic. If once they'd found out that Sky were trying to do them over they'd released a twin tuner DVB-T version it would have been a different story. TiVO could have bern more popular in the UK than it is in the states.

To be honest, if they released a Freeview or Freesat TiVO I'd pay £400 for it in a heartbeat.

borrissey 23-02-2011 16:19

Re: TiVo
 
when will you have to pay for the TIVO box the £149 upfront or on your next bill?

Cozzy 23-02-2011 16:21

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35180716)
when will you have to pay for the TIVO box the £149 upfront or on your next bill?

so far apart from those who 'won a freebie' its all been pay up front on the phone by card at time of ordering :(

borrissey 23-02-2011 16:23

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35180718)
so far apart from those who 'won a freebie' its all been pay up front on the phone by card at time of ordering :(

I see cheers, thought it might go on your next bill.

PhlangePhace 23-02-2011 18:18

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35180716)
when will you have to pay for the TIVO box the £149 upfront or on your next bill?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35180718)
so far apart from those who 'won a freebie' its all been pay up front on the phone by card at time of ordering :(

In fact it's as soon as you book your installation, in advance (which is what Cozzy has already impled)....

I've already paid for mine last Thursday.... even though I don't get my hands on mine until Saturday 5th March

fixerman 23-02-2011 18:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loeb (Post 35180111)
Hi everyone.
I'm new here but have been watching this forum for a while. Dont know why i haven't joined before.
The reason ive posted is because ive just had an engineer out to fix my V+ box again (which is why i want TIVO). He's told me not to bother getting TIVO for a least six months because they're going to release a new box that they're working on at the moment.
He said the boxes that are out now are "exprimental ones" so they can iron out the flaws. He even said that thats why they haven't turned one of the tuners on because they don't know if it will work on all the boxes.
I dont know if he was talking rubbish or not but he was talking a lot of technical mubo jumbo.

Based on events so far it would not surprise me one bit if all of that is true.;)

Andy C 23-02-2011 18:50

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I can assure you it's nonsense ;)


A.

loeb 23-02-2011 19:52

Re: TiVo
 
I hope you can assure me. That engineer has really put me off getting TIVO.
He kept saying things like "if you get it now you'll be stuck with this box and you know what VM are like they won't swap it out unless its broken. Your better off waiting mate".
I know it sounds like total rubbish (even writing it now i can see how it sounds) but he was so matter-of-factly (if thats a word). I have to say I don't get taken in by many people, I do not suffer fools gladly believe me. So if he was lying he was a flipping good one.
Also I don't know what he would gain from lying to me, in fact he would lose from what he told me about getting more money installing TIVO boxes than he would installing VM boxes.
I'm hoping someone on here is in the know and can say for sure it's total poo as i'm a vip50 customer and want the priority install. (It took me three weeks to convince the missus to get it)

Lew 23-02-2011 19:55

Re: TiVo
 
Personally, I'd be inclined to call CS and make a complaint about such an unprofessional member of staff.

Digital Fanatic 23-02-2011 20:10

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loeb (Post 35180847)
I hope you can assure me. That engineer has really put me off getting TIVO.
He kept saying things like "if you get it now you'll be stuck with this box and you know what VM are like they won't swap it out unless its broken. Your better off waiting mate".
I know it sounds like total rubbish (even writing it now i can see how it sounds) but he was so matter-of-factly (if thats a word). I have to say I don't get taken in by many people, I do not suffer fools gladly believe me. So if he was lying he was a flipping good one.
Also I don't know what he would gain from lying to me, in fact he would lose from what he told me about getting more money installing TIVO boxes than he would installing VM boxes.
I'm hoping someone on here is in the know and can say for sure it's total poo as i'm a vip50 customer and want the priority install. (It took me three weeks to convince the missus to get it)

Sorry you've had a poor customer experience with this tech. Sounds like he was very ill informed regarding TiVo.

I can assure you that it's all rubbish. Not all techs are like him :)

muppetman11 23-02-2011 20:12

Re: TiVo
 
Counting the days down now , seeing the screenshots and hearing the feedback has fired me up even more now.

loeb 23-02-2011 20:22

Re: TiVo
 
Thanks for the replys. You've put my mind at rest :)

James79 23-02-2011 20:30

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Just wondering, has VM announced the pricing structure for TiVo yet?? I'm on VIP20 at the minute and thinking of going to VIP50, but am interested to see what the price would be for such packages with a TiVo?!

Apologies if this has been asked before, but hey - there are 196 pages so far on this forum!! I'd be here for a few days catching up!!

Many thanks in advance!!

Marcus125 23-02-2011 20:36

Re: TiVo
 
Tivo is £3 a month an you need XL tv I think.

Stephen 23-02-2011 20:39

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James79 (Post 35180877)
Just wondering, has VM announced the pricing structure for TiVo yet?? I'm on VIP20 at the minute and thinking of going to VIP50, but am interested to see what the price would be for such packages with a TiVo?!

Apologies if this has been asked before, but hey - there are 196 pages so far on this forum!! I'd be here for a few days catching up!!

Many thanks in advance!!

Not sure of the exact install cost but I think it will be the same on VIP50 as it is on VIP20 and it's only an extra £3 per month on top of your package.

James79 23-02-2011 20:45

Re: TiVo
 
Cheers - much appreciated!!

fixerman 23-02-2011 20:48

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35180865)
Counting the days down now , seeing the screenshots and hearing the feedback has fired me up even more now.

Don't be sucked in. Look at the evidence! The "evidence" is very negative in reality.

In the absence of a definitive statement from VM confusion reigns. I firmly believe we are being used as a proving ground for a new product. All this business about top 1000 and only to those who had a unique number and then it's everybody who's registered and then it's just about the whole customer base. VIP customers have been treated very shabbily.

The box is obviously not ready for release into the wild. The existing V+ is a far more appropriate unit for the vast majority of customers. Three well proven tuners and fully functioning VOD. I have had two V+ boxes since they came out and they give me all that most people will ever need.

If you want uTube get it on your PC.:mad:

muppetman11 23-02-2011 20:59

Re: TiVo
 
Seems funny you saying all these things fixer man I'm sure your always reading the TiVo community forum , all boxes have bugs the V+ still does , Sky HD has problems at the minute with software.

fixerman 23-02-2011 21:13

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35180900)
Seems funny you saying all these things fixer man I'm sure your always reading the TiVo community forum , all boxes have bugs the V+ still does , Sky HD has problems at the minute with software.

I can honestly say that I have no issues with my two V+ boxes and as for Sky, well the least said the better, except for VOD, what VOD?

muppetman11 23-02-2011 21:15

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35180911)
I can honestly say that I have no issues with my two V+ boxes and as for Sky, well the least said the better, except for VOD, what VOD?

To be honest mate I have no issues with my V+ but you ask around there are still little bugs , TIVO will be working hard to iron all it's bugs out for the major push.

fixerman 23-02-2011 21:30

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35180912)
To be honest mate I have no issues with my V+ but you ask around there are still little bugs , TIVO will be working hard to iron all it's bugs out for the major push.

I have been following you muppetman on this forum and I know how keen you are on getting the Tivo. I am very interested too but not until it is in a position to fulfill all the original promises.

Good luck with yours when ever you get it and I shall look forward to reading your posts. I mean that sincerely!:):):)

muppetman11 23-02-2011 21:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35180927)
I have been following you muppetman on this forum and I know how keen you are on getting the Tivo. I am very interested too but not until it is in a position to fulfill all the original promises.

Good luck with yours when ever you get it and I shall look forward to reading your posts. I mean that sincerely!:):):)

I agree with you , I've always liked new gadgets and am prepared to work through the bugs, I have used TIVO whilst in the States and was hooked on the UI , I also like the HD epg which makes the V+ epg look dated now.

Digital Fanatic 23-02-2011 22:11

Re: TiVo
 
Put it this way... there is nothing "bug" wise that is wrong with TiVo... sure there may be little things, but on the whole it works brilliantly for me.

Customers are not being used as a test bed, that's what us staff where for :D

The main reason for a stage by stage roll-out was to mature the metadata and ensure everything was working as it should, ready for customers.

I don't care what ANYONE say's about it or me... even say I'm staff "so you would say that".

I love my TiVo :romance:

muppetman11 23-02-2011 22:13

Re: TiVo
 
Doesn't worry me mate STB software is an evolving thing anyway.

Chad 23-02-2011 22:40

Re: TiVo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Zem...embedded#at=82

I'm sure this has been posted somewhere before however I feel it's something people on this thread would probably like to watch.

Wabiloo 24-02-2011 09:55

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35180954)
Put it this way... there is nothing "bug" wise that is wrong with TiVo... sure there may be little things, but on the whole it works brilliantly for me!

Well, it doesn't for me. I've had it for a bit under a week now and am very disappointed. Sure, I'll get used to it, but I really feel it's a major step back in functionality compared to my Freeview Topfield (mentioned in a post further up this thread). Bugs, I accept and I can live with whilst they are getting ironed out. Lack of feature on the other hand...

I find the interface clunky at best. The user experience is very un-polished. Why on earth are some UI screens HD quality but then it will switch to SD screens for things like Series Link recording options or settings or that sort of things (during which the current channel playback stops, not just video but audio as well). The search feature is unimpressive. The mini-guide is under-powered. And there are so few options to customise your interface or experience! Only one list of favourite channels? And not even reorderin of channels? Dude!
I can't believe that a product that has been in the making for such a long time by such a large company manages to offer such a poor experience...
I won't even mention the fact that the ethernet connection is disabled (MAJOR feature loss), which means no local network streaming; that remote recording from the online tv guide fails every time...

Paying £3 per month for the priviledge of going back 4 years in time? I really feel like cancelling the whole thing. I love new tech, but I hate getting disappointed with it that quickly! I hate "new" tech that's anything but...

jb66 24-02-2011 10:03

Re: TiVo
 
Can you cancel TiVo within 28days? Can you cancel the £3 and use it as a v+ yet?

clinteastman 24-02-2011 10:06

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35180895)
Don't be sucked in. Look at the evidence! The "evidence" is very negative in reality.

In the absence of a definitive statement from VM confusion reigns. I firmly believe we are being used as a proving ground for a new product. All this business about top 1000 and only to those who had a unique number and then it's everybody who's registered and then it's just about the whole customer base. VIP customers have been treated very shabbily.

The box is obviously not ready for release into the wild. The existing V+ is a far more appropriate unit for the vast majority of customers. Three well proven tuners and fully functioning VOD. I have had two V+ boxes since they came out and they give me all that most people will ever need.

If you want uTube get it on your PC.:mad:

Just because you don't want one there is no need to try and put a downer on it for people that do. And to say that V+ has no problems because yours doesn't is very narrow minded. For instance my V+ is awful (and that's both SAs I have had).

The're are a few people on her saying that the V+ does everything they want, "just use your PC if you want to do anything more". That's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's my prerogative to want a TiVo. Please stop insinuating we're idiots for wanting it.

Here endeth the rant :)

dazgwinn 24-02-2011 10:31

Re: TiVo
 
I'm an idiot and i still want one.
No call zilch so far for me.
Still even if im last man standing i still want it

Digital Fanatic 24-02-2011 11:09

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181118)
Well, it doesn't for me. I've had it for a bit under a week now and am very disappointed. Sure, I'll get used to it, but I really feel it's a major step back in functionality compared to my Freeview Topfield (mentioned in a post further up this thread). Bugs, I accept and I can live with whilst they are getting ironed out. Lack of feature on the other hand...

I find the interface clunky at best. The user experience is very un-polished. Why on earth are some UI screens HD quality but then it will switch to SD screens for things like Series Link recording options or settings or that sort of things (during which the current channel playback stops, not just video but audio as well). The search feature is unimpressive. The mini-guide is under-powered. And there are so few options to customise your interface or experience! Only one list of favourite channels? And not even reorderin of channels? Dude!
I can't believe that a product that has been in the making for such a long time by such a large company manages to offer such a poor experience...
I won't even mention the fact that the ethernet connection is disabled (MAJOR feature loss), which means no local network streaming; that remote recording from the online tv guide fails every time...

Paying £3 per month for the priviledge of going back 4 years in time? I really feel like cancelling the whole thing. I love new tech, but I hate getting disappointed with it that quickly! I hate "new" tech that's anything but...

I disagree with everything in your post, but if that's your experience...

HD/SD screens:
VM are working with TiVo to make all screens HD, but like the US Premier HD, some are currently SD.

Video Window: Sky have blocked VM from showing their channels within the TiVo Guide, petty Sky, but there you are.

Search Feature: If you find this unimpressive, then you shouldn't have TiVo.

Mini guide: underpowered? What does that mean????

Favourite Channels: how many favourites do you want??

Re-ordering channels: VM don't want this.

Streaming: This is something that will come a little later.. more details will be released by VM.

Remote Record: Works perfect for most. are you setting your region in the Online Guide correctly?

Rattus 24-02-2011 12:11

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35181150)

Streaming: This is something that will come a little later.. more details will be released by VM.

See here's the problem that alot of staff don't get.

Things like this have been promised before and never delivered. My big worry about any VM kit is you basically get it as it comes and have absolutely no guarantee any of this other stuff will ever appear.

We were tantalised years ago by the reactivation of the ethernet port, the USB, and sata connection on the TVdrive, needless to say non of those ever happened. Again we were told VM were working on HDD upgrade solutions.. never happened.

I've come to learn when people promise you vapour ware, don't expect to get it any time soon. And certainly don't buy a piece of hardware based on promised features.

At the moment i'm not even 100% convinced 3rd tuner will arrive any time soon.

Stephen 24-02-2011 12:16

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35181188)
See here's the problem that alot of staff don't get.

Things like this have been promised before and never delivered. My big worry about any VM kit is you basically get it as it comes and have absolutely no guarantee any of this other stuff will ever appear.

We were tantalised years ago by the reactivation of the ethernet port, the USB, and sata connection on the TVdrive, needless to say non of those ever happened. Again we were told VM were working on HDD upgrade solutions.. never happened.

I've come to learn when people promise you vapour ware, don't expect to get it any time soon. And certainly don't buy a piece of hardware based on promised features.

At the moment i'm not even 100% convinced 3rd tuner will arrive any time soon.

Remember though this is TiVo. If it has a feature currently in the USA we will eventually be getting it too. Due to the way that VM want things done some software code needs to be created or re-written to be able to work over here and, IE red button as they dont have that over there.

I can assure you that the 3rd Tuner is definately coming and won't be too far away!

Big-Ted 24-02-2011 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35181193)
Remember though this is TiVo. If it has a feature currently in the USA we will eventually be getting it too. Due to the way that VM want things done some software code needs to be created or re-written to be able to work over here and, IE red button as they dont have that over there.

I can assure you that the 3rd Tuner is definitely coming and won't be too far away!


But I thought it already had one..........

Are you looking out your windows for the poor little fellow to welcome it home :D

Stephen 24-02-2011 12:43

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big-Ted (Post 35181210)
But I thought it already had one..........

Are you looking out your windows for the poor little fellow to welcome it home :D

The hardware for the 3rd tuner is in the STB however the TiVo software can't use it yet, so we are just waiting on the software update to enable it.

Big-Ted 24-02-2011 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35181214)
The hardware for the 3rd tuner is in the STB however the TiVo software can't use it yet, so we are just waiting on the software update to enable it.




I know I'm janking your chain. :D

Digital Fanatic 24-02-2011 12:53

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big-Ted (Post 35181219)
I know I'm janking your chain. :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/10.gif

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Yeah, it will be even better once we have the 3rd tuner enabled. :)

alwaysabear 24-02-2011 13:38

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Can anyone who has a TiVo tell me what the power consumption is ? Thanks

Digital Fanatic 24-02-2011 13:42

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35181255)
Can anyone who has a TiVo tell me what the power consumption is ? Thanks

Not sure.. i know it's supposed to be a low energy unit, like to Cisco V-HD. Maybe Spiderplant knows? :)

alwaysabear 24-02-2011 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35181258)
Not sure.. i know it's supposed to be a low energy unit, like to Cisco V-HD. Maybe Spiderplant knows? :)

The V HD has it written on the box, 18watts. I expect The Tivo will be a bit more than that.

pythagoras 24-02-2011 13:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35181262)
The V HD has it written on the box, 18watts. I expect The Tivo will be a bit more than that.

I can tell you what it cant draw more than and thats 36 watts. The power adaptor is 12v 3 amps. Cant get to tivo box atm.

Regards

John.

I would think the box would draw 80% of that power so about 28 watts. In comparison the v+ is 40 watts

alwaysabear 24-02-2011 14:03

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pythagoras (Post 35181266)
I can tell you what it cant draw more than and thats 36 watts. The power adaptor is 12v 3 amps. Cant get to tivo box atm.

Regards

John.

Thanks for the reply.

spiderplant 24-02-2011 14:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35181262)
The V HD has it written on the box, 18watts. I expect The Tivo will be a bit more than that.

Good guess! It's 20W.

It may be reduced in future software releases. There are some bits of hardware that can be turned off when not in use.

fixerman 24-02-2011 14:55

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35181188)
See here's the problem that alot of staff don't get.

I've come to learn when people promise you vapour ware, don't expect to get it any time soon. And certainly don't buy a piece of hardware based on promised features.

At the moment i'm not even 100% convinced 3rd tuner will arrive any time soon.

You are singing my song Rattus!:dunce::banghead:

alwaysabear 24-02-2011 15:08

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35181294)
Good guess! It's 20W.

It may be reduced in future software releases. There are some bits of hardware that can be turned off when not in use.

That is very good compared with the V HD box, as I guess the hard drive would be running all the time in the TiVo.:D

vmedia 24-02-2011 15:37

Re: TiVo
 
:angel:Ahh... I just recieved an email from them. Its early april 2011

Wabiloo 24-02-2011 15:52

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35181150)

HD/SD screens:
VM are working with TiVo to make all screens HD, but like the US Premier HD, some are currently SD.

So, that's a probably-maybe-one-day-if-VM feel-like-it...

Quote:

Search Feature: If you find this unimpressive, then you shouldn't have TiVo.
I'm coming to a point where I agree with you there... Clearly that feature was much noise about nothing. When you use it, it's clunky (no support for T-9 style typing of the title, you have to navigate the on-screen keyboard, which takes forever) and there is far too much weight to people's names in the result screen. You pretty much to have to type the entire title of a programme to see it appear in the top-10 results.

Quote:

Mini guide: underpowered? What does that mean????
No access to detailed info for programmes currently running on other channels without first having to switch to that channel.

Quote:

Favourite Channels: how many favourites do you want??
At least one per member of my family. We watch different channels and like different programmes, and myself, I have different viewing habits depending on day and time of day

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Re-ordering channels: VM don't want this.
My point entirely... And the justification for it (other than just-because-we-said-so)?

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Streaming: This is something that will come a little later.. more details will be released by VM.
Another probably-maybe-one-day-if-VM feel-like-it

Quote:

Remote Record: Works perfect for most. are you setting your region in the Online Guide correctly?
Absolutely!

Again, call me picky, but pretty much ALL these features have been available to me for the last 4 years on my Freeview box, through a mix of the firmware and a plugin written (and made available for free) by just a couple of guys!

clinteastman 24-02-2011 16:12

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181341)
At least one per member of my family. We watch different channels and like different programmes, and myself, I have different viewing habits depending on day and time of day

TiVo are currently working on multipul user profiles at the moment. Part of the TiVo - VM deal if feature parity so we will be getting it too.

Were you a VM customer before you got a TiVo? If so what box did you have?

Digital Fanatic 24-02-2011 16:32

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35181349)
TiVo are currently working on multipul user profiles at the moment. Part of the TiVo - VM deal if feature parity so we will be getting it too.

Were you a VM customer before you got a TiVo? If so what box did you have?


This is true, User Profiles will be added later this year.

dsmuk 24-02-2011 16:57

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35181123)
Just because you don't want one there is no need to try and put a downer on it for people that do. And to say that V+ has no problems because yours doesn't is very narrow minded. For instance my V+ is awful (and that's both SAs I have had).

The're are a few people on her saying that the V+ does everything they want, "just use your PC if you want to do anything more". That's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's my prerogative to want a TiVo. Please stop insinuating we're idiots for wanting it.

Here endeth the rant :)

So if he had posted how much he loved it that would have been OK? He has one, has (I assume) paid for it and gave his opinion.

If you want a Tivo then that's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's his prerogative to not want a TiVo (or at least be underwhelmed by the experience to date). Please stop insinuating he is idiots for not wanting it.

Digital Fanatic 24-02-2011 17:05

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmuk (Post 35181379)
So if he had posted how much he loved it that would have been OK? He has one, has (I assume) paid for it and gave his opinion.

If you want a Tivo then that's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's his prerogative to not want a TiVo (or at least be underwhelmed by the experience to date). Please stop insinuating he is idiots for not wanting it.

So only negative comments are allowed? :confused:

Everyone can have an opinion, it's just that you should be prepared to be questioned on it. Generally how forums work ;)

Peter_ 24-02-2011 17:06

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181341)
So, that's a probably-maybe-one-day-if-VM feel-like-it...


I'm coming to a point where I agree with you there... Clearly that feature was much noise about nothing. When you use it, it's clunky (no support for T-9 style typing of the title, you have to navigate the on-screen keyboard, which takes forever) and there is far too much weight to people's names in the result screen. You pretty much to have to type the entire title of a programme to see it appear in the top-10 results.


No access to detailed info for programmes currently running on other channels without first having to switch to that channel.


At least one per member of my family. We watch different channels and like different programmes, and myself, I have different viewing habits depending on day and time of day


My point entirely... And the justification for it (other than just-because-we-said-so)?


Another probably-maybe-one-day-if-VM feel-like-it


Absolutely!

Again, call me picky, but pretty much ALL these features have been available to me for the last 4 years on my Freeview box, through a mix of the firmware and a plugin written (and made available for free) by just a couple of guys!

Well send it back as you are within your 28 days and the reason is that it is not what you expected.

muppetman11 24-02-2011 17:08

Re: TiVo
 
Let TIVO know what features you would like to see, ok so it's meant for US TIVO users but does that matter.

http://research.tivo.com/suggestions/2web519.htm

Peter_ 24-02-2011 17:10

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35181389)
Let TIVO know what features you would like to see, ok so it's meant for US TIVO users but does that matter.

http://research.tivo.com/suggestions/2web519.htm

Yes because you will probably never see them on a box built specifically for Virginmedia.

muppetman11 24-02-2011 17:12

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35181392)
Yes because you will probably never see them on a box built specifically for Virginmedia.

Well the VM TIVO box has a lot of the premiere features , epg wise anyway.

Peter_ 24-02-2011 17:15

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35181393)
Well the VM TIVO box has a lot of the premiere features , epg wise anyway.

You will get the features Virginmedia want in their version of the box, maybe after the full rollout they may consider asking customers if they want more advanced features but equally they may not, it also depends on the contract with TiVo.

muppetman11 24-02-2011 17:16

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35181397)
You will get the features Virginmedia want in their version of the box, maybe after the full rollout they may consider asking customers if they want more advanced features but equally they may not, it also depends on the contract with TiVo.

They will utilise as many features as possible and if its available in the US theres a chance of it coming over here , cant do any harm anyway.

Peter_ 24-02-2011 17:20

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35181400)
They will utilise as many features as possible and if its available in the US theres a chance of it coming over here , cant do any harm anyway.

All you can do is wait until the full rollout with the 3rd tuner and see what they have installed on the box, they can always add more to the interface if the is demand but only time will tell.

dsmuk 24-02-2011 17:47

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35181387)
So only negative comments are allowed? :confused:

Everyone can have an opinion, it's just that you should be prepared to be questioned on it. Generally how forums work ;)

Fully aware of how forums work thanks.

At no stage during the self proclaimed "rant" did he question the post he was replying to - he was complaining that a negative post was putting a downer on him wanting one. While he gave his permission for an opposing opinion (glad he had his permission) he felt he was called an idiot because someone posted negative comment about it.

And to quote the post I was talking about (with the changing of V+ with Tivo)...

Quote:

... To say that Tivo has no problems because yours doesn't is very narrow minded.
You can't claim an opinion to be narrow minded while at the same time demonstrating the same narrow minded position, well you can but your look an idiot.

Will add the obligatory smilies to demonstrate jesting ;) :D - am just not sure which one to use.

Andy C 24-02-2011 17:57

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181118)
I find the interface clunky at best. The user experience is very un-polished. Why on earth are some UI screens HD quality but then it will switch to SD screens for things like Series Link recording options or settings or that sort of things (during which the current channel playback stops, not just video but audio as well). The search feature is unimpressive. The mini-guide is under-powered. And there are so few options to customise your interface or experience! Only one list of favourite channels? And not even reorderin of channels? Dude!
I can't believe that a product that has been in the making for such a long time by such a large company manages to offer such a poor experience...
I won't even mention the fact that the ethernet connection is disabled (MAJOR feature loss), which means no local network streaming; that remote recording from the online tv guide fails every time...

I don't know what box you've been using, but the UI is pretty good and a vast improvement over the likes of V+. Yes there are still SD screens, but this is because the software is being re-written for VM using the US Premier code as a base and that's where the SD screens come from. We should see more HD pages added with new updates as the year goes on. The mini-screen stops because it was never incorporated into the SD UI. Some Series Link pages are in HD, depending how you access them.

I don't see how the search is unimpressive, the results pop up almost instantly as you type. I haven't had any show take more than 4 characters to appear on the first page of results. Yes it may not be right at the top, but that's what the down arrow is for. The box learns what you like so your most popular searches will start to appear at the top.

I don't see why re-ordering of channels is such an issue, it's not something I've ever felt the need to do.

I'm sure the ethernet ports will be enabled as the Premier boxes in the US can stream recordings to other boxes or you can copy content. Everything is already in the code and you can see clues in some of the system info pages. There's no reason for VM not to implement it.

Remember many of the features are being added at request of VM. VM do not do any coding as this is done by TiVo themselves, VM just license the code. If you're happy with Freeview and your Topfield (twice the price of the TiVo and is basically a PC in a nice box) then stick with it.

I'll admit I do find the SD a pain myself and the box can be sluggish at times, but it will improve. It's not on general release as yet, but is pretty much good to go imho.


A.

---------- Post added at 16:57 ---------- Previous post was at 16:54 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattus (Post 35181188)
At the moment i'm not even 100% convinced 3rd tuner will arrive any time soon.

This is definitely coming very soon and I'm sure it will be vastly better implemented than on the V+ ;)


A.

Rattus 24-02-2011 18:03

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35181397)
You will get the features Virginmedia want in their version of the box,

That is the key problem i have. That's been the problem with the V+ box, it's actually a much better box than it appears, but it's had all the good stuff turned off, because VM didn't want to have things like ethernet streaming to support.

Andy C 24-02-2011 18:19

Re: TiVo
 
What do people think of the SD upscaling in the TiVo?

Personally this is the only thing that lets another wise great bit of kit down. The upscaling of SD was much sharper on the V+. I'm guessing the TiVo menus were drawn in 720 also as even these look slightly softer in 1080i. For best results I've gone back to 720p output except for the odd movie which I'll go back to 1080i for.

Isn't most UK HDTV broadcast in 720 anyhow?


A.

TonyHoyle 24-02-2011 18:37

Re: TiVo
 
No all UK HD is 1080i.

The menus look pin sharp in 1080 to me but then I have a full HD set - it really depends on your TV how well it looks, which is why you have both options.

If the video resolution menu worked as it should you could select 576i and have the TV do the upscaling for you (although I find the Tivo's one to be fine). Hopefully that'll be fixed in an update.

clinteastman 24-02-2011 18:41

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmuk (Post 35181379)
So if he had posted how much he loved it that would have been OK? He has one, has (I assume) paid for it and gave his opinion.

If you want a Tivo then that's great for you and that's your prerogative but it's his prerogative to not want a TiVo (or at least be underwhelmed by the experience to date). Please stop insinuating he is idiots for not wanting it.

I think you need to go back and read the post I was replying to, he "paid for" what?

He started his post by saying "Don't get sucked it" and ends it with "If you want youtube use your PC :mad:". That's not stating his opinion that's him telling me what I should be doing.

I'm not saying he should wont one, I don't care if he wants one or not, thats up to him.

Andy C 24-02-2011 18:43

Re: TiVo
 
My TV is Full HD, it's Panasonics latest, the TX-P42V20B. Switching between the two 720p does looks sharper for SD shows to me.

Wabiloo 24-02-2011 18:46

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy C (Post 35181418)
I don't know what box you've been using, but the UI is pretty good and a vast improvement over the likes of V+.

I don't doubt that. I'm a new VM customer, so didn't get the dubious honour of owning a V+. The Samsung basic V box I had (for a week) was plenty bad indeed.

Quote:

I don't see why re-ordering of channels is such an issue, it's not something I've ever felt the need to do.
Good for you, but I have and feel aggravated that such a basic user feature could not be present. For example, I don't feel I need BBC One and BBC One HD to be shown, but feel I'm entitled to have BBC One HD shown before BBC Two in my list (matching my viewing habits, rather than the opposite)

Quote:

I'm sure the ethernet ports will be enabled as the Premier boxes in the US can stream recordings to other boxes or you can copy content. Everything is already in the code and you can see clues in some of the system info pages. There's no reason for VM not to implement it.
I may be wrong, but isn't that a feature already available on vanilla TiVo S3? If so, it looks like VM disallowed it rather than not implement it... Which begs the question: why and why would they start allowing it?

clinteastman 24-02-2011 18:48

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmuk (Post 35181412)
Fully aware of how forums work thanks.

At no stage during the self proclaimed "rant" did he question the post he was replying to - he was complaining that a negative post was putting a downer on him wanting one. While he gave his permission for an opposing opinion (glad he had his permission) he felt he was called an idiot because someone posted negative comment about it.

And to quote the post I was talking about (with the changing of V+ with Tivo)...

You can't claim an opinion to be narrow minded while at the same time demonstrating the same narrow minded position, well you can but your look an idiot.

Will add the obligatory smilies to demonstrate jesting ;) :D - am just not sure which one to use.

It's all very good to post a quote yet change the content but it still stands that he was saying that his V+ is fine and the majority of people on VM and I said that that was narrow minded because he was making presumptions on his own experience and not considering other peoples.

spiderplant 24-02-2011 18:56

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35181323)
That is very good compared with the V HD box, as I guess the hard drive would be running all the time in the TiVo.:D

I suspect the real figure on the V-HD is a lot lower than 18W. That will be absolute worst case with maximum load on the USB, display at full brightness, etc.

clinteastman 24-02-2011 18:59

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181445)
I don't doubt that. I'm a new VM customer, so didn't get the dubious honour of owning a V+. The Samsung basic V box I had (for a week) was plenty bad indeed.

Your a very lucky man! ;) If your new were you an S1 owner?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181445)
Good for you, but I have and feel aggravated that such a basic user feature could not be present. For example, I don't feel I need BBC One and BBC One HD to be shown, but feel I'm entitled to have BBC One HD shown before BBC Two in my list (matching my viewing habits, rather than the opposite)

I'm with you there, although I might be wrong but isn't there an EPG reshuffle coming?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wabiloo (Post 35181445)
I may be wrong, but isn't that a feature already available on vanilla TiVo S3? If so, it looks like VM disallowed it rather than not implement it... Which begs the question: why and why would they start allowing it?

It could be down to the rights holders, they have said they will enable it though... I think.

Cozzy 24-02-2011 19:18

Re: TiVo
 
too many questions and not enough answers ...

lots of peeps hoping for certain features but no known intention to implement by VM or not
Lots of peeps expecting whats available on the US tivo to be on the VM tivo as standard but either isnt working or no known implementation of it by VM
lots expecting the ethernet port to allow streaming but no one knows if that will or wont happen
parts of the GUI has been worked on and improved over an S1 tivo and some areas of the GUI are still the old S1 tivo screens (or extremely similar) and no word of intention from VM or is it staying as is ... anybodys guess

I can actually understand some people saying or calling it a beta with so many things that are either unfinished or implementation unannounced ... asking/expecting customers to pay for a half finished product is somewhat risky if they then dont get the things they wanted implemented

cant wait for that phone call just so i can say no thanks not interested in a product that is not fully working

clinteastman 24-02-2011 19:26

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35181466)
I can actually understand some people saying or calling it a beta with so many things that are either unfinished or implementation unannounced ... asking/expecting customers to pay for a half finished product is somewhat risky if they then dont get the things they wanted implemented

cant wait for that phone call just so i can say no thanks not interested in a product that is not fully working

I suppose I'm quite odd, I have been a beta tester for many years (started with Win 95) and really enjoy it, I'm almost sad when said products hit RTM.

Stephen 24-02-2011 19:34

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35181466)
too many questions and not enough answers ...

lots of peeps hoping for certain features but no known intention to implement by VM or not
Lots of peeps expecting whats available on the US tivo to be on the VM tivo as standard but either isnt working or no known implementation of it by VM
lots expecting the ethernet port to allow streaming but no one knows if that will or wont happen
parts of the GUI has been worked on and improved over an S1 tivo and some areas of the GUI are still the old S1 tivo screens (or extremely similar) and no word of intention from VM or is it staying as is ... anybodys guess

I can actually understand some people saying or calling it a beta with so many things that are either unfinished or implementation unannounced ... asking/expecting customers to pay for a half finished product is somewhat risky if they then dont get the things they wanted implemented

cant wait for that phone call just so i can say no thanks not interested in a product that is not fully working

VM will enable the ethernet and streaming round the house but they won't be doing that till after the main service is running fully. Focus on the basics before going all out.

If TiVo have no plans to change the older SD screens to HD then I don't think VM will be able to convince them otherwise.

Parlyboy 24-02-2011 20:34

Re: TiVo
 
Interesting set of recent posts regarding the pro's and con's of TIVO but I notice that no one has mentioned one of the major attractions, for me at least, the 1TB drive.

Yes V+ is decent and will do more or less what TIVO does as a basic PVR. On their own the apps and additional software features of TIVO aren't worth £149 BUT the extra 920Gb of space over a V+ box must be worth considering. Yes you could buy a 1TB hard drive and upgrade the V+, but you'd be invalidating your warranty and you still be paying at best £60-ish for the hard drive itself.

So to me the software on its own isn't worth £149 and the extra space on the hard drive on its own isn't worth £149 but the combination of the two and the generally positive (not unanimous of course) reaction to the first release of TIVO makes this a decent and worthwhile upgrade for me.

I'll make up my own mind regarding the quality of the product once I have TIVO but thanks to those who have shared their views both positive and negative.

PB

borrissey 24-02-2011 20:38

Re: TiVo
 
Had one of my SA V+ boxes changed today was faulty really noisy and kept rebooting. Replaced with a Samsung so I'm happy now then other SA V+ box will to replaced with TIVO when I get mine.

I asked VM engineer about the TIVO boxes he told me to wait 6 months before getting one cause of teething problems etc. But said it will all be updated via software updates, not a new box or whatever. So I think i'll get one near launch, going on that. Just have to put up with a few teething problems, I've put up with the SA V+ boxes so I should be ok.

He's got a TIVO box said it's rubbish at the moment loads of problems, stopping recording programmes couple of minutes before they end, turning channels over on it's own etc. He said he didn't do why they just didn't keep the current boxes and just put bigger HDDs in them.

Zing 24-02-2011 20:40

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parlyboy (Post 35181514)
Interesting set of recent posts regarding the pro's and con's of TIVO but I notice that no one has mentioned one of the major attractions, for me at least, the 1TB drive.

Yes V+ is decent and will do more or less what TIVO does as a basic PVR. On their own the apps and additional software features of TIVO aren't worth £149 BUT the extra 920Gb of space over a V+ box must be worth considering. Yes you could buy a 1TB hard drive and upgrade the V+, but you'd be invalidating your warranty and you still be paying at best £60-ish for the hard drive itself.
So to me the software on its own isn't worth £149 and the extra space on the hard drive on its own isn't worth £149 but the combination of the two and the generally positive (not unanimous of course) reaction to the first release of TIVO makes this a decent and worthwhile upgrade for me.

I'll make up my own mind regarding the quality of the product once I have TIVO but thanks to those who have shared their views both positive and negative.

PB


Do the newer V+ drives take Sata or IDE hard drives? I know the older V+ boxes were IDE.
Think you will struggle to find large capacity IDE drives and a 1tb sata can be got for less than 40 notes

Also V+ boxes are never yours so really at a push you could be causing criminal damage lol . Didnt think there was a warranty as they break VM replace

mhatter67 24-02-2011 20:54

Re: TiVo
 
Apolgies if this question is been answered 15 pages ago but the issues of having to watch your recordings while being copied off, will this ever be resolved or is that it?

PS WE NEED A STICKY FAQ FOR TIVO

Cozzy 24-02-2011 21:04

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35181523)
Apolgies if this question is been answered 15 pages ago but the issues of having to watch your recordings while being copied off, will this ever be resolved or is that it?

PS WE NEED A STICKY FAQ FOR TIVO

i think this is another of the functions that has no official answer yet .... suggestion was its a low priority so unlikely to happen within weeks or first few months ... of course VM could drop this completely just as easily but no one but they know the answer

deal-breaker or not is down to personal preference like most missing/broken/not implemented functions at the moment

devilincarnate 24-02-2011 21:13

Re: TiVo
 
Can i just say can we all get a grip as we do not know what is going to become active and not. Also the staff are not able to say either so can we all just get a grip and stop this childish bickering. For ffffffffffffffffff sake.

Yes and i am ready for the replies to this and the slating?

pythagoras 24-02-2011 21:16

Re: TiVo
 
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35181534)
Can i just say can we all get a grip as we do not know what is going to become active and not. Also the staff are not able to say either so can we all just get a grip and stop this childish bickering. For ffffffffffffffffff sake.

Yes and i am ready for the replies to this and the slating?

I'll start with the slating;)

mhatter67 24-02-2011 21:18

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35181534)
Can i just say can we all get a grip as we do not know what is going to become active and not. Also the staff are not able to say either so can we all just get a grip and stop this childish bickering. For ffffffffffffffffff sake.

Yes and i am ready for the replies to this and the slating?

Like me had a bad day at work today:erm:

devilincarnate 24-02-2011 21:20

Re: TiVo
 
Yes to both of the above:D:D:D:D:D

mattboothers 24-02-2011 21:56

Re: TiVo
 
Hi, This is to Digital Fanatic or anyone who can help out.

I got a phone call tonight while watching football. It was automated but I only heard it talk about delivery.

I entered the prize draw for the free TiVO and chose them to phone me up in the evening. My question is that will that have been virgin media.

I also ordered reciner sofas from Argos before and it could have been them but Im worried that me not saying nowt to them because I couldnt hear them will take me out of the TiVO draw.

devilincarnate 24-02-2011 22:03

Re: TiVo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35181576)
Hi, This is to Digital Fanatic or anyone who can help out.

I got a phone call tonight while watching football. It was automated but I only heard it talk about delivery.

I entered the prize draw for the free TiVO and chose them to phone me up in the evening. My question is that will that have been virgin media.

I also ordered reciner sofas from Argos before and it could have been them but Im worried that me not saying nowt to them because I couldnt hear them will take me out of the TiVO draw.

Check the number ( if left ) on whocalledme

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