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Tezcatlipoca 24-01-2007 00:53

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34203050)
Why is it we can talk about torrents and not chipping NTL boxes? Surely the more and more people use torrents, the less need for paying for say Sky 1.
I used to rem,ember the days when we'd go through, say all Summer, waiting for a new series to start in the Autumn. There was a buzz and expectation between series, and now all its all gone. I was watching the next season of CSI Miami as soon as the credits were going up on the last episode not so long ago, back in teh good old days Id have waited till summer for it to restart.

:notopic:


Chipping ntl boxes.... illegal, theft of ntl services. No discussion.

Torrents of TV shows, movies, albums, whatever... illegal, & copyright theft. So no discussion of torrent names & where to obtain them, no linking to torrent files or torrent sites. Etc.


However, if people want to talk about a TV show......



Taking my "Mod Hat" off briefly, this is my personal opinion on the subject:


Yes, fine, downloading TV shows is copyright theft.

However, I believe that morally there isn't anything wrong with it, in some instances (OK, this won't stand up in court, but...) for the following reasons:


Downloading a movie - copyright theft. Shouldn't be done. The studio/distributor lose revenue due to you downloading a movie rather than paying for a cinema ticket or a DVD.

Downloading a CD - copyright theft. Shouldn't be done. The artist/label lose revenue due to you downloading a CD (or track) rather than paying for a CD album or single or legal download.


Yet for TV....

I pay my TV license. I pay my Sky TV subscription.

So if, for example, I wanted to download a TV show after US broadcast, which would end up being on TV in the UK later on (perhaps, for the sake of example, BSG on Sky 1, or Prison Break on Five), where is the actual real theft or loss of revenue compared to downloading something like a movie?

The networks wouldn't lose out - they're not losing ad revenue (as I wouldn't watch it in the US anyway), the UK networks have my money already, & some of my money to the UK networks goes to the US networks to buy the UK rights.

Besides, if the shows were actually shown here closer to their US broadcast, then fewer people would download, as there wouldn't be such a long wait.

It's not too bad now for some things... e.g. Sky are very close behind the US with 24 season 6, & actually ahead of the US for the second halves of the current Stargate SG-1 & Atlantis seasons (10 & 3 respectively). Although we're still behind for BSG & Prison Break, & Rome.



As for method of download.... while P2P such as BitTorrent does, by its nature, mean that you're uploading too at the same time, & so providing other people with what you're downloading, there are other methods, which do not involve using P2P, & so avoid uploading & sharing.



Also......while it's nice to see something early, instead of waiting several months, it's still even nicer to then actually own it. I bought the Rome season 1 DVD box set, the BSG DVD box sets, etc. etc.



Anyway............ this is now very off topic, so back to discussing the excellent Prison Break.... ;) :)

[if anyone wants to carry on discussing this, rather than Prison Break, then please do so in a new & dedicated thread]

NoKnowledge 24-01-2007 03:36

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Just one 'off topic' question - what is BSG?

Mr_love_monkey 24-01-2007 07:10

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34204658)
Just one 'off topic' question - what is BSG?

BattleStar Gallactica (I think)

Paul 24-01-2007 10:33

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Yep, Battlestar.

Just watch Prison Break Ep 2/14 - and I agree it was definitely good.

Halcyon 24-01-2007 10:43

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Excelelnt episode 2 !
I like how each of them are now on their own missions.
Great TV :tu:

Nikesh 24-01-2007 15:15

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Thanks Matt D for your post.

Prison Break Episode 2 was wicked!!!

Tezcatlipoca 25-01-2007 01:04

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34204658)
Just one 'off topic' question - what is BSG?

Quick OT reply.......

BSG = Battlestar Galactica

(No, not the cheesy old one from the 70s, with the guy from Bonanza, this is the new & improved one.)

A "re-imagining" based on the original series.

And far, far, superior to the original.

Critically acclaimed, loved by fans, a joy to watch.

It is the best SciFi series...better than the Treks, B5, Stargate, etc.

And, not only is it the best SciFi show, it is also possibly *the best* thing on TV at the moment IMO...drama, action, adventure. It surpasses 24, Lost, & even the excellent Prison Break. The only other show I hold in as high regard at the moment is Rome. [BSG & Rome > Prison Break > 24 > Lost ]

Even people who don't normally like SF should watch BSG...it's so much more than just a "science fiction" series.

There's been: a 3 hour pilot (miniseries of 2 x 1 1/2 hour parts), a 13 episode 1st season, a 20 episode 2nd season, 10 "webisodes" ("Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance") bridging the gap between s2 & s3, and a 3rd season currently up to episode 4 (UK) & episode 12 (US).

Have some links:

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles...e-imagining%29
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=19512
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=32010
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=40414



Anyway. Wasn't so quick - bit carried away there :erm:


Back to Prison Break..........


Season 2, Episode 14

Spoiler: 
Oh dear! They're a bit screwed now, surely, with Steadman dead. And the cops outside... I wonder what Mahone is going to do, will he really go after Kellerman as ordered, or will he track down Mr Kim, seeing as he's already disposed of Kim's henchman. And what of Sarah? And how's Bellick gonna survive the night...Great stuff!

Nikesh 29-01-2007 17:13

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
So, who's ready to watch Prison Break tonight then? ;)

Halcyon 29-01-2007 17:41

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Thanks for reminding me, I'm looking frward to it.

Tezcatlipoca 31-01-2007 22:50

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
2/15


Spoiler: 
Whoah!

The brothers were lucky to get out of that one, & now seem to have a bit of a plan re. Sara's info, but will Kellerman naively fall for the President's BS & double cross them?

And they still need to meet up with Sara & find what the key is for. And I doubt she'd be happy to see Kellerman...

Pity it didn't show more of the Bellick storyline. And there wasn't any TeaBag at all this week - will he kill his hostages? Will he hold on to the money?

Hah, & I loved Haywire's raft & map!

Damien 01-02-2007 16:07

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34210601)
2/15


Spoiler: 
Whoah!

The brothers were lucky to get out of that one, & now seem to have a bit of a plan re. Sara's info, but will Kellerman naively fall for the President's BS & double cross them?

And they still need to meet up with Sara & find what the key is for. And I doubt she'd be happy to see Kellerman...

Pity it didn't show more of the Bellick storyline. And there wasn't any TeaBag at all this week - will he kill his hostages? Will he hold on to the money?

Hah, & I loved Haywire's raft & map!

Spoiler: 
They seem to go inbetween the other prisoners, one week its a couple, the next week its the other couple. The main storyline & the key should wrap up at the end of this season or at least offer a major progression. Do not want this is become another Lost type program where it stands still and twists every few eposides

Nikesh 05-02-2007 20:23

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Prison Break tonight! Been waiting all week for this! :D

Nikesh 06-02-2007 21:58

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Anyone watch it yesterday? Suspense is really building up now. :D

Tezcatlipoca 07-02-2007 00:36

Re: Prison Break Season 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikesh (Post 34214711)
Anyone watch it yesterday? Suspense is really building up now. :D


Spoiler: 
Yep. Very good. Kellerman must realise now that he can't ever go back, so should stick with helping the brother's hopefully. I feel sorry for Haywire.


Oh, & Bellick.... his "Brad Bellick, FBI" scene where he was trying out lines make me chuckle.

Nikesh 12-02-2007 21:59

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It's about to start guys!!!! :D


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