Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Banning England shirts and flags on engineers and their vans is a very good thing IMO. I'm Welsh and certainly would find that intimidating, especially with the St George's flag being used by the BNP.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Well, in my opinion, you've over-reacted to the company saying that you can't put flags on the vans :shrug:

If you want to get down to basics, then Gaz is right - anything extra on a car / van will affect fuel consumption, which affects costs. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean that it's not right.

So? They can still look rubbish when they're covered in all the dirt and spray that can get kicked up from the road.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Thing is by waving the st george's flag at occassions such sporting events for example, you are in fact reclaiming it from the association with the BNP. If I saw a van driven around with a st georges flag partially obscuring an NTL logo (which are also prominent on the back of vans are they not?) the last thing I'd think is that the BNP are cruising the streets for some 'p**i bashing'.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

The shirts I can understand but I really don't see the harm in the flags

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Don't worry about it mate, I didn't mean a word of it - I just wanted to see who the first person would be who thought I actually meant it :D

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

That's fine they had certain restrictions.

What I was saying is if there are no restrictions normally, then to impose a ban specfically for the World Cup would be unreasonable

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Thankyou for your opinion of my sanity, perhaps you would like to point me to any references which show where increased wind resistance doesn't cause increased fuel consumption, in order to substantiate that opinion? ;)


As I said, a point you seem to have ignored, I have no problem with people exercising a right to fly a flag in their private car, but I don't see why their employer should pay increased fuel costs for similar use of a company vehicle. Should the employers be prepared to condone it, then I don't have a problem with that, either, I just think as it is their money, they have the right to spend it as they see fit...

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Trust me weeman - we know all about your sanity :PP:

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I am sorry I started this thread! Had I known what a bunch of sour faced old gits there was here I would have never started it


Homealone. Quote me the differance in fuel consuption for a van with flags and one with out!!! I would be very interested to see the results, no doubt some sado has done the research :) Pretty Please

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Sssshhh ;) - you might, but I was fooling everyone else, up till then :p: :D

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Nobody here's sour faced (and I'm not that old ;) ) - we just happen to disagree with you on this topic...

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

We need a 'sour face old git' smiley............

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

no denial of being gits though!

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Hey, there's no way I'd get away with denying that one :disturbd:

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Why do you disbelieve the concept that increased drag increases fuel consumption??

I'm not able to quantify it, but articles like this

http://www.jamjar.com/content/aboutu...ess160604.aspx

Mention that closing windows & not flying flags are one way to reduce fuel consumption.

The effect doesn't have to be massive on an individual van basis, but remember this thread is about running a fleet of vehicles - the cumulative effect of even small increases in fuel useage per van will add up across multiple vehicles. In my opinion this is a preventable cost I believe NTL are justified in preventing.