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I am well aware of nildram's strengths I have used them in the past, I like their attitude to power users and their communication. Also have a friend with them now and he is happy with his service. Nice to see that your experience is the same also.

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Well it seems BT are actually conceding there are problems, and not taking a flood of new MAX orders until the existing problems get sorted.

A Plusnet team leader posted this a few hours ago. Makes interesting reading.

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thats very good to have the decency to admit and halt orders.

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everyone I know speaks highly of nildram.

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I have been with Nildram, certainly one of the best imo.

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They tried to but the government of the time refused to allow them to do this so that the satellite and more specifically cable companies could compete.

They are now rebuilding the thing in full from the inside out though, starting at the core.

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And not before time.

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As James Henry is somewhat of an authority on the subject of ADSL, I would like your thoughts on this recent thread over on adslguide ? And anyone elses thoughts.

IMO a very suspect way of dealing with overcrowded exchanges, at the expense of residential customers.

No change there then ! :rolleyes:

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BT traffic shape at the ATM level as a rule to share the bandwidth out and avoid generating loads of congestion notification messages.

Nothing new there really :)

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there is a interesting thread at zen forum on adslguide where irocially the shaping thats supposed to prioritise office custoemrs actually makes the residental service superior, he had data from numerous exchanges and numerous isps that office adsl max speeds were roughly half residental max speeds.

Shaping just seems to make things worse overall, nothing beats simply buying more bandwidth and making sure there is enough in the first place. BT shaping at ATM level means every adsl max product is effectively traffic shaped?

Is legacy ipstream shaped in this manner?

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Yep it's done on the ATM switches in exchanges not on the DSLAMs / MSANs.

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hmm am I right this is simply to stop someone say downloading via the usual 1million threads on torrents getting more bandwidth then someone downloading a file one thread http download?

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Will the acquisition of an LLU product eliminate this traffic shaping ?

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it doesnt garantuee it, its dependent on the LLU isp you pick, to my knowledge both bulldog and be LLU would avoid it.

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Cheers !


So how are we supposed to know which ones do, and which ones don't ?

Do you have a source we can look up this information ?