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The outsourcing debate is one that has run for ages. The biggest annoyance with it is it has proved to be the biggest problem, but they are still talking about it.

London Network Tech's. were outsourced years ago, then 2 years ago it was all brought back in house. Why I hear you ask, simple. They found that the Network in London was in a shambolic state and that they needed to spend 10 million on repairs and refits to bring it back to a reasonable standard.

They did a similar exercise a few years ago. They went to turf working in all other areas after it failed in monumental style in London. I know my old manager was talking to his counterpart in London and he was told "Turf work will kill the engineers". Didn't make a blind bit of difference for NTL, they went through with the turf work. How long did it last? 9 months total before they went back to the old way.

It's amazing that things are tried in other areas and found to fail in a spectacular way, but they STILL try it out in other areas.

NTL learn from past mistakes, Outsourcing is doomed to fail!!!

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You have it spot on!

I never had any problems with Tully, he is a professional. He was my boss when I left but he wasn't the reason I left

The reason was the way ntl treated people, and most of the poor treatment was by human resources themselves.

Re: Restructure anyone?
 

Regarding outsourcing in a few companies I have worked for and where my sister works it does actually cost the company more but they do it more to make it look like they cutting jobs and to prevent a employee ran environment.

Workplaces dominated by agency staff tend to have less rights and less ways to appeal decisions as well as less favourable sick leave procedures. Apperently in the 70s when strikes were common agencies were very few and in the 80s they boomed when the strikes fell like a stone.

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Can't really strike when your self employed!!
F*%k 'em, if they outsource me I will behave like a contractor................
run jumpers over the top, bust locks of cab doors, leave subs with no service (in my case thats 50 subs upwards :)!!! )
and basicly, if I'm not TOLD to do it, I wont!!!!!:Yikes: