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papa smurf 09-05-2026 20:11

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36215171)
I still think part of the problem is that no one is honest about the challenges the country faces and the trade-offs that need to be made. It's easy for people to be cynical about politics and believe populist policies from the Greens and Reform if they think there are easy ways to fix the problems in the country that successive governments have just decided not to do.

The lack of real growth since 2008 is killing us.




if the bone idle got jobs instead of handouts things might change

Mr K 09-05-2026 20:22

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215172)
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if the bone idle got jobs instead of handouts things might change

Ageing population, triple lock, the young increasingly disengaged from a country stacked against them.

Plus the 2016 suicide note at the ballot box. The same mugs are falling for the same guy that sold them that. As much as they want to blame politicians, there's nobidy to blame but themselves.Thats why the country is screwed. RIP the UK.

papa smurf 09-05-2026 20:38

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Originally Posted by Mr K;36215173[B
]Ageing population, triple lock[/B], the young increasingly disengaged from a country stacked against them.

Plus the 2016 suicide note at the ballot box. The same mugs are falling for the same guy that sold them that. As much as they want to blame politicians, there's nobidy to blame but themselves.Thats why the country is screwed. RIP the UK.

i see you're still envious of pensioners,and still sour about brexit.

Paul 09-05-2026 20:46

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215174)
i see you're still envious of pensioners,and still sour about brexit.

Yep, that green streak is still showing, next to the grapes.

Damien 09-05-2026 21:37

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You can advocate for the triple-lock. I would keep it until at least our pensions match those of some European countries, but you would have to pay for it. If it keeps increasing beyond the growth needed to pay for it, then it will take up an increasing percentage of our budget.

Carth 10-05-2026 00:04

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The use of AI is growing nicely, remind me again how much tax and N.I. that pays, and whether the business 'employing' it pays a contribution :erm:

Paul 10-05-2026 02:19

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215181)
The use of AI is growing nicely, remind me again how much tax and N.I. that pays, and whether the business 'employing' it pays a contribution :erm:

VAT on all the electric used I guess, not much else.

Itshim 10-05-2026 09:04

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Do love a luddite

Carth 10-05-2026 11:07

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Nothing wrong with inventing things and improving them over the years, it's the future problems farther down the line that cause issues we don't see at the time.

Take the Internal Combustion Engine, wow what a boon to mankind that's been since it appeared . . . and is now apparently killing the planet :spin:

papa smurf 10-05-2026 11:16

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this is interesting

Google developers significantly misstate carbon emissions of proposed UK datacentres
Emissions understated by factor of five in Essex plans for tech giant, while Greystoke’s Lincolnshire plans show similar error


https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...uk-datacentres

Carth 10-05-2026 11:38

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I'm not too fussed about 'emissions' produced - especially when numerous volcanoes are throwing tons of crap into the atmosphere all year round - but I am bothered about the Electricity and Water needed to keep the places operational. I wonder if the 'plans' include a roof covered with solar panels LOL

Hugh 10-05-2026 12:43

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215197)
I'm not too fussed about 'emissions' produced - especially when numerous volcanoes are throwing tons of crap into the atmosphere all year round - but I am bothered about the Electricity and Water needed to keep the places operational. I wonder if the 'plans' include a roof covered with solar panels LOL

Interesting viewpoint - that’s like not minding your neighbourhood being flooded because the tidal flow floods estuaries all the time… :confused:

Sephiroth 10-05-2026 14:16

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215198)
Interesting viewpoint - that’s like not minding your neighbourhood being flooded because the tidal flow floods estuaries all the time… :confused:

Your analogy is not valid. Emissions are not relevant to Carth's point at neighbourhood level; maybe at country level.

He's absolutely right. Climate change happens all the time and runs in cycles of several thousand years and emissions have brought the current cycle forward by a couple of hundred years or so.

Hugh 10-05-2026 14:58

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215200)
Your analogy is not valid. Emissions are not relevant to Carth's point at neighbourhood level; maybe at country level.

He's absolutely right. Climate change happens all the time and runs in cycles of several thousand years and emissions have brought the current cycle forward by a couple of hundred years or so.

From another thread today…

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215191)
I tend to trust scientists rather than politicians…

Especially when the politicians are receiving funding from fossil fuel and bitcoin* companies…

Sephiroth 10-05-2026 15:04

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215202)
From another thread today…



Especially when the politicians are receiving funding from fossil fuel and bitcoin* companies…

Scientists can and do tell us the square root of the effects of climate change. Nothing wrong with that. I'm not denying climate change.

But your analogy was wrong. You could have thought harder about it.


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