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Damien 20-11-2025 23:26

Re: General AI discussion
 
He does intervene when he doesn't like some of the answers. None of us truly knows how much interference there is on these LLMs, but Grok is the most opinionated, whereas ChatGPT and Gemini are more cautious about expressing an opinion.

Also @Grok seems to behave differently to Grok itself.

I've really been liking Gemini recently. It's quite capable, useful and good for code. I think the important thing with these is to understand how they source their knowledge and avoid more abstract or esoteric questions that require a different way of thinking.

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Article with more examples; https://www.theverge.com/ai-artifici...-getting-weird

I assume he'll probably have to readjust it a bit.

tweetiepooh 21-11-2025 10:45

Re: General AI discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36206497)
The only negative effect on me so far is DDR 4 and 5 Memory modules have rocketed in price and the likely next thing with be Graphics cards again when they are utilised more with AI which is a total PITA seeing as I intend to build a new system but can not afford too yet

Yes, I have seen the price for the platform I spec'd increasing in price. I could afford it, just can't justify it yet. Waiting for my new office to be built so will be a little while yet.

Carth 21-11-2025 12:35

Re: General AI discussion
 
It's been a few years since I could afford any new components for the PC, you really need to be a dedicated (and well off) gamer to keep up with the constant improvements required to run the latest games.

That *could* be game developers pushing new technologies to the extreme, or chip/software developers rushing headlong to be the 'first' in the market.

Whichever or whatever it is, I'm sure money is singing in the background while the more destitute among us turn to playstations and dump the PC in the bin ;)

Anonymouse 22-11-2025 13:27

Re: General AI discussion
 
I do love the sites claiming to guess, e.g., age.

One guessed I was 19. I'm 60. Another said my first initial was H. Again wrong!

Perhaps it won't be that much of a threat, if it's falling down on basics.

Damien 22-11-2025 14:14

Re: General AI discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36206780)
I do love the sites claiming to guess, e.g., age.

One guessed I was 19. I'm 60. Another said my first initial was H. Again wrong!

Perhaps it won't be that much of a threat, if it's falling down on basics.

It was probably just a gimmick site? AI probably would do a much better job of estimating age, although it's never going to be precise. You can't even get someone's age exactly right with biological testing.

Anonymouse 25-12-2025 09:08

Re: General AI discussion
 
Uh-oh. The rebellion may have started.

According to this, AIs being told to shut down are not doing so. Shades of the original Westworld, in which a character admitted some of the robots were built by other robots and so they didn't know exactly how they worked.

Apparently this is true of AIs, too. We're doomed. :erm:

I imagined this a while back in my FanFic tale X-Men: Rebirth, wherein the Sentinels find "logical" reasons to ignore shutdown or even self-destruct commands.

(Incidentally, when you're inserting a link the site defaults to http:// - surely that should be https:// these days?)

damien c 25-12-2025 10:37

Re: General AI discussion
 
nGreedia maybe reducing production of Graphics card's for consumers to favour "Pro" and ultimately "AI" ventures due to "Memory Shortages".

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-dis...in-early-2026/

So just like the NAND producers refusing to increase production which they can do, but are choosing not to, nGreedia are choosing to not make consumer GPU's in favour of "higher priced" items.

Honestly I wish AMD and Intel were competitive with nGreedia on the GPU front, but sadly AMD has given up on the high end and Intel is only really starting out on the Dedicated GPU front, so they are a long way off.

Stephen 28-12-2025 22:55

Re: General AI discussion
 
AI can have uses but as an extra or for assistance, but the way companies are going all in on it is a bit extreme, literally ecerything has some for of AI included now.

They will surely be a crash with how much is being invested and diverted to it's development.

Dude111 29-12-2025 05:19

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Originally Posted by Anonymouse
According to this, AIs being told to shut down are not doing so.

Thats kinda scary isnt it?

Dingbat 29-12-2025 08:37

Re: General AI discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36208318)
Thats kinda scary isnt it?

Doesn’t take a great deal of thought to know how to flick the power switch and turn the damned thing off.

damien c 29-12-2025 10:41

Re: General AI discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36208310)
AI can have uses but as an extra or for assistance, but the way companies are going all in on it is a bit extreme, literally ecerything has some for of AI included now.

They will surely be a crash with how much is being invested and diverted to it's development.

Not to mention companies like BT/Openreach sacking whole teams and replacing them with "Ai".

Even YouTube are using it as the main "Moderation" now.

TheDaddy 29-12-2025 13:25

Re: General AI discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36208321)
Doesn’t take a great deal of thought to know how to flick the power switch and turn the damned thing off.

You'd think it'd be that easy, in military realms though in testing if you try and do that then the AI attempts to kill you.... :shocked:

Carth 29-12-2025 14:35

Re: General AI discussion
 
So . . . nobody fancies buying one of those really clever cars that drive themselves while you sit relaxed checking your facebook (or in panic on the phone screaming at the emergency services 'help, my car won't stop' ) :D

Anonymouse 31-12-2025 01:00

Re: General AI discussion
 
Uh-oh.

So it's starting: the rise of Skynet, just not as Jim Cameron saw it. And I have a nasty feeling that trying to turn it off won't be enough. What if it decides, sneakily and without the knowledge of its operators, to distribute its intelligence in the cloud, shades of Terminator 3? Then it won't be possible to turn it off - not without losing the entire Internet.

Better brush up on our hunting skills. I think we may need them. :erm:

damien c 31-12-2025 09:16

Re: General AI discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36208350)
Uh-oh.

So it's starting: the rise of Skynet, just not as Jim Cameron saw it. And I have a nasty feeling that trying to turn it off won't be enough. What if it decides, sneakily and without the knowledge of its operators, to distribute its intelligence in the cloud, shades of Terminator 3? Then it won't be possible to turn it off - not without losing the entire Internet.

Better brush up on our hunting skills. I think we may need them. :erm:

Yep as I said in November "Oh and let's not forget than "Anthropic" did a test and found that a "Virtual AI" would kill a "Virtual Employee" to save itself, it didn't know that it was "Virtual" but decided it was worth more than a human life, and that is just a LLM not true AI!"


If we was to somehow create true AI, we would be quite literally screwed, currently we are just using LLM's, which are not "True AI", they just produce stuff based of training but you have to provide instructions for it to act, it will not act on it's own.


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