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do i need to explain what happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight

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As with everything, there has to be a balance, the costs involved versus the chance of something happening. A risk assessment as it were.

You could now put an armed soldier in every train carriage, on every bus, every motorway service station, or wherever you think there is *potential* for an incident. You can soon go over the top and achieve nothing but higher prices/costs to the general public.

Consider local councils spending £1.5 million on snow clearance initiatives . . but then it doesn't snow that year. Obviously that's an acceptable risk, whereas guards on every street corner isn't.

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Apparently its down to just one person, not two.

[ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cm2zvjx1z14t ]

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So far, this is one incident on a train. There must be thousands and thousands of train routes run each day, with tens of thousands of journeys taken on them. I don't think we're at the point where we need to put arm guards on every train or, as someone suggested on the news this morning, airport-style security to get on them.

We cannot completely control every public space. If these incidents become more common, then we might need to react, but let's not throw out more freedoms in reaction to the, understandable, fear that one attack generates.

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I hope not, but this incident may well have given certain individuals a new idea to try.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93d...2a277b2e8#post

They are also 'looking at other linked offences'. Social media is saying he did something the day before, albeit it was spreading a lot of rumours on the night of the attack, so we'll see.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93d...5b1c2d791#post

People will have a go at the police, but it's less than 24 hours between attacks, not sure how realistic it is to have caught him before he went up north the next morning.

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I keep wondering whether these sorts of random non-targeted(?) attacks are confined to north of the 36th parallel or perhaps north of the 49th. How many take place south of the 36th parallel? Do they occur there frequently and are just not reported in Europe?
Just doesn't make sense if they are confined to the UK and perhaps Europe.

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The start of a lot of crime and injuries was "Care in the Community".

Closing Mental Hospitals, and releasing the inmates, hoping that they would continue taking their meds and turn up for checks.

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It's just not reported as much here. Think of how many school shootings there are in America. This was just a few days ago: https://6abc.com/post/multiple-victi...sity/18071874/

There are several every year in America now, and it doesn't make national or international news the way Columbine did when they were relatively rare.

We're also just not as engaged with the news out of Africa or South America. Brazil has a very high murder rate.

What makes this so shocking for us is that the UK is actually relatively safe. Violence is not an everyday occurrence that is the backdrop of our lives.

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How many are random non-targeted attacks? It mysteriously doesn't occur evenly across all demographics in the UK.
Things like gang warfare have an identifiable reason. Even if we don't agree with the reason, we know what it is. These sorts of random non-targeted attacks don't have an identifiable reason or maybe they do.

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Not those sort of attacks. If it was then they would've been occurring for centuries.

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This is the truth, many were turfed out with no more than a slip of paper with an address on it and expected to go there for housing, of course after being institutionalised for decades it was doomed to fail. I remember hearing that dozens were found frozen to death every winter for years following the closure of our local hospital and now decades later things haven’t changed, the London Borough I used to live in merged with another to try and mask the horrific number of deaths still happening, people starving to death with cupboards full of food and the like, would've been kinder to have just taken them out the back and shot them.

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This is pretty weird:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93d...03690ed22#post

and

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93d...12bf30874#post

The barber incidents might not be him. But if it is, he was in Peterborough at 19:25 and then in East London in the early hours of Saturday morning before returning to Peterborough by 9:25 Saturday morning.

It's doable, but it's pretty crazy to randomly go from Peterborough to Patoon Dock, East London, overnight in between those two incidents.

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There's a possibility that this individual may be a little unhinged and not behaving to recognised norms

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Yeah, sounds like he was going back and forth between London and Peterborough. The train he stabbed people on was heading back to London. Maybe full on mania or something. :erm:

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I drive past the station on the way to work, it was still roped off by police at 5.45am, very shocking.