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thenry 20-09-2025 22:05
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36203033)
And as Hugh asks, how can you determine someone is Jewish ?

Paul 20-09-2025 23:32
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36203071)
No, Jewish is a race.
The internet in general disagrees, so what's your evidence ?

Sephiroth 20-09-2025 23:54
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Jews cannot be a race. There are Mizrahi Jews (Semitic race); Sephardic & Askenazi Jews (European); Goan Jews (Indian); Ethiopian Jews (African). Probably others too.

Antisemitism, in my observation, is a matter of taste in the sense of disdain. Netanyahu bombs the crap out of Gazans and --> Jews at large (the antisemites say) sympathise with that so let's express that disdain.

Pierre 21-09-2025 23:22
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36203080)
The internet in general disagrees, so what's your evidence ?
Ok, so the internet wins?

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tweetiepooh 22-09-2025 14:21
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Traditionally a Jew is a member of the tribe of Judah but was extended to cover all the tribes of Israel at the Babylonian exile. But the term can be used for a follower of the Jewish faith. Many who are racially Jews do not follow the Jewish faith and there are those who follow the faith who are not racially Jewish.
And the sign to identify Jewish men is found somewhat lower than the nose!

Sephiroth 22-09-2025 14:50
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36203169)
Traditionally a Jew is a member of the tribe of Judah but was extended to cover all the tribes of Israel at the Babylonian exile. But the term can be used for a follower of the Jewish faith. Many who are racially Jews do not follow the Jewish faith and there are those who follow the faith who are not racially Jewish.
And the sign to identify Jewish men is found somewhat lower than the nose!
I don’t think the tribe of Judah can be called a race. They, in common with non-Jews of the area, were/are of the Semitic race. There really is no such thing as “racially Jewish”.

BTW, I know at least 4x Jews who are incognito (unschnickeled)!

Hugh 22-09-2025 15:04
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The UK Court of appeal and House of Lords ruled Jews were an ethnicity under the Race Relations Act 1976 using the test from Mandla v. Dowell Lee, and later under The Equality Act 2010.

Under the Equality Act 2010, under Chapter 1, Protected characteristics, Section 9 (Race)

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9 Race

(1) Race includes—

(a) colour;

(b) nationality;

(c) ethnic or national origins.

(2) In relation to the protected characteristic of race—

(a) a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a person of a particular racial group;

(b) a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons of the same racial group.

(3) A racial group is a group of persons defined by reference to race; and a reference to a person's racial group is a reference to a racial group into which the person falls.

(4) The fact that a racial group comprises two or more distinct racial groups does not prevent it from constituting a particular racial group.

Sephiroth 22-09-2025 15:16
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I didn’t have the legal definition in mind.

Hugh 22-09-2025 15:21
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36203180)
I didn’t have the legal definition in mind.
What definition did you have in mind?

Sephiroth 22-09-2025 15:24
Re: Antisemitism: So it openly starts
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36203183)
What definition did you have in mind?
The old definition (pre-1976) that everyone my age still understands. African, Chinese, Semitic, Caucasian, etc. Common sense stuff.


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